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The_Preacher
Hey p33ps,

Am just about to havrvest me bud, I hear a lot of stuff about how to cure it but it all seems to be let the bud take ages to dry in a dark place and dont let it get to hot or humid (?), after about 2-3 weeks cut off as much stem as possible and whack em into air tight jars opening the lids every now an then. (how long do i have to do that for?)

Ive also heard about water curing to remove the clorophil and stuff, is this worth it and how do i do it??

Tar for da advice

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Sal



Curing is a very important process its when all the sugars are broken down and chemical things happen inside. Let your bud dry for about 10-14 days then place in an airtight container for about 4 wks the longer you leave it the better it gets

I have just harvested some blueberry haze myself and cos id been so long without a smoke decided to smoke a bit early that was a couple of weeks ago then yesturday i tryed a bit more and there was a difference although the taste wasn,t to bad i intend to leave mine for maybe 2-3 wks more. Being hasty did not do my bud justice and i will have more paitients in future
ubiquity
I read a number of techniques. I have just harvested my 1st grow, and for ease I just cut and inverted the plant, hanging it from its stem in a cupboard to dry out.

I am going to trim and put in airtight containers soon, but just letting it air a little to start with helps.

The_Preacher
Tar for the advice guys, some guy also said to keep it in the pot, for three days in the dark with no water before harvesting.

Ive made the decision to cut her down (my kingdom for a 30x microscope) and for Water Curing (as i understand it) at some point during the curing process I have to put part of the bud in water.

THen osmosis (or something like that) causes all of the chlorophyll to spread out evenly across the bud and water leaving the thc coz its not water soluble.

Is this all just pooh.gif ? Im willin to giv it a go ive just got no idea when during the Curing process i do it?
The_Preacher
hmmmm, i probably should have put this post in harvesting and curing section. Any chance i can get it moved admin??

Edit: tar admin
OMH
I would strongly suggest that the person who told you to put your buds in water to cure them is talking out of their big fat arse mate. pooh.gif

The last thing you want to do is get your buds wet - you are trying to dry them out, and getting them wet is just going to encourage mold and bud rot.

By all means, try it if you really feel you have to, but i reckon you are much better off sticking to the tried and trusted methods employed by the rest of us
George
hey guys ,, I did see a link the other day on water curing, TIS TRUE, and I must admit it does take some believing,, long read and interesting,,, but there is so much stuff in here,, I think it was related to another request for curing methods,, ho hum g
OMH
Got a link mate?

Problem with stuff like this is that, while there is a chance that there may be a method for doing this, if people just dump their buds in water, they are asking for trouble.

If people want to take the risk and try stuff like this, its up to them at the end of the day. Without a fair bit of information, and testimony to back it up though, I certainly won't be dropping any ounces into buckets of water wink.gif

I can sort of see where this is coming from - THC does not dissolve in water (but the crystals can get dislodged and float in it - such as when making bubble hash), and a great deal of chlorophyll does end up in the water when you make bubble hash. There could well be a way of doing this, and I would be interested in reading anything to back this up.

However, I still think that there is a huge risk of mold and bud rot if people dump their buds into water after harvest, and you will almost certainly get a large amount of the trichomes floating around in the water instead of sticking onto the buds.

I shall be sticking to the usual method until I see something to convince me otherwise I think smile.gif
George
hey guys ,,I found this the other day,,,hope it helps ,,good read on curing, g



http://figment20.tripod.com/pages/guides/bigmjgrowguide.html
OMH
I stand corrected smile.gif

They say that the water cure is mostly used with leaves and low quality bud tho, so I sha'nt be doing it with any cola's anytime soon wink.gif

George
lol.gif offmehead ,, i could not quite believe it either,,dump them in water,what!!

and the sweat them in a great pile looked even worse, they just have no respect!!

or wrap them up in sackcloth,and let them sweat,,, I suppose its ok if ,,you have a couple of acres to cut down,,by hand!!,

do you recon you would get bored??


