Lebanese

Genetics: Pure Lebanese Hashish Cultivar
Harvest: September to October
Aroma: Cedar and pine with hashy spices and sweetness
Characteristics: Early maturing with compact growth and short internodes
Grow Type: Greenhouse or Outdoors

Lebanese hashish has a deserved reputation as some of the finest in the world, up there with the best Afghan and Nepalese. Characteristic aromas are cedar and pine, with a sweet edge when smoked, and deliciously hashy spiciness. Lebanese hashish has superb potency: the earlier harvested blonde produces a more rushy high, the later cropped red has a sedative stone. Plants are compact and early maturing, and have red colouration in cold temperatures. Our Lebanese line has great credentials, originating in one of the most renowned regions of Beeka Valley.

Lebanese Blonde

Namkha,

Lebanese is an excellent strain. You have done well to get landrace seeds.

Do you know what sort of mould resistance (if any) it has? The only reason that I do not grow indica hash plants is because they go mouldy so easy.

This is the reason I have resisted the temptation to buy any of your Mazar line. Years ago I made the mistake of crossing a huge purple Afghani with my sativas. For years afterwards I lost hundreds of plants to mould. Whole crops in fact.

I like tropical sativas because they are almost 100% mould resistant. Even 25% Afghani in the line creates huge buds that go mouldy in the first rain shower. I'm always searching for a strain that will reduce the flowering time of my sativas without introducing mould.

Some Lebanese plants go a lovely red or purple colour in the cold. The whole plant changes colour, not just the buds.

scrubdog

red lebanese

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scrubdog

Leb27 (Lebanese sativa) fully adapted to the Danish weather type with lot of rain, but potency seems to be not so strong.Perhaps high in CBD!!!



Namaste :

Hey Namkha,

Good to see nice leb on the scene! i still am after your Highland Thai. The shots look great. When will we be able to order off the site? And when will the leb be available + price (35£?)?

Sticky!

price are up on the site www.therealseedcompany.com

card order will be ready in a couple of days

you can order by post now

25 for £55
12 for 27.50
5 for £13.75

yes....the leb27 is nice...... (en dansker mere hehe )

I've been after some Lebanese for a while now, any idea how they'd do in an indoor environment? (it's my only option here). Cheers!

no... but they are compact plants - short internodes etc. so they should produce compact plants

if you're worried then you could grab a 5 pack and do a trial

Me too, like NG said

just saw your post - nice one namkha

Sounds like a plan - thanks.

Hey namkha how tall does this strain get when fully mature outdoors ?

Hi Namkha, how many weeks flowering does the lebanese have, and how would it do outdoors in the UK do you think?

hi... "I don't know" is the answer to all those

I would expect them to stay around 2m and finish up in the first week of October... but that is just a guess

yum yumz

Im looking for some old greek hashish cultivars or descendants of.. i read alot of the hashish production in greece moved to lebanon in the 1930s when greece made hashish illegal...
Is their any chance this lebanese strain has greek ancestory.?.
Does any one know of any greek lines still around?

Ganja Devotte - I spent a while amongst the Turkish growers on Northern Cyprus. They had several very distinct strains that came round seaon after season. I've often wondered where the genetics originated and if they were using Greek strains. I know the Greek side of the island had an inferior, flat/dull weed I smoked a bit of. But the Turkish side had two strains in particular that were truly electric/trippy, very very strong stuff indeed. Loved the whole Turksih stoner culture thing
I'd love to get hold of those two strains, so very different from each other and so very wildly trippy like a tab of acid in a Rizla.

My wife grew up in Greece and it is the reason we are looking for greek strains as it is her MS medicine and we believe in macrobiotics, so greek weed would be more beneficent medicinal to a greek person, i know not everyone would agree with that but its beside the point..

Arnold my wife says the electric trippy style weed you mention reminds her of a strain that was grown in Kalamata in the Pellopenese, which was a traditional greek line and known as Kalamata and considered the very best . Very happy very social but kick arse strong.

we have tried so hard to find any beans from there, but to no avail it seems either that line is no more or it is kept very secret and guarded.
One place that is keeping Greek lines pure for sure is Crete, a certain region is autonomous and they grow serious herb and guard their lines fiercely.
A friend of my wife is related to a grower from there and he couldn't even source us any beans,they wouldn't let any go, and you certainly couldnt just turn up in that area un announced unless you feel like getting shot. The greek police tried to exert their authority in the region last year and the locals didnt think twice about shooting at them. Some of them Cretans are crazy.

