I'm a migraine patient. I get tension migraine headaches every day of God's world. I can't remember the last time I had a pain free day - I think it was before Thanksgiving. I also suffer classic and "rusty nail" cluster migraines. Those are day-enders and thankfully don't happen that often though I am hurting pretty damn bad at the moment I am composing this note.
Some findings from the playground medicine cabinet...
You would think sativas - because they are "all in the head" - would be the answer, but they just fuel my paranoia and keep me up at night. Indicas seem to be what I should be reaching for...
I am growing a cross (another fucking sativa!) of AK47, Romulan, Peak19 and White Rhino. It's supposed to be the bees knees for pain. It was also supposed to finish in like 45 days... Well, that was bullshit, so the rest is liable to be a rough ride. We'll see.
What are peeps growing that kill the migraine beast?
Still looking for that silver bullet that will slay me a dragon.
Full Version: Migraine Madness
Cant help with the choice of herb, its never done me any favours regarding migraines. I, luckily (or not depending on perspective) get migraines only every couple of months with a real disabling dont move for days headfucker about 1 a year. I can sometimes put off the smaller ones by recognising the symptoms early and getting some extremely strong painkillers supplied by my good old gran. If its a good un then i'm fucked and nowt touches it. Obv I consider myself fortunate to not have the frequency that you do bud, my heart goes out to you, they aint fun. Anyway the reason I posting is that i read a while back that a guy had happened upon a cure(ish) that worked for him- magic mushies. I cant find details but if it something you maybe interested in then have a butchers about. I'll see if i can rememebr what it was and post if I can. He had the same cluster headaches that you describe. the ones that can drive people to suicide. He didnt take them like you would a painkiller obv, but every now and again and the headaches stayed away.
All the best man
ETA Bollocks. Keeps telling me the links broken. Anyway google this: Cluster Headache Treatment with Psilocybin Mushrooms & LSD. Theres some good info on Erowid and plenty links from there.
All the best man
ETA Bollocks. Keeps telling me the links broken. Anyway google this: Cluster Headache Treatment with Psilocybin Mushrooms & LSD. Theres some good info on Erowid and plenty links from there.
I've been following the research and weighing my options on that one. In the State of Texas, if I get busted with my garden I am facing some unpleasant consequences. If I get popped with shrooms, I'll be in jail so long I'll need a name change from all the prison bitch sex I'll be sure to experience.
At the end of it, my wife just wouldn't understand. The pot - she gets that. If I start with shrooms, she'd probably lose her gourd.
Maybe next marriage.
The problem is I get the headaches everyday and my day job demands incredible levels of concentration and mental agility. I don't want to try it with a groovy shroom trip every day.
I gotta' save a few of those cells for when I'm old and really mushy (not like I am now, that's just the drugs talking).
Thanks for your two cents.
At the end of it, my wife just wouldn't understand. The pot - she gets that. If I start with shrooms, she'd probably lose her gourd.
Maybe next marriage.
The problem is I get the headaches everyday and my day job demands incredible levels of concentration and mental agility. I don't want to try it with a groovy shroom trip every day.
I gotta' save a few of those cells for when I'm old and really mushy (not like I am now, that's just the drugs talking).
Thanks for your two cents.
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The problem is I get the headaches everyday and my day job demands incredible levels of concentration and mental agility
you prob dont need me to tell you that the 2 are prob linked
try this, extremely powerful and healthy, it could be what your looking for and may only require 15 mins in the morn and 15 mins at night once u find the technique/exercise that stops/helps the headaches,
ps
im not really into etheral type things I cant touch, more super realist than anything else , but this shit works.. don't ask me how but it does
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong
I try to remember to exercise three times a week. I'm getting better at it but I am 30 pounds overweight - that's about 12 - 13 kilos of fat I'm carrying around. I don't look fat because I am rather broad, another story... Anyway, I put on weight (again) when I quite smoking last year. Tobacco was a big contributor to the headaches (as you can well imagine) and after smoking for 30 years, well the doctors felt I had gotten everything out of tobacco that I am likely to get.
Focus... Right!
So, being an older guy, I am taking a little better care of myself than I used to and exercise helps. You reminded me that flexibility exercises quite often serve to wring out a portion of the tension and help relieve those headaches. It helped a little with the brute I have going now. So thank you for the reminder! Long way around the table I guess...
Yeah, the job has a lot to do with it, but the mental challenge is worth it. If the "use it or lose it" rule applies at all to your work life, then I should never be senile.
We'll see. So far, the odds aren't looking too swell...
Focus... Right!
