Those are sweet.........u got skills m8

I think everyone's gonna get on those easys next year hehe

strange thing happened when i went to take the easy cuttings, the very bottom branches don't seem to be flowering at all , they were all hiding in the cages were the rabbits have trimmed them so i've not really inspected them. i took 6 cuts from the most advanced plant and all looked like they were still in veg mode. so they should root no probs i would have thought.

question i have for anyone who may know. can this affect the start time of the strain if i mother one of the of said clones and take cuts next year? ie. because the tiny branches i took the cuts from still ain't flowering now will any cuts i take from the potential mother plants not flower till this time next year even though 95 percent of the rest of the plant is halfway through flower, if you get me

i reckon its either something to do with the lower branches no getting enough hormones? (most being focused to the top) or the light levels hidden under the canopy... if your mother plant works out and your plant grows normally i dont think it will matter.

Im not sure, but I rekon a clone is suposed to be an exact replica of the plant it was taken off (genetically) and therefore flowering time should be the same ie very early. Its environmental factors such as not getting as much light and prunning by the rabits which will have slowed the bottom branches down. Thatd be my guess but im ever an optimist.

Wake

i thought the same also but i'm not certain

Take the clones the lower branches arent budding because of lower light levels/shading or whatever,do a test run,stick one in flower for a few weeks see if it shows hairs I have had a look at lower branches that werent budding because they were shaded by nettles,anythings worth a try And drop female seeds NL a message or leave one in their forum,if its a trait of ES they will be aware of it and advise accordingly,anythings worth a shot

tbh the reason i haven't asked is it wouldn't be good business practise for them to say they'll re veg or be able to be kept as live genetics for future clones. i suppose its worth an ask but i'll test some anyways. i have the 6 cuts sat in a prop happily next to a few killer skunk clones. now on a 24 hr light regime

Worth a trial Killer skunk clones sound good as well,be interesting to see how they do outdoors

The killer clones are just some i took from the female of the 2 killers i used in the breeding plan. The females gone now as its the male i'm using to breed for outdoor seed stock. I thought it may be worth keeping a couple as its sounds good for indoor it'll finish too late for me without a tweak or two

I'm close to the 6 month mark i've heard a couple of times is the limit for keeping an easy in veg. I germed in mid feb so its going be interesting to see what happens. If it works i'll be a very happy bunny indeed

homegrown fantaseeds say the same about early girl. however it's pheno-dependant. some can be kept, which i suspect could be the same with these beans. i bet if you cut from numerous plants you'll find one that will veg for next year

well the leb and the passion have started to bust there balls so i'm off today to do some pollination. targets for the first load of pollen is a biddy early which is having some passion pollen and an unknown early indica which is getting the leb pollen. as soon as the killer breaks its nuts i'm going to pollinate an early easy sativa with all three lots and tag the branches. that will probably be tommorow by the looks of the male flowers on the killer. the plants i have indoor will be pollinated in a couple of weeks when they flowers get bigger

sounds like a good plan mate

well the dirty is done. biddy early x passion 1, i'll go and give it another brushing next week to make sure. the plant its self is coming on very nicely. very decent buddage for this early in flower, smells like strwawberry. not an amazing bud structure density wise but mould shouldn't be an issue like it is. its the other traits i'm after really early and smelly. we shall see.

sounds lovely mate

Biddy Early is excellent outdoors,the smell was to die-for,I remember that from the ones I grew,and very resinous,if you have pollinated one of the early phenos you hopefully have something a bit special for next year

well it certainly going to be up there with the other earlys this year. maybe a week behind the early easys, not sure if the paasion will have a positive input or not on the cross. it'll be a suprise pleasant or not i'm just messing about really, feeling about in the dark if you will. if the easy clones come off i'll probably only try a few seeds in next years crop. i thought i'd give it a go as i've never intentionally produced seed.

Self-sufficient is def the way forward Munki , they'll shut the seed banks down one day, of cors thats after we all get severely ripped off

ATB

Magoo

They sound like great crosses munki,..i wish more uk growers would start to breed there own outdoor crosses.....it would be beneficial to all of us in the end,instead of constantly looking overseas for that perfect plant,why not use whats all ready out there and breed,cross,climatise our own unigue strains for the uk climate.....all the best mate,would love to see those easy crosses on here next season.....peace yossman

and indeed you shall

One front row ticket please sir,
early sativa x killer skunk..killer early? now that should be a fine cross..

Have you done an ESxBE Funki? I think that might throw up a few surprises

Unfortunately i have no male biddy to do it with till next time i grow some fresh seed. But it is gonna be worth a try most def if the easy clones come thro

funki m8
good luck with the breedin project

If he told you, he'd have to kill you!