,,this is from a guy that runs down the garden every time it threatnes to rain and cover up my girls with a huge patio brolley,,, not long to go now, sweating on dry weather for another couple of weeks, personally, I think monday is the end of the good weather??

dry weather finished next monday,,,? what do you recon,g

Im quite chuffed with myself ,,that was the first time ,I put a link up,,yeah ,,
The_Preacher
Well im gonna dry it and then give it a go, ill post in 3 weeks with piccys of the ganja im Trashing stoned.gif

Big thanks to you George, for anyone who cba to read the link

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Water Cure

Unlike other curing methods, the water cure is performed after the marijuana is dried. Powder and small pieces are most often used, but the cure also works with whole colas. The material is piled loosely in a glass or ceramic pot which is filled with luke-warm water. (When hot water is used, some of the THC is released in oils, which escape and float to the top of the water.) Within a few hours many of the non-psychoactive water-soluble substances dissolve. An occasional gentle stirring speeds the process. The water is changed and the process repeated. Then the grass is dried again for smoking.

THC is not water-soluble; so it remains on the plant when it is soaked. By eliminating water-soluble substances (pigments, proteins, sugars, and some resins), which may make up 25 percent of the plant material by weight, this cure may increase the concentration of THC by up to a third.

Marijuana cured by this method has a dark, almost black colour, and looks twisted and curled, something like tea leaves. The water cure is frequently used to cure dried fan leaves and poor-quality grass.



Tar again all,

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Nagual
Hi there all,

I have tried water curing myself, following that above technique, which by the way is from Mel Franks book. The result was well odd. After first drying your herb do as it says and place it into a container with luke warm water after a few hours change the water. Then again after a few hours drain it and dry it again. What you will have is a bit of weed that is very dry, hard and crumbly. I hvae not seen any real improvment over dry curing for a few weeks, but this may be just me or my technique.

by the way the link to Mel Franks book is here

Hope that helps a bit


peace
sittingrelaxing
i've never done it,but i remember seeing it on pot night
(time for channel 4 to do another surely) but he just did a bit at a time,
stiring a tablespoon of weed in a glass of water,
then he passed it through a paper coffee filter to remove weed and thc from the water,he then pressed the remaining water out and dried it,and smoked it..
he said it was for a more "trippy" smoke.....

cheers

sr
The_Preacher
I can help thinking, why do you have to wait until it is dry??

If you were to do it when the bud was still full of water you should be able (as far as my knowledge of botany goes) to just place a part of the bud in water, and the the water, and all the chemicals transported in the water should spread out until there is a uniform ammount in the bud and water.

If this works then you mightent loose so many trichromes during water curing unsure.gif
oldtimer1
Virtually no nutrients and no chlorophyll will come out of fresh buds or leaves immersed in water.

With dried buds and leaves immersed in water a little nutrient and chlorophyll will be leached into the water, also some of the aromatics. When dried if it doesn't get mouldy it goes a dark green almost black colour. Its foul to smoke, especially if like me you smoke it neat. We tried every method of curing you could think of years back.

All these water, sweating, heat cures come from methods of curing tobacco. The problem is they all degrade the thc and are not really appropriate for use with cannabis.

The best method I have found, is to dry in an airy, cool, dry, dark place. ie slow drying. Remember the plant tissue is still live when cut, and it does metabolise a little over the first couple of days.

Thc in tricomes of living plants peaks 6 to 10 hrs after the end of light after that it starts to decline.

The things that degrade or inhibit thc are heat, light, air and water. Even after the bud appears totally dry the precursors to thc are still hanging on to H2O molecules, it takes several months for them to separate. Thats why your weed seems more potent after a period of curing.

sr what Wernard was doing on dope night was making a very crude version of ice hash.
sittingrelaxing
cheers ot, i couldn't remember who it was,
when pot night came out where many people smoking "ice hash" ot ????
or is it only the last few years????
i got my bubblebags about 3 years ago,and that was my first encounter with the bubble....


cheers

sr

oldtimer1
That was the first time I saw it. Not much later Mila brought out the first Ice-O-Lator.

Wernard and his bis Positronics was really good, he is a nice man who really cares more about cannabis than money. Typically he was ripped off and made bankrupt.