So, being an older guy, I am taking a little better care of myself than I used to and exercise helps. You reminded me that flexibility exercises quite often serve to wring out a portion of the tension and help relieve those headaches. It helped a little with the brute I have going now. So thank you for the reminder! Long way around the table I guess...
Yeah, the job has a lot to do with it, but the mental challenge is worth it. If the "use it or lose it" rule applies at all to your work life, then I should never be senile.
We'll see. So far, the odds aren't looking too swell...
How old are you? I have had problems with migraine in my teens but when i started to smoke regulary i have only had one attack a year ~ before that it was maybe 30 times a year. My migraine was probably released by stress. 
i find lots of people confuse bad headaches with migraine, headaches hurt but migraine takes your life away.
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migraine takes your life away.
yep grandad
it also makes myself go blind and have to get in bed in the dark with a bowl by the bed for the puke thats gonna follow .
thankfully i dont get them very often .
think my trigger is certain lighting conditions .flouro lighting is a killer for me ....
peppi
i used to be the same untill i met a chinese lady who did acupuncture. I didnt get it done but she gave me good advice, she told me that tension headaches and migrains are very often caused by the shoulders, and neck muscles being to tense and tangled in a way (not actually tangled but im sure you get my drift), she told me i should keep my neck and head relax at all times. Since then i went out and got a memory foam matress and pillow, and new desk chair which also supports my neck, since then the headaches have been very rare and easy to controll with 1 moderate pain killer.
BUT there is one factor that still hits me hard.....excessive sunlight, too much light kills me as my eyes are sensitive which makes my eyes strain which
........fuked really
a massage from the mrs helps too
canna
BUT there is one factor that still hits me hard.....excessive sunlight, too much light kills me as my eyes are sensitive which makes my eyes strain which
........fuked reallya massage from the mrs helps too
canna
I am not a sufferer but my missus is, for the last god knows how many years she has suffered terribly with migraines. She wakes at 3am and will wretch the bile off her stomach for a further 3 maybe 4 hours. She has tried all the prescription drugs she has had thrown at her, some she is supposed to take on the onset of her pain, she trhows them up. A month ago she had one of the worse headaches she has had, off to the doctors we go again, this time it's diagnosed as a cluster something or other and more tablets. She doesn't drink, and her only vice (pff) is her weed consumption.
She has smoked since the cannabis since the age of 14, she rolls joints but does not smoke ciggarettes at all, all though her joints are rolled with tobacco.
Now I hope what I am about to say falls very short of the mark, but do you think the weed could be giving her thewse migraines... I hope not as she would be a fucker to live with if she wasn't stoned
She doesn't smoke until 3pm as she works until then.
This isn't a monthly occurence, more like a weekly one, if she goes a fortnight without one she is very lucky.
I am writing this as she is on the couch right now, suffering from a mild attack, anyone got any magical remedies
She has smoked since the cannabis since the age of 14, she rolls joints but does not smoke ciggarettes at all, all though her joints are rolled with tobacco.
Now I hope what I am about to say falls very short of the mark, but do you think the weed could be giving her thewse migraines... I hope not as she would be a fucker to live with if she wasn't stoned
She doesn't smoke until 3pm as she works until then.
This isn't a monthly occurence, more like a weekly one, if she goes a fortnight without one she is very lucky.
I am writing this as she is on the couch right now, suffering from a mild attack, anyone got any magical remedies
migraines can be caused by the lack of minerals available in the brain ..i get them or should i say i used to get them ,i was told about a rememdy at the london hemp expo in 2005 ..i actually had a migraine when i arrived there ,the solution was to be quite honest ridiculous to me but i wouldve tried anything to get rid of it or at least take the edge iff ..well some guy spotted me wincing and said here try this ..he put a bit pinch of something in my bottle of water ..i drank it and ten minutes later i felt great ..of course i asked the guy what it was and it turned out to be organic sea salt ..it has to be organic sea salt because it contains the minerals the brain is depleted of ...well a pint of water with a good teaspoon of sea salt in put me right ,no other salt will work as they dontcontain the minerals ...id say give that a try ,and no it wont make your missus sick as sea salt calms nausea and all manner of other things ..please give it a try ...79p in the health food shops ...a pint of it a day for a few days and then see how shes doing ,i now carry a small bag of it with me everywhere ,and the amount of people who ive given some too only to see the pain slowly dissolve away is unbelievable ...hope this helps
btw migralieve tablets have a coating on that can cause migraines ...avoid them ...my mother was recently hospitalised by these tablets ..she still has an allergic reaction to them now making her break out in a full body rash ,which isnt nice .the salt works for her very well
also make sure shes not having anything with aspartame /e951 in her food ...sweetners in tea or coffee ..as this is a known migraine causer
also has your missus had her eyes checked lately as my migraines were an underlying symptom of high pressure in the eyes ..glaucoma ...id had headaches and migraines for a good ten years before i got my eyes checked ..so glad i did ...dust allergies caused my sinuses to be permanently fucked which in turn was causing the high pressure in the eyes which in turn brings about the migraine ..
