So, I went from smoking ~3 joints a day to using the Volcano when I bought it about ~3 weeks ago, I guess I now probably do 6-8 bags a day using 6.5 for 4 vapes of each chamber of weed (so usually two chambers spread over the day).

The reason I made the change was basically lung health and it has made a big difference, the problem is now I need it even cleaner because my training is getting serious now and I can't really be jepodising it with anything.

So my question is this: what's the lowest temperature I can use and still be vaping all the good stuff? And if I take the temp a lot lower would this actually make it better on my lungs at all?

I hate to admit it but it's looking like quitting time soon, and a crop is just about to come in



e2a: I use the fine screen set also.

Probably not much use to you but on a digital one I can still get a hit at around 180C. I'm not sure how long it will take for your lungs to notice the difference now you are using a Volcano but it's not instant.

Could you not eat bud in yogurt or cookies till after your lungs have recovered ?

Well I was never smoking tobacco with the joints Felix, only pure weed so I'm not sure my lungs are that damaged to be honest, and I made the change before they got too bad anyway as a pre-emptive strike. You may be right though. Anyone know what 180C equates to on the non digital dial?

I was thinking of making what's left of my Warlock crop into hash to be honest, that must be a cleaner form surely?

Some of the folks over in the medi forum would be far more knowledgeable than me but if you set fire to anything it's going to give off a whole host of unpleasant chemicals, including benzene and other cancer causing volatiles. Pure bud still gives out tar, just look inside any pipe that's only been used for pure weed so even smoking pure is damaging to your lungs.

I suspect that even vaporising produces some sort of tar, look at the sticky stuff that builds up on the inside of a Volcano bag. Some of that must get deposited in your lungs.

Can't answer whether hash would be cleaner than bud but I've never managed to do bubble in my Volcano, don't think it gets hot enough

The thing is I can't really eat it either, or well, I'd have to find some way of doing it with as little sugar/fat as possible (not like Joolz' canna-butter flackjacks ).

Maybe a mod could move this to the medi forum for me then please?

What sort of training do you do Nausicca ? Just curious

You're talking to the future Middleweight Champion of the world.





At least I can laugh!

Oh boxing , thats a tough one , you sound pretty serious about it though so who knows , good luck
with the training

id say you can put your volcano on about as low as setting 4 to still get a good vape i havnt gone any lower than this but im sure 3.5 would do something but not enough for me.
if its an consolation to the damage youl do to your lungs i had a medical about 6 months ago after using the volcano for about 2 years an not smoking only the odd bong here an there, i had to have a lung test to see how much i can inhale an how well etc.
now bear in mind i do between 4 - 10 volcanoes a day using between 2-5 grams of weed from when i first wake up until i fall asleep every day without fail, so i often find myself with the odd splutter an cough every now an then when i vape so i thought my results wouldnt be that great, better than a smoker tho.
anyways to my surprise the woman that did the test said my lung capacity was one of the highest shes seen at about 6.5 litres especially for my size an my lungs were in very good condition an healthy etc
i dont even bother to work out or keep fit so its not like my lungs get exercised it must jus be all the heavy inhaling an exhaling i do. fuck knows maybe its the thc.
good luck with the boxin tho

Alot of people say they like it around 4 to 5, as it doesn't make you cough, a much finer mist. I always like to pull the bag through my bong for that extra bit of filtration. Good luck, I absolutely love boxing.

When are you fighting Pavlik ?

Haha, never I hope, he will be long gone by the time I get there

Thanks for the advise everyone, I will try the Volcano on a lower setting for a bit, maybe around 5 for a while.

If anyone else has got some advise keep it coming

185C is supposed to be the ideal temperature for vaping

For a start smoking pure weed is more damaging than say smoking a few pinches with a good tobacco (american spirit) and i only seem to enjoy my volcano on about 6 to 6.5.

i am going to try doing it through my bong too after reading this thread...might cool here a piece

I am also in training at the moment (XC Mountain Biking)

i too have switched to my volcano from smoking pure but i still hit it at high temps, the improvment in my lungs is amazing and gets better each week.
I have the digit and ive been experimenting with temps and for me what works is a bag on 170 (if you smoked the whole chamber with about 3 runs on that temp i think you would be nicely high) i then burn one at 185 then the last one is done anywhere between 200-230 depending on how pissed off or unhappy i am.

btw a volc on 230 gives you such bad red eye!

Good luck with your training dude, im currently working on some fitness friendly weed recipes so i shall post as soon as i have hit the jackpot.

SS

Eating canna cakes/food etc shouldent be a issue?
A few slices of cakes wont throw your weight off as long as you keep up the training

boxing! Sounds like quitting time if your serious and have some promise, my dad was a really good boxer, the few times I went with him was the hardest work outs of my life, boxers are the fittest of all athletes.

Just remembered I had this, you might find it handy. Volcano settings, comparing the numbers on the analogue & digi.