I have just been back through this thread,they are indeed some size,I especially like the pic on Post #530 because that is certainly what anyone would judge as early I like this thread,very good read

Fantastic thread Funki I wish you luck with your pollination.
I have a two early girl males that have been in flower for a few weeks now but my belladonna and other early girls are only just thinking about preflowers so nothing to seed, how do you tell when they are ready to 'get it on' so to speak?

bit of an issue with rot on a couple of the earlys, rain and humidity are taking there toll on the dense buds. its not drastic but enough to be a pisser. its really only happening at the one site. this could be down to the level of standing water on the ground in this area. looking very fat now. i'll get some pics up soon

Nowt too drastic I hope? It will still come good

its not a massive problem but it may get worse i suppose. i would estimate at no more than 3 weeks left till finish, if they do go to end sept and beyond they'll be ridiculous yielders. i'll just keep checking for rot every visit and remove the effected areas till the point where production is less than losses or maturity which ever come soonest. i can smell them at 10 metres when the wind blows right funny about that post 530
i smoked that bud this weekend with my grow buddy. we'd got no green so we took it the week before. 7 grams dry. i'd forgot how potent it actually was. smells as strong as any indoor apart from the blues/cheese types. very very sugary. a pleasure to toke believe me. even though it was a bit early. i got sick of tormenting myself every visit

You smoked #530 I looked at that pic loads of times,enlarged it,I think I once even scratched my screen just testing in case UK420 had added "Scratch'N'sniff" facilities So it delivered the goods?

oh yes and in the best possible way.
if your not a smoker ie never have been its hard to describe the effect of the easy as its a weird brew. it hits the throat and the hairs on my arms stand up. my grow partner rung me the other night and he's a heavy smoker but everything we generally buy is indica types and are very heavy. he was like fookin hell you were right i've just smoked a full un, my hearts racing, i feel like i'm having a cardiac incident is this sativa stuff normally like that. yup its good shit, now stop pacing about the house and try and sit down or do something productive, give it 5 and you'll not want to move when the palpatations stop
it delivered the goods. it still really stinks too when dry where as last year the smell was milder when dry. i've nominated a plant we'll be picking at so we don't have to buy anymore this year. i'll put a picture up of some dry when i snip another branch

Yup,dry bud pic sounds perfect,I wonder how it would go crossed with Biddy Early?Amy idea what is in Easy Sativa?Hows it bred?I think everyones going to race to bag seed stock when the new beans are advertised,feet already in the starting blocks here

no idea, tropical sativa...... could mean anything really mate. the one i'm trying to seed must have some indica in it, as the leaf is far from tropical sat looking to me. the bud structure is a mix of both imo with the internodal spacing of an indy but the top cola is pointy like a sativa rather than the traditional fist shape of an indy. i just hope they've concentrated on the early rather than the late pheno in the new stock. i will certainly be placing an order when it turns up just to keep the stock up.

Aww, CONGRATS Mr Munki!! Pulling 'em in already, well done Sir!!

I've heard that early, fresh sativa can be a little 'racy', let it mellow for a month, might explain the rapid heartbeats!!

i forgot to mention i also crossd a branch on the biddy with killer skunk pollen and 1 with the leb pollen.
i may have to revise my plan to seed the easy at the cheeky plot and seed some of the clones which are now poking there first roots out which i am amazed about. you see if i pollenate it outdoors and the rot gets into the branches i use i'll be fooked to put it bluntly. so i'll just flower 3 of the clones indoors straight away and seed them with the 3 male pollens instead.

BiddyXks & BiddyXes Sounds worh while growing those out,I always loved Biddy Early.

Genious mate......keep up the good work and glad to hear the easy was a toking pleasure! ATB as always munky!

seeded killer x passion#1 ,only small buds as there only being grown under a 125 blue enviro. plenty of seed sites swelling nicely all over the plant

seeded cream sodica #2 x killer

finally a very skinny purple bursting with seed

Cream SodicaXKiller skunk Sounds a little bit special Hows the outdoor ladies coming along Funki?

Hey mate just wondered how many seeds you can expect to get off one polinated branch?

~Satta

Nice work making your own Xs munki, the killer x passion seems like a nice mix of potency and sturdyness of passion.Hopefully oneday we will all have the ultimate uk outdoor strain.

awesome!!

great work man

nicely on the whole. a few security issues at the moment but nothing i can't handle. 2 sites have been sort of compromised. nothings gone yet but i reckon its only a matter of time.
some cheeky plot pics. the bud foreground is the later pheno. the one in the background the early one. 2nd pic is me sniffing the late pheno.

plot with the 2 earliest front of shot. the plant on the right of shot is an odd one. its the runt of the lot and later than the lot

no idea mate, i can tell you you can produce 1 seed with 1 grain of pollen on 1 pistel so do the maths.