btw migralieve tablets have a coating on that can cause migraines ...avoid them ...my mother was recently hospitalised by these tablets ..she still has an allergic reaction to them now making her break out in a full body rash ,which isnt nice .the salt works for her very well
also make sure shes not having anything with aspartame /e951 in her food ...sweetners in tea or coffee ..as this is a known migraine causer
also has your missus had her eyes checked lately as my migraines were an underlying symptom of high pressure in the eyes ..glaucoma ...id had headaches and migraines for a good ten years before i got my eyes checked ..so glad i did ...dust allergies caused my sinuses to be permanently fucked which in turn was causing the high pressure in the eyes which in turn brings about the migraine ..
Thanks Vince, we will get some today as she is at the doctors in an hour.
i hope it works for her ...but go through all your food stuffs /drinks and throw away anything with aspartame in /nutrasweet ..e951 ..check her medications for it too as its commonly placed in those as well as a sweetner ..bastard stuff ..im very sensitive to this stuff and i get a headache from just a couple of sips of a drink containing it ..
Hi Mate, sorry to hear how frequent you get these. I'm a sufferer too but only once every few weeks (crazy muscle tension and sickness, sweating etc).
I find smoking is the worst thing i can do, best fixes in my eyes are either amyltriptilene (get them from your docs for either depression or sleep problems/migranes) or belive it or not paracetamol and cocodomol (they have to be on perscription though as they're stronger). Sink a couple of those and power nap for 20 mins. That normally gives me enough grace to get through the day and sleep it off when i get home.
Hope you get somewhere...
I find smoking is the worst thing i can do, best fixes in my eyes are either amyltriptilene (get them from your docs for either depression or sleep problems/migranes) or belive it or not paracetamol and cocodomol (they have to be on perscription though as they're stronger). Sink a couple of those and power nap for 20 mins. That normally gives me enough grace to get through the day and sleep it off when i get home.
Hope you get somewhere...
QUOTE (vince noir rock n roll star @ Jan 23 2009, 09:11 AM) 
migraines can be caused by the lack of minerals available in the brain ..i get them or should i say i used to get them ,i was told about a rememdy at the london hemp expo in 2005 ..i actually had a migraine when i arrived there ,the solution was to be quite honest ridiculous to me but i wouldve tried anything to get rid of it or at least take the edge iff ..well some guy spotted me wincing and said here try this ..he put a bit pinch of something in my bottle of water ..i drank it and ten minutes later i felt great ..of course i asked the guy what it was and it turned out to be organic sea salt ..it has to be organic sea salt because it contains the minerals the brain is depleted of ...well a pint of water with a good teaspoon of sea salt in put me right ,no other salt will work as they dontcontain the minerals ...id say give that a try ,and no it wont make your missus sick as sea salt calms nausea and all manner of other things ..please give it a try ...79p in the health food shops ...a pint of it a day for a few days and then see how shes doing ,i now carry a small bag of it with me everywhere ,and the amount of people who ive given some too only to see the pain slowly dissolve away is unbelievable ...hope this helps
btw migralieve tablets have a coating on that can cause migraines ...avoid them ...my mother was recently hospitalised by these tablets ..she still has an allergic reaction to them now making her break out in a full body rash ,which isnt nice .the salt works for her very well
also make sure shes not having anything with aspartame /e951 in her food ...sweetners in tea or coffee ..as this is a known migraine causer
also has your missus had her eyes checked lately as my migraines were an underlying symptom of high pressure in the eyes ..glaucoma ...id had headaches and migraines for a good ten years before i got my eyes checked ..so glad i did ...dust allergies caused my sinuses to be permanently fucked which in turn was causing the high pressure in the eyes which in turn brings about the migraine ..
btw migralieve tablets have a coating on that can cause migraines ...avoid them ...my mother was recently hospitalised by these tablets ..she still has an allergic reaction to them now making her break out in a full body rash ,which isnt nice .the salt works for her very well
also make sure shes not having anything with aspartame /e951 in her food ...sweetners in tea or coffee ..as this is a known migraine causer
also has your missus had her eyes checked lately as my migraines were an underlying symptom of high pressure in the eyes ..glaucoma ...id had headaches and migraines for a good ten years before i got my eyes checked ..so glad i did ...dust allergies caused my sinuses to be permanently fucked which in turn was causing the high pressure in the eyes which in turn brings about the migraine ..
