BushDoctoR
Oct 22 2003, 12:56 AM
my light diddnt turn off tonight
luckily(?) my room is not 100% light proof, and i noticed just an hour after 12/12
what could it be??
my light is 250w, my contactor is 10a, and my timer is 13(2)a connected with 6a flex and 5a terminals, all wired properly
i can see the contactor switch inside move but not all the way
any ideas??????
i guess i'll have to get up early tomorrow
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Wilbur Nutsack
Oct 22 2003, 01:18 AM
Anything mechanical sticking?
Is the timer still on the correct time? Perhaps a powercut has put it back a few hours?
Relay still switching all right?
Delta Bravo
Oct 22 2003, 08:59 AM
Sounds like something sticking m8, by the way you don`t need a relay with a 250w. A timer on it`s own will work.
hi bush doctor
what sort of contactor are you using?
i use a relay to switch my fan off so i can inject co2 and ive had to replace it a couple of times , the contacts arced together once and the coil packed up another time this was a surprise considering the low load,of course its not a problem with the gas but i'd be pissed off if i'd gone away and the lights had been on for a few days.
i use a 20amp contactor on the lights , top left in the piccy ,the relay for the fan is below the speed controller is this similar to what you use on your light?
i'm sure if the fan can moose up my relay the inductive load from a 250 could well cause a failure
c f
Themadhippy
Oct 22 2003, 03:46 PM
sounds like a stuck relay,is the relay rated for an inductive (reactive) load?
BushDoctoR
Oct 23 2003, 03:19 PM
the relay says this:
| QUOTE |
SCHRACK MT226230
230v AC 50/60Hz -------------------- 10A/250V AC N.O.5A/400VAC/AC15 |
it worked last night, and again this morning
if the relay is sticking, what does that mean?? do i need a new one???
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Themadhippy
Oct 23 2003, 09:48 PM
| QUOTE |
| if the relay is sticking, what does that mean?? do i need a new |
if theres an unused set of contacts then no,however the relay should be able to handle a 250w lamp,do the contacts look like theve arced?
assuming youve checked the wiring and time settings id look at the switching mechanical of the time clock,the off time peg may have been a bit a loose.best bet is to keep an eye on it,maybe wire in a low wattage lamp outside the grow room as an indictor
Delta Bravo
Oct 24 2003, 08:21 AM
A friend of mine has been running his 250w hps/mh switchable lamp for 8 years with a bog standard pin dial timer and not once has it burnt the contactors out.
Growell told me the same, you don`t need a relay.
BushDoctoR
Oct 27 2003, 10:14 PM
when i flick the swich on the timer, something is definately happening inside the relay, but yet the light is doesnt switch off
its happened twice since i last posted, i cant take this, i thought the relay stops light time failiure
could it be faulty relay??? its only a week or two old
in case your wondering, the timer does work, i even have a spare timer but that will not work on the relay either
PLEASE HELP
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Themadhippy
Oct 28 2003, 12:25 PM
assuming everythings wired correctly id change the relay, a 250w discharge lamp needs a switch contact rated for 1.8-1.9 amps inductive so your time clock may be ok but its a bit close for me personally.
BushDoctoR
Oct 28 2003, 01:26 PM
thanx hippy

i'll run the timer without the relay for now
if it burns the contacts, will that be dangerous??? or will it just break the timer??
Delta Bravo
Oct 28 2003, 02:58 PM
The timer will be fine without a relay FOREVER, providing you have a decent timer (not one that was 2.99 for 3), your wiring is sound and use a surge protector.
Too much load would do the same as it`s done to the relay keeping the contacts open so it won`t turn off. By all means err on the side of caution if you wish by useing a relay and noone would blame you. But it isn`t an absolute must like with 400w and over.
BushDoctoR
Oct 31 2003, 03:52 PM
ive been running the timer without a relay for a couple of days now, no probs yet
nice one delta

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