Ok guys and girls i have a 4ft by 4ft raizeed veg bed i can use this year, i can buy this kit that will sit over the top of it and protect it with fine mesh, and i can add plastic for waterproofing but its hight is only 110 cms. What strains of outdoor plants naturally stay small and squat???

Not too sure about specific strains, genrally indica dominate strains tend to be smaller and squatter than sativa's but if heights an issue looking in to topping that should help keep your height down.

el nino from greenhouse r very small plants that r good for outdoor.and they can be toped to keep evern smaller.and more bushy. peace

If you slowly tie your plants down, you can eventually create a ground vine plant with colas sticking up along the length of plant. If you start when the plant is relatively young, it will be more pliable and you simply keep pulling it as low as you need it with more stakes and tie downs.

Yeilds will be higher than if you topped your plants

Would this not maybe rot in an outside bed under a cover? Might be worth putting an inch of pea gravel or something underneath the plant.

I like the idea ...

Did my first greenhouse grow last year, and it went well.

I used Pot of Gold (100% Indica) and that stayed short, smell was very good too, no problem there.

See my thread here for an idea... http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=140418

Notice the New Purple Power compared to pog, my pogs finished under 2 feet, if I let the NPP finish, it probably would of grown to 4-6 feet.

As for mold, absolutely none at all And they were dense buds aswell

Well good news on my mission. The missis has agreed to a greenhouse

Also if you havnt seen these yet

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If there is all ready a thread covering this then delete it please and point me in the right direction. If not then please share with me your tips and techniques for tieing plants down. This years plants can get upto 300cm, i was advised on another thread that tieing down would give a greater yeild than topping them, so now i am curious as hows best to tie down my plants. any idead folks would be great. many thanks in advance. mr T

I always tie mine down in a quite simple manner - piece of garden twine round the top of the plant, other end to a lump of concrete. Keeps them stealthy and increases yield, every branch tries to make like the main cola.

How do I edit a post here? Wanted to add something above.

not 100% sure but i think you have to have a few posts (10 !) before the edit button shows
then you see the edit button on the bottom right of the post you made

ok yeah, but does your main stem not snap? do you not bend it a little each day?

Scroll down on this thread this is when I first put the ties on a couple of my plants.Clicky Clicky You think there gonna snap but they dont just pull the top down slowly your'll know when to stop.

here are 2 excellent methods i have deployed on my grows:

1. tie down
you need to be careful tying down...as the branches lower to the main cola take off and start to grow like main colas, so you can end up with one giant plant occupying a large space....I have had an entire greenhouse with 2 plants looking like a jungle...

my advice is, use a giant plastic type pot. on the rim at the top screw in 4 sturdy long screews, leaving a good inch exposed, north south west & east. Use a round garden tie twine (not the flat sandwhich bag type) that you cut at desried length....keep training the lead cola over so that the branches behind are actually higher, so they then become the focus....this method is less stressful than cutting, but you must feed more when flowering as yuo will have MANY MANY more buds

2. 'chess board' plastic mesh
another method I had deployed in indoor/outdoor grows with sativas & indica strains is to go to a garden shop B&Q, homebase ...whateva, and purchase a roll of the plastic grow mesh. it is usually green / brown coloured and is bascially a mesh of squares approx. a couple of inches each....cut a square pice out about 2 or 3 times the size of your growing pot top and place over the top. tie it down with garden ties to the screws so it doesnt move too much as the plant grows. tie down with longer twine so u can adjust the height a little as u need. This method will allow you to basically train the lead cola to grow in an indivdual square...as it gets longer bend it and poke it under another...so eventually each square will have its own main branch..the main plant stays low and one plant will look like you have 20 growing from one pot. feed plenty again...

good luck...NO CUTTING required! i may have a pic somehere so will dig it out...

HIGH All, it's what I do to mine Also...except insyead of congrete...I just put a hole in the pot (around the rim) and tie to that....good post green_fingered_toka

No, doesn´t snap at all. They are very resilient. For the first month or so I needed to move the twine as the plant grew.