Thanks from another sufferer Vince. I'll try that next time I get the flashes! I dont get em often anymore but when they come its like an axe in the face. Something new in the armourey is always appreciated
QUOTE (Dopamin @ Jan 22 2009, 11:09 AM)
How old are you? I have had problems with migraine in my teens but when i started to smoke regulary i have only had one attack a year ~ before that it was maybe 30 times a year. My migraine was probably released by stress.
If you keep asking personal questions like this, we'll have to go out on a date. The answer is 47, but that's an absolute state secret.
My missus started getting her migraines at the age of 45.
She has my sympathy. I've had them ever since I can remember. It's funny the things you remember. I played pee-wee league football as a grade schooler. The first year I played I got voted to the league All-Star game. I had a severe migraine attack the day of the first practice and couldn't even put on my helmet. Everyone thought I was goofy and a sissy and all that. Really weird. In my case there is something genetic going on too. My father got the headaches. Both of my brothers got the headaches. One of them ended up with a brain tumor. He died the day Hurricane Katrina came ashore. Took an afternoon nap and never woke up. 43 years-old.
I hope he got the release in the hereafter that so eluded him in life. His life was an extraordinarily sad story. Prison... heroin... broken family... kids...
Out of all the kids in my family, I'm the lucky one. I survived it all and got out of that nest of vipers that was my family of origin...
I hope he got the release in the hereafter that so eluded him in life. His life was an extraordinarily sad story. Prison... heroin... broken family... kids...
Out of all the kids in my family, I'm the lucky one. I survived it all and got out of that nest of vipers that was my family of origin...
it would be nice if anyone who is trying the seasalt method of migraine relief posts here to describe the effects or outcome ..
I haven't tried that one. Thought I had tried them all. What's the sea salt method?
at the onset of a headache or migraine then put a teaspoon of the salt into a pint of water and drink it down ...simple as that ..if that doesnt work then have another teaspoon in half a pint ...but of course make sure you dont have heart problems or high blood pressure (although sea salt shouldnt really affect those ,only processed salt does that so im told ..but im no doc ...i juts know what works for me and quite a few others )
What the heck? Sounds different. I've tried the water cure before (warm, hot and cold) to try it, but this one sounds different.
I'll give it a whirl...
I'll give it a whirl...
any results from migraine sufferers yet?
sods law aint it m8, she hasn't had a bad head since the thread started 
Another thing you could try worked for a friend of mine who was a martyr to her migraines.
she bacame vegan and stopped tea coffee and chocolate
she hasnt had a migraine since
she bacame vegan and stopped tea coffee and chocolate
she hasnt had a migraine since
QUOTE (The Villain @ Jan 27 2009, 05:11 PM)
sods law aint it m8, she hasn't had a bad head since the thread started
IT WORKS praise de lord ....just by thinking of using salt a miwacle has occured
the strain u need has been tried
its called "G bomb" these days - uk clone- seeds available too i heard.
veg 21- 42 days
main stalk bud indica
flower - 42days when growing hydro with high temps to 54 days when growing soil with medium temps.
typical resinous indica that will totally sooth you and calm you down.
1 bowl and yer done..
hope that helps you.
its called "G bomb" these days - uk clone- seeds available too i heard.
veg 21- 42 days
main stalk bud indica
flower - 42days when growing hydro with high temps to 54 days when growing soil with medium temps.
typical resinous indica that will totally sooth you and calm you down.
1 bowl and yer done..
hope that helps you.
QUOTE (vince noir rock n roll star @ Jan 27 2009, 07:13 PM)
QUOTE (The Villain @ Jan 27 2009, 05:11 PM)
sods law aint it m8, she hasn't had a bad head since the thread started
IT WORKS praise de lord ....just by thinking of using salt a miwacle has occured
hi m8 ive suffered from terribile migranes all my life
but over the past few years ive suffered from Cluster headaches which i cannot even begin to describe the pain from them , have collapsed its been so bad
Smoking will not help, along with alchohol etc smoking has been the trigger for several attacks...and smoking in general is not going to help migranes and any other form of headache...eating bud could be somehting to look into though...?
but over the past few years ive suffered from Cluster headaches which i cannot even begin to describe the pain from them , have collapsed its been so bad
Smoking will not help, along with alchohol etc smoking has been the trigger for several attacks...and smoking in general is not going to help migranes and any other form of headache...eating bud could be somehting to look into though...?
