I recently bought 10 Nirvana ICE and got 5 mazar-i-sharif seeds as freebies.
I'm germing them now but after a discussion with the seed shop, they are genetics directly from the area and NOT Dutch passion's version.

After realising this and after doing some reading i've read they can grow to 4 metres?!
So i've got a few questions, ,

Should i be growing these indoors?
Has anyone grown it? I guess the closest would be world of seeds version? Any advice?

Cheers

I saw the Real Seed Co are selling 'em and wondered the same thing myself. Assume you just don't veg 'em to long.....

I just Popped 10/12 of these myself...
They were supposed to be duds wern't they RSC ???
I may put them outside.... I may not.... I havn't decided yet...

mazar is one of my all time favourite strains to grow, it's dense as fook, sprouting branches where there shouldn't be space for another branch, you can keep your plant heights down using many many methods.

sadly had to get rid of it cos it brought spidermites in with the clone of it that i got 1 year into growing and took 2 years to eradicate the mites after that

thats bugger all to do with mazar, the mite issue, even with the mites it grew better than the other strains that were infested too

the Mazar-i-Sharif freebie Weedio has is (pretty obviously) the one from Gypsy Nirvana - they are a broad-leaflet variety brought back by a soldier

it is not the same Mazar-i-Sharif that The Real Seed Company is selling

Tree Man - since when was our Mazar-i-Sharif a "dud" - it's a proper Afghani hashish cultivar, the same used to produce "Shirak-i-Mazar" the best sieved charas/hashish in the world --- not that so-called Afghani in the 'Dam, but something only people who have visited Central and Southern Asia will have got to smoke, or very lucky and well-connected people get to every try

Dophed is - I am guessing - talking about the Mazar from one of the Dutch seedbanks - not a pure strain, but one that has been crossed

if you guys could be clear about where you were getting your seeds from and which seedbank it would make life a lot clearer

pic1 is our Mazar indoors, being grown by Scorpion at the minute

pic2 is our Mazar grown outdoors in Spain - finished up in the last weeks of October

Yea, I'm assuming the Mazar mentioned is one of the x's, I'm on about the mazar-i-sharif from RSC. Is that as stocky as the mazar from dutch passion?? I have a 2m home box thing so am not to constrained for hight, but would like to know what I will be dealing with.

Whoa!
I didn't mean duds as in shit!
I just meant you sent them... FREE saying they had germination issues... but 10/12 popped..
That would be a compliment.

ps. just to clarify...
Namakha, am i correct in assuming your from the RSC and are those pics the mazar, or mazar-i-sharif??

oh totally a cross m8, it was the quite popular strain for a lot of growers when i first started and was the first clone given to me as a newb, shame it had mites

all i remember was it was way too dense for a plant as small as it was, like a 3ft plant squished into a 6 inch high plant

... argh...

Dophed was talking about a Dutch cross, Weedio was talking about a pure landrace cultivar being given away as a freebie by Gypsy

Dutch Passion's Mazar has been bred for generations for indoor growth under low UV conditions like HPS light, and - so it is said - crossed with Skunk to improve its adaptation to the weirdness of indoor growing

you should not constrain height by limiting veg - these plants are from 36 degrees North, they need long daylight hours for veg

if you want to limit height then constrain the root size by vegging and doing the first two weeks of flowering in small pots, then transferring to bigger pots when stretching has slowed

with our Mazar-i-Sharif you are dealing with plants which have been bred for generations by Afghans, Pashtuns and Tajiks for growth outdoors under intense desert sunlight, and icy cold dry and snowy conditions during Oct/Nov --- they are big indica plants which have been bred for hashish production by sieving

the are at least three threads on our forums which can tell you more

Hi - yes I'm from RSC and the pics are of our Mazar-i-Sharif

when I'm talking about "our Mazar" I mean our "Mazar-i-Sharif"

Mazar/Mazar-i-Sharif is a city in Balkh province in the North of Afghanistan, arguably home to the greatest charas/hashish in the world --- known as "chaars" to people in the region

apologies for any confusion, I genuinely find it hard to follow what people on here are trying to say sometimes

Weedio - just to answer your question I do not think Gypsy's Mazar-i-Sharif will grow so tall as ours - should generaly produce more compact plants with very wide leaves

this is not an attempt to detract from GN's M-i-S at all, but the evidence from Schultes and Clarke etc. is that the short wide-leaved plants in Afghanistan etc. are closer to the native wild plants in the region --- the wide leaves and compact structure are an adaptation to intense sunlight, dry air and low rainfall levels

there is a general perception among Westerners that this is what a "real" Afghani should look like - but both large plants like our Mazar-i-Sharif and also short plants like GN's have been grown for hashish production there for ages

in the case of the short wide-leaved plants this goes back probably to the 30s and 40s when the Chinese kicked the Turks out of Xinjiang (the biggest and best hashish producing region in the world until then) and they collected wild plants as they travelled into and across Afghanistan

in the case of big hash plants like our Mazar-i-Sharif they have probably been cultivated around Balkh etc. for several hundred years - Vavilov a Russian botanist recorded seeing massive plants grown in Northern Afghanistan at the end of the 19th century if I remember rights

so chances our that the RSC represents an older Afghani hashish line

Thankyou Namkha, i did read your thread in your breeder forum about it and came to the conclusion that this thread would die, but it didn't.

From what i've found reading grow diarys and such over at ICMag these do tend to stay smaller.
To be honest though i'm more interested in your var of it than GN's after reading so much about it .
Time and a place though, i'll grow these then grow yours and post up a comparison.

Well, I just ordered me some of these RSC mazar-i-sharif beans - I will report back...

is there a pure Mazar-i-Sharif offered by any of the seedbanks? To be honest I have no idea... but I would have thought people would have gone crazy about it if there was... I heard Reeferman was offering Sam Skunkman's pure Mazar-i-Sharif at one point... I would assume that was the same one Neville had, but frankly I have no idea - all just hearsay

Treeman - apologies for the tone, I misunderstood you - anway, good luck with our Mazar-i-Sharif --- weather permitting they ought to finish up around the end of October if you grow them according to Western tastes i.e. 2/3rds trichs turned

that story about the british soldier sounds like BS to me

wouldnt surprise me if they werent mazar-i-sharif at all

knowin what that TOSSER gypsy nirvana is like

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This is one of the Mazar-I-Sharif freebies from Nirvana.
Growing nice and squat/bushy under a 125w enviro at the mo with another.
Planted 2 and 2 germed... so far so good!

how come he,s a tosser m8 . does he tell a lot of lies or summat

There's been rumours of money going missing when mail ordered, seeds never arriving etc.
His support forum over at ICMag will throw a light on it.

From what I've heard deliveries going missing are more of a problem for the breeders sending stuff into him. Lost a few breeders from the site recently I think. I've never had a problem with my orders. However as far as the support forum goes I hear it is heavily moderated, threads get deleted very quick there sometimes. Also I've heard Gypsy has all PMs monitored on ICmag whichworries me alot.

I have 2 freebie packs of the mazar from gypsy. Might think about popping a few some time but my seed addiction means I've got other seeds which I already know are tried and tested god quality genetics.

peace

mello