Right lads, I am in the process of kitting out my room. The room measures 13ft x 10ft, the ceiling is 4ft at the side and rises to 7ft in the centre of the room. I have insulated the roof with rockwool and have used plasterboard for the ceiling and walls. I intend on putting in a 10 pot atami wilma and 600w light, I have attached a few pics to give you an idea of what I'm up to. Any suggestions and tips would be great! I'm a first timer and am looking forward to this big time!

Nice work

is that 600w for the whole room??? rule of thumb is 40-60w/sqr foot. so you gonna need around 4000w for the whole room. unless you plan on using a small section of the room for veg. you will need 1 sqr meter for your 600w bulb. looks like you put work into your room, great job so far.

Cheers mate.

The room is big but I am only going to be putting 10 pots in the centre of the room. The rest of the room will be empty. The walls with the reflective surface are a few feet away from the plants, will this affect the how much light hits the plants?

Yes, it diminishes rapidly with distance. You would do better to have the reflective surfaces up close to the growing area. I have a couple of tall plywood boards with mylar taped to them, very useful for getting more light reflected into the growing area.

Oh shite! I may have to rethink that one. Could I drape the silver sheeting around the centre from the cieiling and tack it at both ends. Hmmmm. I'm gonna have to think this one out a little more.

you could do that, effect similar to a tent

what ventilation are you gonna be using?

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you could do that, effect similar to a tent

what ventilation are you gonna be using?
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I have two fans like the one attached below and am thinking of getting a Primair fan controller as well.

I'm now thinking of just getting a half decent tent and slapping it in the middle of the room. It would be far less hassle than going and trying to divide it up. Any recommendations for of a decent tent to put my 10 pot wilma in?

You need to measure the usable width mate then you can see what size tent you could use. If you can fit a dr120 in then i'd use one of those with a 600. Like i say you'll need to measure 200cm up on each side and see what width you got. I can fit a 160cm high tent in my loft but your's is quite a bit bigger so it might be doable or there are some companies that do 180cm tall tent if a 200cm one won't fit.

Nice one KC! Many thanks for the reply mate.

The DR120 is the exact tent that I was looking at getting and there is enough space to fit it in the centre of the room. I was looking at getting it from HERE. Does that price seem reasonable? Also gonna get a Primair controller and I think were all set to go after that!

nice looking room fella

Thanks a mill Leepy, was following some of your stuff! That sh1t reads like a novel mate!! All ye heads on here really are inspiring!

Now I wanna make sure when I get this tent that I have all the angles covered, how many of these fans should I get? Would two do me?

Another thing is, I'm a little worried about my space getting too cold when lights are out, what is the minimum temp when light are out?

Thanks all!

I assume you are not using them for extraction 2 should do for air circulation (you can get similar from B&Q for about a fiver but im a tight arse) and that tent is a fairly good price and they are a good place to buy from good after sales etc. My temps go down to about 17 oC at lights of if they get to low get a tube heater not to expensive and cheap enough to run.
Happy growing

PS nice space fella.

Bet that will look sweet when your done bruv all the best

Nice one staion! Two it is so! Another thing, there is 2 sockets in the room, so I need to buy one of THESE bad boys?

Ye you are much better of with one you should be able to run your 600w and the rest of ventilation etc of it (I am a bit thick when it comes to elec so you might be best checking with greens or wait for someone who is good with elec to post).
Greens are going to be sending you birthday cards at this rate fella its a good investment though.

Hello again

Lucky you got so much height, the dr120 will be spot on. I'm not sure if i would bother with the primair though bud, try your fans running full speed first, might save youself some cash. I got one but i'm always on full speed anyway so i might just remove it. I'm not sure they're very good for fans, i had an intake die on me that was wired through one of them and i'm sure it was only a few months old.

A contactor with more than one socket is very handy as you can plug other things that you might only want to run when the lights are on (say a fan pointing at the lights) But i wouldn't plug your extraction into it as you want that running 24/7. Just get a normal multiplug adaptor for running stuff like that if you're short on sockets.

Best of luck with Bob

Nice one stinky, I like the look of your detup mate! I may keep an eye on it!

hey there bob, looking good mate, what we like to see a careful and considered approach. that contactor should be more than adiquate for you,
2 power outlets is brill! (i have four on mine!) makes things very safe incase of power surges and fires etc.
that particular model is rated for 10amps and will work upto 2x1000w lamps at 5a each so your 600w(if thats what your gunna use?) will be fine
-have you thought about 2 rooms and lights? you could veg with a 400 and bloom with a 600 and still have a load of load you could run through the contactor

Yeah, its sweet that she's gonna fit in, saves a lot of hassle. I'm a little worried about the noise of the fans, and I thought that getting the primair would limit the amount of time the fans would be on and therefore less noise, would that not be the case then? They seem noisy enough like and the floor and walls arent insulated.