I only get clusters like once or twice a month and you have my sympathy because those bad boys are just day-enders. I get a cluster headache and I start vomiting - it feels the same as a severe concussion to me. Just bloody awful...
Tried the seasalt special last night for a tension headache. Didn't work. I'll keep trying it to see if it works at all for me. You can't tell with a small test.
Speaking of tests, I'd better get on with some quality control tests...
Tried the seasalt special last night for a tension headache. Didn't work. I'll keep trying it to see if it works at all for me. You can't tell with a small test.
Speaking of tests, I'd better get on with some quality control tests...
hi everyone
just wondering is the sea salt dissolved in water basically sole , its just after reading the thread i googled it an iv ended up geting a kilo of himalayan mineral salts for 11 pound
it says you can cook with it bath in it all sorts , it apparently contains 68 of th 72 minerals the body needs. The sole is a drink prepared by dissolveing a small amount overnight in spring water , ill keep you posted if its any good ,
i also thought it might be a good soil addative hmm who khows ?
do a google on it see what you think
stickyrussian
just wondering is the sea salt dissolved in water basically sole , its just after reading the thread i googled it an iv ended up geting a kilo of himalayan mineral salts for 11 pound
it says you can cook with it bath in it all sorts , it apparently contains 68 of th 72 minerals the body needs. The sole is a drink prepared by dissolveing a small amount overnight in spring water , ill keep you posted if its any good ,
i also thought it might be a good soil addative hmm who khows ?
do a google on it see what you think
stickyrussian
I wonder what it will do for those of us who are hypertensive?
make your chips taste funny?
sorry im in a flippant mood .i apologise
sorry im in a flippant mood .i apologise
what is the purpose of sea salt and how does it help?
QUOTE (callywally @ Jan 31 2009, 05:37 PM)
what is the purpose of sea salt and how does it help?
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?s=&a...t&p=1614958
what am i supposed to be looking at, its hurts my eyes to trail through all that again
migraines can be caused by the lack of minerals available in the brain ..i get them or should i say i used to get them ,i was told about a rememdy at the london hemp expo in 2005 ..i actually had a migraine when i arrived there ,the solution was to be quite honest ridiculous to me but i wouldve tried anything to get rid of it or at least take the edge iff ..well some guy spotted me wincing and said here try this ..he put a bit pinch of something in my bottle of water ..i drank it and ten minutes later i felt great ..of course i asked the guy what it was and it turned out to be organic sea salt ..it has to be organic sea salt because it contains the minerals the brain is depleted of ...well a pint of water with a good teaspoon of sea salt in put me right ,no other salt will work as they dontcontain the minerals ...id say give that a try ,and no it wont make your missus sick as sea salt calms nausea and all manner of other things ..please give it a try ...79p in the health food shops ...a pint of it a day for a few days and then see how shes doing ,i now carry a small bag of it with me everywhere ,and the amount of people who ive given some too only to see the pain slowly dissolve away is unbelievable ...hope this helps
btw migralieve tablets have a coating on that can cause migraines ...avoid them ...my mother was recently hospitalised by these tablets ..she still has an allergic reaction to them now making her break out in a full body rash ,which isnt nice .the salt works for her very well
also make sure shes not having anything with aspartame /e951 in her food ...sweetners in tea or coffee ..as this is a known migraine causer
also has your missus had her eyes checked lately as my migraines were an underlying symptom of high pressure in the eyes ..glaucoma ...id had headaches and migraines for a good ten years before i got my eyes checked ..so glad i did ...dust allergies caused my sinuses to be permanently fucked which in turn was causing the high pressure in the eyes which in turn brings about the migraine ..
btw migralieve tablets have a coating on that can cause migraines ...avoid them ...my mother was recently hospitalised by these tablets ..she still has an allergic reaction to them now making her break out in a full body rash ,which isnt nice .the salt works for her very well
also make sure shes not having anything with aspartame /e951 in her food ...sweetners in tea or coffee ..as this is a known migraine causer
also has your missus had her eyes checked lately as my migraines were an underlying symptom of high pressure in the eyes ..glaucoma ...id had headaches and migraines for a good ten years before i got my eyes checked ..so glad i did ...dust allergies caused my sinuses to be permanently fucked which in turn was causing the high pressure in the eyes which in turn brings about the migraine ..
I'll try it today. If it works, I'll never grow another marijuana plant again. man, I am excited!!! A possible silver bullet! WOWOWOWOW!!!!!
combining Sanalgin (= propyfenazol+caffeine+paracetamol_), and some lil spliff should at least stop the tension in th neck area
Thank you. My neck is not the real problem. I have the "hatband" tension migraine as my daily challenge. It's a band of pain that encircles my head. Nonetheless, I'll look into what you suggested C&T.
