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g9psy
OK . . . lets get crackin'
We all know ( or we should ! ) that our ideal nutrient solution in our tanks should be constantly maintained at around - imo - 19/22 degrees C, this is because the nutrients are more readily available to our lovely ladies . . .
The normal recomendations to attain the ideal temp are, to either use nutrient heaters ( with intergrated thermostats ) or heat mats however after years of growing I still encounter numerous headaches using the afore mentioned. The heaters sometimes burn up or crack and break up,( before anyone mentions it -I'm aware that water levels need to be regularly monitered and kept above the tubes ) and sometimes the element just blows. I 've even broken the " unbreakable " ones !!! As for the heat mats, all the ones I have come across are SHITE ! On top of this when working in a multi- tank system, wiring is cluttered and valuble sockets are taken . . .
A few years ago,in my grow shop, I came across a contraption that had a main control unit(thermostat) with eight long lengths of wire with a metal element on each end (so as to place this end in the tank )however my man at the shop sent them back claiming they were dodgy and unreliable, but something like this could help me greatly. . .
So please has anyone out there any alternative remedies, tips, recomendations or suggestions ?
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Randalizer
Well I'm in the states so our 'leccy situation is a bit different here, but the basic ideas here may have some applications in your situation.

What one needs to look at is the total power draw of all the heaters (I use a titanium heating element in my tanks). Once this is known then design can begin.

Two things to consider: the power capacity of the power feed cable to the heaters, and the same for the thermostat control. If both cable and control (thermostat) can handle the total power draw then easy peasy. Get one cable with multiple outlets spaced along the cable convieniently and plug into your thermostat control.

It won't get any easier. yes.gif
Sportster999
Dont know if it would be feasible, but what about a water bed heater? Dont think they draw that much current.....
g9psy
yes.gif What one needs to look at is the total power draw of all the heaters (I use a titanium heating element in my tanks). Once this is known then design can begin.

Howdy Radalizer
Is the titanium heating element that you use, encased inside a water(nutrient)heater ? In other words, inside a tube which rests on a plastic casing with suckers underneath ? If so these are the very things I,m trying to get away from as the ones available in the uk mainly suck! If this is the case which "brand " do you use and whats its lifetime ( how long do they last/perform adequatly )?
Or have I mis-understood you . . . is your titanium element a naked metal rod that sits directly in the tank ? If this is the case can you suggest any links where i could possibly view these so as to grasp a better understanding . .
If you are suggesting hookin' up a certain number of the heaters onto one plug, then I 've already been down that road ! russian.gif
To recap . . what I,m trying to do is get away from these "pessy" heaters and discover an alternative . . .
[b]Thanks for your comments and patience . . . its all deeply appreciated
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Randalizer
QUOTE (g9psy @ Feb 4 2009, 08:09 PM) *
Howdy Radalizer
. . . is your titanium element a naked metal rod that sits directly in the tank ?


How do and yes.

Aqua Heat Titanium Reservoir Heater

These automatic electric heaters are perfect for getting your reservoir to an optimum temperature. The Aqua Heat is durable and reliable with a fully submersible titanium heating tube and a wall mount temperature control unit. Temperature range is from 68-93 degrees Farenheit. We recommend using the 200 watt model for reservoirs of 50 gallons and under while using the 300 watt model for 50 gallons and up.

There is a disadvantage to having everything tied together. If it goes down, they all go down.
g9psy
QUOTE (Sportster999 @ Feb 5 2009, 03:16 AM) *
Dont know if it would be feasible, but what about a water bed heater? Dont think they draw that much current.....


Hey Sportster999 . . .
My problems lie not with the electricity consumption but with piss-poor water-heaters
, whats a waterbed heater look like ? What dimentions are we talking about ?
Thanks for your imput thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
g9psy
QUOTE (Randalizer @ Feb 5 2009, 04:17 AM) *
QUOTE (g9psy @ Feb 4 2009, 08:09 PM) *
Howdy Radalizer
. . . is your titanium element a naked metal rod that sits directly in the tank ?


How do and yes.

Aqua Heat Titanium Reservoir Heater

These automatic electric heaters are perfect for getting your reservoir to an optimum temperature. The Aqua Heat is durable and reliable with a fully submersible titanium heating tube and a wall mount temperature control unit. Temperature range is from 68-93 degrees Farenheit. We recommend using the 200 watt model for reservoirs of 50 gallons and under while using the 300 watt model for 50 gallons and up.

There is a disadvantage to having everything tied together. If it goes down, they all go down.



LOVIN' IT, LOVIN IT, LOVIN IT !!!
Thanks a million Randalizer. . . I,ve never seen this sturdy piece of equipmment before . . .it looks promising yahoo.gif If any uk growers are reading this . . . have you seen these pumps on our shores ? If so . . where?
Once again "muchus gracias" Randalizer . . . I owe you my friend notworthy.gif
Randalizer
de nada mi amigo. Enjoy. wink1.gif
Randalizer
nice one wb. It looks very similar to mine.
TightBud
how about something like this from EM2.........underfloor heating
put it on a stat and all that
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...t=0&start=0

weedmonsta
how about aquarium heaters for tropical fish??
Sportster999
QUOTE (g9psy @ Feb 4 2009, 11:19 PM) *
QUOTE (Sportster999 @ Feb 5 2009, 03:16 AM) *
Dont know if it would be feasible, but what about a water bed heater? Dont think they draw that much current.....


Hey Sportster999 . . .
My problems lie not with the electricity consumption but with piss-poor water-heaters
, whats a waterbed heater look like ? What dimentions are we talking about ?
Thanks for your imput thumbsupsmileyanim.gif



Waterbed heater are not submersible, but a thin rubber mat that would lay underneath any water you would need to heat....You could find 'em from garage sales to any waterbed store. Runs off household current. But I know they can warm at least 100 gallons or more...
Randalizer
The problem with waterbed heaters is that they are too big for most tanks. Unless you were able to put all of your tanks in one spot over the mat. g.gif That would involve a bit of plumbing methinks.

Thanks for the link TB! thumbsup.gif

e2a: After reading EM2s topic and thinking about it, I like my titanium rod best methinks. naughty.gif It suits The Randalizer! flex.gif
g9psy
Cheers TightBud . . .
Its definetly thinkin' outside the box . . . which is what I am after . . . however,unfortunatly this method would not be feasable for the system we work in . . .
Hello Weedmonsta . .
The aquarium heaters you suggest , have already been used by myself ( see original post )
Thanks everyone for your comments please if anyone has anyone other idea's, feel free to contribute . . .
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