Nice one on the contactor, I'll get the two socket one so!

I'm gettin excited and it's not even my room !

looks great and adaptable. you could pretty much do whatever you want in there. I'd be thinking more on terms of getting a perpetual in there but it's early days yet.

I know fuck all about leccy. I have a four point contacter though and it's great. was only a little more expensive than the two point so it seemed worth it. I also use surge protection adapters on everything connected to the wall socket. they are usualy kickin about in bargin bins in b+q, homebase, whatever. for a couple of quid you will save electricity in the long run and protect equipment.

nice set-up mate.

pulls up his armchair and cracks open a can looking good so far i'll be watching this one front row if you don't mind?!
liking the space wish i had that much room to play!



smokes

Lads this is what I have so far -

600w Eurobright Ballast - I hope this isnt some cheapy shit make thats gonna go wrong on me?!
Grostar Refelctor
Phat Filter
Ph Meter
Thermometer and Hygrometer
10 Pot Wilma
Biobiz Light-mix
Biobiz Top Max, bio-grow and Bio-bloom


I'm going to grow in compost as this is my 1st grow and I don't want to fook the whole thing up!

Isn't the Wilma a hydro system?

You don't need the pH meter if you're going with compost.

It can be used as Hydro or compost, I am going for compost. So that ph meter is a waste of money then? Do I not need it to measure how much nutes is in the reservoir?

Pulling up me bean bag for this one.

Used a DR120 on my last grow, and the're good. My only problem was it was just a bit too tall to fit in the loft so I ended up chopping 3 inch off the poles to get the bloody thing in.
Mate... you've got shed loads of space to play around with, and I reckon in 2 or 3 grows, there will be more than 1 tent in there
Loads of helpful people around here if you get problems, so don't be afraid to ask.

Good luck... Burton

E2a.. Make sure you shut the door behind you when you go in your room. Just noticed you've got a window in your roof, and you don't want to light the street up when your in there.

good composts stabilize the ph. around nuetrel I think. It's a higher ph reading than hydro.

Thanks for all the advice guys! I have been just been trying to find if there are any wilma grow diaries using compost but I can't seem to find one

Am I mad growing in compost? The reason I am, is because I was told its better to do that for your first grow.

Compost for your first grow is a good call. It's much more forgiving than hydro when you make mistakes, and you will. And cheaper to set up.

You don't have a reservoir growing in compost, that's a hydro technique.

The pH meter is for measuring how acid or alkaline your water is. It's important in hydro but unnecessary in compost, where the compost buffers tghe water to the correct level automatically. The device for measuring nute strength is called an EC meter. It's vital in hydro and unnecessary in compost, where you don't need to feed at all until you go 12/12, and the dosages are much more flexible.

it's better, in the long run, to have a piece of kit and not need it than to need a piece of kit and not have it. As a rule, find out exactly what you need before you buy it. there are many ways to solve issues. I always look for ones that don't cost anything first. Don't be seduced with gadgets, especially when you don't even need 'em.

Ok lads, just about to get going at this. I was just wondering what light should I use to start with - once my 10 Blueberry seeds start to sprout?

Looking like your ready to go bruv i use a 125 enviro if thats any help does the job nice.

Many thanks for that Stinky! Can I pop this in and run it off my 600w digital ballast?

125 enviro cfl does not need a ballast dude its just for vegging. If you have a 600 w already then some people veg they plants using that. Do you have a dual spectrum bulb? im no expert bruv i bought a 125 enviro and power lead for like £30
then switched to my 600 w for flowering. Greens or growell shops sell cfls bruv hope that helps but you might want some better advice like i said im no expert

cool grow room
i love to se a new room starting

btw
hos is that Eurobright ballast working for you?

ive bought one in 400 watt on a good ebay deal bit i wonder if its any good or you just getting what you have payed for?

is it working correctly?

have you tried it with many bulbs for compatibility?

is the radio interference low or does it interfere with nearby televisions etc?

Sorry mate, I am just about to start germinating my seeds tomorrow, I'll let you know how it goes or your probs well into your grow now?!

Very nice room m8 if it were my room i wouldnt put a tent in there, uve built the room so may as well use it, id use the money your going to spend on the tent & buy another light like the 1 you already have & there you go, 1 fuckin mint room with 2 grostars & alot more scope to fuck about or if youve got enough cash buy the tent & set it up outside the room & that could be used for vegging only, just a thought

all the best with whatever ya do m8 but that area is very nice, would be a shame not to use it after all the work you put in

Healthy

Hello bobwOOds..Great space you got there.Been doing a new room in my loft for a wilma set up too..
Do you plan on using the wilma watering system when growing with compost.I saw the wilma system advertised as "soil or hydro".
How do you feed in compost,with the drippers or arrows or by hand?
Good luck with the blueberry..Nice..
Plotty Pants..

fill the room!