Interesting thread. Hi all, I'm relatively new here. I suffer from classical migraines (aura, sparkly lights, everyone sounds like the adults in Charlie Brown etc). I've used cannabis for the last five or so years through a Volcano vaporiser (I don't smoke) - this has generally helped alleviate the headache that proceeds the Aura and on a few occasions has actually stopped the migraine in its tracks. I tend to prefer the Sativa end of the spectrum, mainly Thai and Jamaican - I'm not sure if it's because I don't like the 'hangover' I get from Indica. I do quite mentally demanding work so find I'm too fuzzy if I've used Indica. Sativa seems to clear my head better, if that makes sense.
On another note I considered growing a little while back, but decided against as it was a bit too involved and time consuming. My 'man' has left the country for a few months and I've been chatting to a friend who's moved to San Francisco recently and has told me about how well developed the medical marijuana initiative is over there. I'm less and less comfortable about funding what amounts to organised crime and was wondering what the best way is to getting medicinal cannabis in the UK. I'm not asking for specifics, as I think that's against forum rules, more a general point in the right direction.
I've spoken to my GP, he was deeply sceptical about medicinal cannabis on any level which was a bit disheartening not to mention irritating. Should I just change GP and try again?
On another note I considered growing a little while back, but decided against as it was a bit too involved and time consuming. My 'man' has left the country for a few months and I've been chatting to a friend who's moved to San Francisco recently and has told me about how well developed the medical marijuana initiative is over there. I'm less and less comfortable about funding what amounts to organised crime and was wondering what the best way is to getting medicinal cannabis in the UK. I'm not asking for specifics, as I think that's against forum rules, more a general point in the right direction.
I've spoken to my GP, he was deeply sceptical about medicinal cannabis on any level which was a bit disheartening not to mention irritating. Should I just change GP and try again?
dont know about you lot, but i have talked my doc in to me trying this stuff......
http://www.gwpharm.com/sativex.asp
he said it is not ment for head achs/ migrains
but due to tension release pain releafe and the anti depresant qualitys it should do the job for me!!!
get hold of my first script next week!!
i will let you know if it works or not!!!
oh sorry about the spellings!!!!
http://www.gwpharm.com/sativex.asp
he said it is not ment for head achs/ migrains
but due to tension release pain releafe and the anti depresant qualitys it should do the job for me!!!
get hold of my first script next week!!
i will let you know if it works or not!!!
oh sorry about the spellings!!!!
What did you tell him was wrong with you mr munchie
Try some lessons in the Alexander Technique, best money I ever spent, my grow equipment equipment being the 2nd best money I ever spent.
www.alexandertechnique.be/English/migraine.asp
www.alexandertechnique.be/English/migraine.asp
The purpose of this thread (okay rant) is to update my medical buddies on the potential for this new strain I have come to call "Russian Roulette" has for pain management - especially migraine pain. I'm a migraine sufferer who has been on a six-year odyssey (and sabbatical from life) in search of the strain that would do the nasty on chronic pain. I have grown a few strains out to be sure, but the issue I seemed to have faced was either the strain didn't have enough hitting power or it had a low strike rate (meaning it could kill the headache event) or you had to continually face the prospect of a nagging tolerance build-up.
So I looked at the chances of me getting lucky and so far a solution had eluded me. A real bummer. Undaunted, I have continued. A notorious dope fiend and all around good fellow sent me some seeds to try. He said that it had rather exceptional pain management properties. "Try it," he said. So I grew it out. I had some other stuff in the garden as well. All of the plants were ladies. I took exemplars for comparison purposes and found it to be really good pot; but the other pot was pretty good too. In one of the bages there were these seeds.
I didn't see any male flowers, but I admit that I have poor eyesight and could have missed it (calling a grow in my garden is a big-time PITA). The point was, there were these seeds in the bag that came from the seeds the fellow sent me - and that was great pot.
So, I grew this one out. The name is just a name, but it is a cross of AK47 by White Rhino by Peak 19 by some strain with an "O" in the name - "OR"? Couldn't remember. I guess that makes me a complete and utter burnout now, but I can only hope tomorrow will be better.
At any rate, these all - to my complete surprise - turned out to be identical phenotypes that are sativa dominant, central cola plants that seem to branch well and have lots of stretch - about 2.5x. For some reason, I had the expectation these plants would go 45 days, but they are at around Day 71 and I think they may chop this weekend.
I did some pruning two weeks ago - that's around Day 57 on what is going to be a 75 - 77 day strain tells you those buds weren't close to being ready.