In my years of searching it always seems to be just over the horizon, someone will promise some and they will never arrive or someone will be talking to someone and hear of some but never happens. so i just grabbed some of these Lebanese as they are a mediteranean strain and may be close to greek lines. My fond memories of leb hash of course helped in the decision.

Here are 7 lebanese about 4 weeks old.....

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looking lovely mate ---

really excited to see these Lebanese being run

all best

Some closeups of the best lebanese.....

niiiiiice

another superb strain from real seed co.

Hi Ganja_Devotee,

I have tried to run a couple of small seed batches that were sourced in Greece and allegedly Kalamata, but for one reason or the other the results weren't really good (so far, anyway).
I currently have a small batch of seeds from the mount Olympus area (nr. Larissa), which came from A+++ weed, and which I am probably going to run this winter. Incidentally, the locals from that area are quite adamant that their stuff is better than Kalamata well... you know how locals are!

BTW, there was never really a Greek landrace hash strain, all the traditional stuff (Kalamata, Crete, Agrinio, Thessaly and Rhodope) are all pretty "sativa" with varying levels of 'electrification'. The hash that was cultivated briefly (and officially) at the end of the 19th century, mainly in the Northern Peloponese, would have been of Middle Eastern provenance, Lebanese and Turkish varieties mainly I would imagine. I have somewhere a directive sponsored by the Greek Ministry of Agriculture, and authored by one of the regional mayors on how to cultivate hashish for maximum reward! Seed prices, labour costs, cultivation, male removal, by-products, everything.... it's hilarious and surprisingly accurate considering it's over 100 yrs old. I may translate it sometime for a laugh.

In the meantime I think you'll do well with Namkha's Bekaa Lebanese, I'll be running them, too, at some stage. Feel free to PM me if you want more info on other sites with Greek weed info, you know I'm not allowed to say "Jehovah" on this board Oh shit, I said it...

Hey Gert,

Interesting info, many thanks

I'm surprised you think that the Greeks never really had a proper hashish strain...

The whole Eastern Med cannabis culture is a new area for me

But given the massive role Greece and Turkey played in supplying Egypts n million hashish smokers you would have thought that they would have had some cultivars very well suited to sieving

According to Sir Thomas Russell Pasha, Syria and Lebanon only became major hashish exporters after Greek prohibition in 1932

in 1944 Allied forces destroyed seven million square metres of crop in the Levant; in 1945 the Lebanese authorities claim to have destroyed 22 million square metres

it seems fair to assume that similarly large scale cultivation was going on in Greece and Turkey and that they would have had some pretty nifty cultivars to do the job

there seems to be bugger all info on Turkish strains --- maybe something with a Central Asian heritage? and appearance?

Hey Namkha
Here's my Lebanese next to a litre of PM for comparison, i only cracked 2 seeds and 1 was a female so i've taken cuttings from lower down and thrown her in to flower smallish as i'm limited with headroom inside and so this one is a tester.
5-6 weeks veg and she's been in flower a week today, she was 16.5" when she went to 12/12 and now a week later she's only 20", lovely tight nodes, she looks like she's gonna be like 1 big cola
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Hi Namkha,

Yeah, it's not just me, that's the accepted view and backed somewhat by documentation. I'll try and find the Ministerial Directive for you and translate.
Basically, before 1821 what is modern Greece was part of the Ottoman Empire. As it is, Greeks were never really a big-time ganja nation, perhaps a few old-timers in the villages. In the more Northern parts of Greece, where there were far larger cross-cultural influences, with Greeks, Turks, Bulgarians, Pomaks, Gypsies, Sephardic Jews and Wallachians sharing the space before the ethnic purges of the Balkan wars, things were a little different, and I imagine far more hash was present. This ties in somewhat with popular lore. In fact this area did not gain independence and join up with Greece until 1912! Up to then it was pretty much a Levantine scene, with many Sufi influences and hash would have been a pretty unremarkable phenomenon. Since Turkey already had well established hashish growing areas, especially the renown product from the Bursa region, there may have been little incentive to cultivate on the difficult, rocky Greek soil. Further, trasport was not really an issue as it was a stone's throw from say Salonica to Bursa, and all this was in the domain of the Sultan.