Its funny but I still prefer the first shake from the zeef to ice hash.
sittingrelaxing
QUOTE (oldtimer1 @ Oct 28 2003, 02:54 PM)


Wernard and his bis Positronics was really good, he is a nice man who really cares more about cannabis than money. Typically he was ripped off and made bankrupt.


everything i've read about wernard says the same thing ot,
i didn't know he invented a new improved football table,until i read nol's book...
and like you say he didn't care about money,just enjoying himself,
it's just a shame people around him took the piss.... furious.gif
and yet he dont seem bitter because of it..
i wish he'd do a book,and for that case ot, i wish you would aswell..... smile.gif
so if you ever get into publishing books ot,put me down for some signed copys... wink.gif

i'd love to interview and have a smoke with you,wernard and hillary black....(what a babe.. blushing.gif ) i'd learn so much about life and cannabis just sitting there listerning....

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Its funny but I still prefer the first shake from the zeef to ice hash.
i think my shake tastes better,but i like the high off the bubble,
but i've only got a cheap hand shaker,and so never had proper first shake...


cheers


sr


Bish
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i wish he'd do a book,and for that case ot, i wish you would aswell


Funny you should mention that SR mate - we were talking about the very same thing tuther day smile.gif

Were your ears buning OT? wink.gif

oldtimer1
No Bish no burning ears.

I have got a really sore throat though, you could say it was burning.

Can I blame that on you?

I’m just a boring old fart who's gathered a bit of moss is all, nothing interesting in that.
Bish
No, nowt to do with me mate - hope it clears up soon smile.gif

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I’m just a boring old fart who's gathered a bit of moss is all, nothing interesting in that


You're too modest wink.gif

oldtimer1
Not modest, true!

But It would be nice if we could blame the common cold and its attendant misery on someone, shame you wouldn't hold your hand up for it lol.gif.
The_Preacher
Big thanks to everyone notworthy.gif i dont think im gonna bother 'de-tasting' my bud using dirty baccy drying methods stoned.gif good ol fashioned ganja curing for me.



bubblegumkid
Hi everyone what ive read on water curing is in a book called, Marijuana growers guide by Mel Frank(good read v indepth). The water cure is done after the bud has dried normaly small bits are done but whole colas can be cured this way. But it discribes the and product as being black and twisted, dont sound to good to me. BGK
DrGreenUK
Hey people

I've heard of people doing this to sucsess. SWIM has bought a presure cooker for the process lol.gif wink1.gif This is old hat stuff people. Makes you buds darker and is said to sweeten them up but looks likes its a load of crap.

Might be handy if you are trying to rush some along or if you are trying to be a dirty fcuker and add some EXTRA ingredients to your finished product ;P
b8MAN
Ah this old one.

I'm smoking some water-cured Powerplant right now.


Pros.

Water curing is easy and doesn't smell. Sudden chops / inspections could benefit from this.

The smell of burning water cured weed doesn't really smell of weed. It doesn't smell nice, but is not instantly identifiable.

It's faster to cure like this and quick dry than air drying alone.

Maintains potency

Very smooth smoke


Cons.

Loss of flavour is loss of personality. It knows all the right words but doesn't deliver them with the energy or vigour to get the part. It's britney spears acting. No spark.

Loses bag appeal. And looking at it under a microscope reveals that the trichomes don't look nearly as healthy as on air dried weed.

Doesn't taste very nice. Almost tobacco-eee


Conclusion.

It's easy to do and does have a use. If you have lots of yield, a small pot of scentless weed can come in handy. But if you want real quality, then its air cure all the way.


B8
grobag
Hi peeps,

Water curing has it's place but not when curing buds to smoke. That should be done in jars as mentioned in the first post.

But...As the link says, it is usually used on lower quality bud and leaf. Some people I've seen do this to make trim nicer to smoke if they have nothing else. Not my bag I'm affraid. Trim and air bud is for making hash and oil from. This is when the water cure comes into it's own. If you are partaking in an Iso wash to make oil, then a water cure is the way to go before hand. By taking out Chlorophyl and other water soluble contams, less is absorbed in the Iso wash for the oil and thus a better quality product is produced.

I'd never do a water wash on weed to smoke but it's the way to go before Iso oil making.

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