Nonetheless, I have been testing them rigorously - with you kind folks' welfare in mind, mind you - for the good of science and all that. Without a doubt this strain can only get better. The hitting power is stunning. More to the point that - so far - it has a strike rate of like 2 out of 3!!! w out of 3 times it wipes out the headache. Now there are some "over-processing" issues that may lead to couchlock and a nagging belly bite that can threaten to blossom into an anxiety attack, but most normal people won't have nearly the problems with anxiety attacks that sick fuckers like me seem to attract like fleas.
What I can tell you is that this has potential and I am so astounded by it that I put together this rant on it. There could be some great things here and I am thinking the extra 20 days of ripening on the vine will result in a much-improved presentation once it has been suitably dried and cured. Naturally we will be converting some to oil and some to amber and delivering reports on those as well.
My point is that there may be a celebration in the offing and I will need the help of growers who actually know what they are doing and who will breed this monster into something even better - if that can be contrived - or isolating this monster if nothing seems to beat it.
Rant over... Let's flare one up...
So I looked at the chances of me getting lucky and so far a solution had eluded me. A real bummer. Undaunted, I have continued. A notorious dope fiend and all around good fellow sent me some seeds to try. He said that it had rather exceptional pain management properties. "Try it," he said. So I grew it out. I had some other stuff in the garden as well. All of the plants were ladies. I took exemplars for comparison purposes and found it to be really good pot; but the other pot was pretty good too. In one of the bages there were these seeds.
I didn't see any male flowers, but I admit that I have poor eyesight and could have missed it (calling a grow in my garden is a big-time PITA). The point was, there were these seeds in the bag that came from the seeds the fellow sent me - and that was great pot.
So, I grew this one out. The name is just a name, but it is a cross of AK47 by White Rhino by Peak 19 by some strain with an "O" in the name - "OR"? Couldn't remember. I guess that makes me a complete and utter burnout now, but I can only hope tomorrow will be better.
At any rate, these all - to my complete surprise - turned out to be identical phenotypes that are sativa dominant, central cola plants that seem to branch well and have lots of stretch - about 2.5x. For some reason, I had the expectation these plants would go 45 days, but they are at around Day 71 and I think they may chop this weekend.
I did some pruning two weeks ago - that's around Day 57 on what is going to be a 75 - 77 day strain tells you those buds weren't close to being ready.
Nonetheless, I have been testing them rigorously - with you kind folks' welfare in mind, mind you - for the good of science and all that. Without a doubt this strain can only get better. The hitting power is stunning. More to the point that - so far - it has a strike rate of like 2 out of 3!!! w out of 3 times it wipes out the headache. Now there are some "over-processing" issues that may lead to couchlock and a nagging belly bite that can threaten to blossom into an anxiety attack, but most normal people won't have nearly the problems with anxiety attacks that sick fuckers like me seem to attract like fleas.
What I can tell you is that this has potential and I am so astounded by it that I put together this rant on it. There could be some great things here and I am thinking the extra 20 days of ripening on the vine will result in a much-improved presentation once it has been suitably dried and cured. Naturally we will be converting some to oil and some to amber and delivering reports on those as well.
My point is that there may be a celebration in the offing and I will need the help of growers who actually know what they are doing and who will breed this monster into something even better - if that can be contrived - or isolating this monster if nothing seems to beat it.
Rant over... Let's flare one up...
hi sorry villian i thought u were talking about CH, if people asked i wouldnt even say cluster headache as its nothing to do with a headache or migrane apart from the fact its a pain...inthe head
No probs Cally.
Playground, my missus suffers severe vomiting alongside her bad heads. I have known her wake up at 2am and start being sick and to continue this well into the morninjg. Bile is what she throws up and she cannot keep any liquids down whatsoever. She has been suffering like this for many years, and each time it gets so severe she has to go to the docs, her medication is changed to something else. I just hope something turns up pretty soon to help her and others like yourself.
Playground, my missus suffers severe vomiting alongside her bad heads. I have known her wake up at 2am and start being sick and to continue this well into the morninjg. Bile is what she throws up and she cannot keep any liquids down whatsoever. She has been suffering like this for many years, and each time it gets so severe she has to go to the docs, her medication is changed to something else. I just hope something turns up pretty soon to help her and others like yourself.
found this maybe iit of interest
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Cannabis and Migraine
Many suffer from occasional or frequent headache (20-40 million Americans). While all migraines are headaches not all headaches are migraine. Most headaches are of the "tension" or exhaustion type. These types can be nasty but migraine can be seriously disabling. Those who suffer from migraine find that attacks can occur occasionally (1-4x/year) or as frequently as daily. Attacks can last anywhere from 3-4 hours to 3-4 days. Migraine can be "classical" (with aura) or "common" (without aura).