The interesting period lies shortly after Greek independence stretching to the eventual outlawing of cannabis at the turn of the century.
With independence many Levantine Greeks came back, bringing their gardening knowledge with them. Meantime, Egypt had outlawed hash and there was a gaping demand to be filled in the market. This was due in part to the neurotic nature of Napoleon and his aftermath, and partly due to the discomfort that Egyptian middle and ruling classes had with the "lower orders". They felt that it was a threat to society as it made the common man laugh at them. I believe this is on record. Oh, the impertinence!

Anyway, almost ALL of Greece's then legal hash crop, which had only appeared and started systematically around, say, 1850, was being run into Egypt illegally and for handsome profits by smugglers. Some also made its way into Europe and some even into the States, where Greek refugees had recently made their appearance. Their use of HASHISH (not Mexi-brick, hehe) is also documented, and I believe one of the few clandestine hash houses in New York was owned by a Greek.

The main agricultural area of hash production in Greece, I believe was in the NW Peloponese, while perhaps a few thousand acres in total were under canna, before Prohibition struck. However, as I said, this hash was not indigenous/traditional, it was a new-fangled earner of the day. OTOH, no-one has really studied the history of the "sativa" landrace stock, which is lost in the mists of time. I have some ideas on the subject (the key being the origin of the Cretan stock) but without proper DNA analysis to solve the mystery, they are merely speculation.

Great info...

Would love to get a look at that directive in its original Greek.

On its way!
Hope you are comfortable with the old-fashioned, 'officialese' Katharevousa
If not, a translation into English will be available soon as I have a bit of spare time.

received and understood

One part that stood out for me and made me think was the mention of how to distinguish males from females...
If my understanding is correct it stated that the males will always be spindly and the females will be bushy and strong .
I was wondering if this was a inaccuracy on the part of the author
or could it be possible that the strain they were using had these characteristics as the norm?

Yes that is right GD Robert Connell Clark also states that in Marijuana Botany.

Sticky

Eta. This is how i get the idea of distinguishing which are likely male, although i still wait until i see some male private parts. On the other hand, this theory has worked great for me.

i had 1 male and 1 female, males now dead,
at first i could tell which was which, the male was stretching a lot quicker than the female, the nodes were further apart but not much, when it came to sexing/maturity time, they kinda looked the same until they did show sex then it was obvious,
they looked very similar imo until maturity

sorry my post was a little off topic and was referring to an old greek government information directive on growing hashish which Gert lush kindly sent me, not the Bekka valley lebs.
I also popped two and the prettier and bushier of the two was the male, a shame because it had a pink tinge to the new leaves and i was hoping it would be a girl and maybe express that pinkness in the buds as well, alas it grew bollox so he became future compost.

my pc is up the creek and cant get photos off my camera or i would show my leb girl 3 weeks in flower.

hey Ganja_Devotee

would be great to see when you've sorted the pc nightmare

nightmare sorted..

i flowered her early because of an imminent move..

shes around 3 weeks in..

has a very slight fruit squash smell..but im not good at describing smells
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Lebanese at 7 weeks.....first one is just under 2 feet....other 2 are about 16 inches .......

Hey namkha here's another shot of the big leb from a couple of days ago....

not yet blooming, but still bloomin lovely

well she came down at day 61, exactly 35", showed signs of nute burn later on in flower after i found out she didn't need any nutes
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loads of those little calyx type balls everywhere and not many trichs
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after a little trim
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as i said not very frosty but a thick cola and solid upper buds
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looks good leroy...yet us know the final weight.

Buds look nice dude but questionable to what strength they look like, defo like a taste & strength report !!

Worried now as i got 6 ladies under a 600 right now 3/4 weeks into flower and they got no trics at the mo too....

What yield you get would be interesting either average by plant or whole crop please....

Hope your efforts were worthwhile though

i also got a bunch of lebs on the go,

total weight and smoke report would be much appreciated

have a look in Matsi's Lebanese and Nepalese thread

thank you much appreciated

not the clearest picture and it grew next to 10ft high corn.. that might have stunted it's growth a bit... it can't be higher than 2ft

The lebs I have outside have just started flowering......just yanked a dozen or so males ......most females are a little over 3 feet tall and are a light green colour.....several phenotypes showing......very narrow leaf.....narrow leaf ......medium width leaf, and I have 1 female with really fat leaves that looks like a short stocky kush plant.......get some pics up soon as possible...