(Centigrade) (Fahrenheit)

1 130 266
2 142 288
3 154 309
4 166 331
5 178 352
6 190 374
7 202 396
8 214 417
9 226 439


Tetrahydrocannabinols (155-157C) (311-314.6F)
Cannabinols (185C) (365F)
Cannabidiols (187-190C) (368.6-374F)

I used veg oil [rapeseed], in an experiment and made some vegan brownies. You could swap the molasses for honey.

Rapeseed is actually good for you, it helps reduce cholesterole, and has anti-oxidants. Have a look in the cookbook forum.

Vape on low.

Hey there

If you make a note of the ingredients that you are using it should not be very difficult to work out the number of calories and grams of fat saturated / unsaturated etc etc.

Once you've worked out the nutritional information you should beable to adjust your training diet to compensate.

Like stickybud says, there should be sufficient natural/healty alturnatives to most of the ingredients that you need to activate the canna.

If you did this the difference, I would expect, aught to be negligable...

Either way, best of luck with your training, maybe you shoudl get a 420 logo ion ya shorts

Good luck dude

KK

m8 i just got myself a volcano digi a couple of weeks ago
and this will be handy,
thank you m8

mine is on 4.5 for the mornings and 5.5 in the evening

Yea, 5.5 is about 180oC.

Mine is on 9 always......

I've taken a 'hit' at 3.5, although you'll need to quit the 9's to lower your tolerance for a while.

One thing i noticed was that you could only hit the weed at No. 4 a couple of times. Then, for another hit off the same weed, you need to turn it up. It is almost like distilling off the high at different temperatures.

fuckin 9 mate shit man talk about defeating the oblect of vaping

the reason you need to turn it up is cos youve vaped out all the thc an goodness so by turnin it up all your getting is burnt plant material an chlorophyll etc not much thc in bags after say the second bag on setting 4-5 depending on how big your bags are an how much is in there. so in my opinion its a bit pointless turning it up to get more out of it as generally you dont get any more of the good stuff. also ive saved my volcano duff an revaped that on setting 7-9(after being vaped twice on setting 5) when ive ran outta weed an although i got some vapor from it it tasted like burnt shit an didnt really do much jus had a slight chillin effect also made me cough like fuck.

just out of interest how big do people do their bags an how many bags in one chamber, an how much do you all put in it at one time an how many u do a day??

No, it's not defeating the object. It's not burning the weed.

The reason i turn it up is 'cause you get a stronger hit when it's up higher. Nothing is burnt so i'm not getting burnt plant material.

I don't 'revape' weed as a matter of course. I sometimes save it and if i run out, i have re-vaped it but it's not very nice.

One chamber, one bag, one stone.

You didn't get anything off your 7-9 setting, 'cause you've already vaped most of the good stuff out of it. My bag is probably 50-60cm tall when full, usually have one after work and then maybe a couple more over the night.

ok cool mate i just thought it would char the weed quit a bit thats all, it has when ive done it that high,
i will try it myself in an hour or so after the one im now doin an see wot its like my bags an everything is the same as you.

I like it pretty hot too, but it makes me cough like a bastard.

That's not strictly true mate, much as I hate to disagree. I've run the chamber 4 times before then forgotten the next morning and done a run again which still has some effect, but obviously it tasted like crap

between setting 3 and 4 i find lowest acceptable setting , but the weed is still fiull of resin after running on level 4.

i would like to advize u eating cakes, and triggering direct high affest by doing a lil weak vape.

otherwise you could rub yourself with resin oil.
this works good too.

i used mine at about 6.5 to 7 to get a good hit from it

Yea, you can revape '9 weed' and get stoned, but it's no where nearly as clean and high and defined as fresh weed on 9. You can roll 9 weed into a joint and smoke it, gets you pretty wrecked, but i'd call it muddy.

Most of it's gone if you do a first run on 9. If your first run is on 4 or 5, there's a few more good stones in that chamber at higher settings.

Does it matter where you rub it?



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how about watercuring your bud if your not bothered about taste?you could even bubble the wet bud after the water cure and make a really clean hash..just an idea.

I'd give up until after your fight then get high

Im a thai boxer and theres no way i could smoke, The day i started training for a fight was the day i quit smoking, Its hash yogurts for me but as im workin all day and train 8-10 im fucked by the time i get home and so i save them for my day offs

eating in healthy youghurts is a great low fat, lung saving option. hash can be melted into a teaspoon of warmed oil and blended right in

don't think anyone has mentioned this... why not make a tinture? no fat in alcohol, vodka isn't very caloric either. just get some vodka and put some keef in it and heat it up, but make sure you don't heat it about 170 F. i don't think you have to give it up. just cut down on it.

hey Nausicca,

I use a Violcano myself - mainly for medical reasons - anyhow. Forme I try to ensure there isa no smoke in tehre at all, and I have found that it differs very slightly on various hash, but generally the same for greenery

green - 3.2 to 3.5
hash, between 3.5 and 4.5 dependant on origin - Asian at a lower temp to North African.

No smoke at all - and it definately gets me high