Migraine refers to a type of headache that is vascular in nature. Spasm and narrowing of the blood vessels leading to the brain produces a migraine "syndrome". Reduced blood to the brain causes lower oxygen levels, which in turn triggers the release of the brain chemical serotonin and the vasodilatation of blood vessels outside of the brain that can become congested with platelets. Migraine can be focused on one part of the head (hence the term "cluster") or may involve the entire head and neck region. The origin of migraine remains mysterious but certain clues are being studied including:
1. The role of nicotine and/or caffeine in initiating migraine
2. The fact that most (certainly not all) migraine sufferers are women indicates a possible role of hormones in triggering events
3. That migraine seems to run in families indicating a genetic basis
4. The role of food or other allergens in prompting migraine
5. The possible basis for changes in environmental conditions leading to migraine (temperature, barometric pressure, etc.)
6. Emotional triggers including anxiety, stress, and anger may play a major role.
If you have ever had migraine you know how truly terrible they can be. Classic migraine is preceded by an "aura" 20-30 minutes prior to the onset of the attack. This aura may include a metallic odor and bursts of light in the corners of vision. As the migraine proceeds light sensitivity increases and nausea is common. Over sensitivity to sound may also be present. Head pain is intense from nerve inflammation and vessel congestion. The migraine sufferer can be almost entirely at the mercy of symptoms. Frequent bouts of vomiting may occur along with the head pain. Driving, talking, and walking can become difficult.
The most common and frequently effective treatment of migraine is to promptly reduce light, take Excedrin (acetaminophen/aspirin/caffeine), reduce noise, apply cool compresses, and wait. Additional traditional treatment may include drugs such as:
Ergomar (an ergotamine derivative) to dilate blood vessels
Imitrex (sumatriptan succinate) to dilate blood vessels
Inderal (proprananol) to reduce blood pressure and relax blood vessels (a preventative measure)
Elavil (amiyltriptaline)- a tricyclic anti-depressant (a possible preventative medication
Naprosyn (naproxin sodium) an anti-inflammatory pain reliever
Tigan (trimethobenzamide) an anti-histamine to treat nausea
Compazine (a phenothiazine) to treat vomiting
Narcotics such as Demerol, codeine, or morphine to reduce pain
Toradol IM to reduce pain and inflammation
Fiornal with or without codeine- a barbiturate medication to relieve vessel spasticity
Often, when acute episodes of vomiting are present, oral medication cannot be used. In these instances patients usually receive treatment from a physician or ER where IM or even IV injections are used. If vomiting is particularly severe dehydration is a consideration and IV fluids may be administered.
Many of the medicines prescribed for the treatment and/or prevention of migraine can have serious adverse reactions and side effects. Life style changes to reduce migraine "triggers" may be of real benefit as treatment once a migraine has started can be difficult. Non-drug preventative measures including recognizing and avoiding migraine "triggers" are important.
First and foremost, those who suffer from migraine need to receive proper medical care including diagnosis by a specialist. A variety of tests may be utilized including MRI, CT Scan, EEG, and blood analysis. Other causes for headache such as tumor or blood clot need to be identified or ruled out. Alternatives to drug therapy should be considered including behavior modification and biofeedback. Sometimes something as simple as pressure applied just in front of the ear on the side of head where pain is present can help relieve nerve inflammation and blood vessel congestion. In many cases, though, medicines are necessary although they are often ineffective or the side effects may be intolerable. One of the most serious "side effects" is the risk of long term addiction to narcotic painkillers used to dull the ache of migraine. Regular use of analgesic medication for headaches in general can create "rebound" headaches when patients decide to cut down. This is true of non-narcotic as well as narcotic pain relievers.
How then might adjunctive therapy with medical cannabis be of benefit to those victims of these terrible headaches? History shows that cannabis preparations in the 19th century were widely prescribed for migraine. In England and America, cannabis was the primary drug used to treat "sick headache". Today tinctures are available that are absorbed under the tongue (sublingual) and work in minutes. Inhalation through a vaporizer or smoking can produce even more rapid relief. Absorption of cannabis through the lungs or sublingually is independent of the GI tract so is unaffected by nausea or vomiting.
Cannabis contains a variety of cannabinoids that act synergistically to help relieve migraine symptoms. Cannabis is both anti-inflammatory and analgesic in addition to its known anti-emetic properties. Recent research demonstrates that cannabis is also a mild vasodilator that can lower blood pressure. Cannabis can provide relief from muscle cramps that can accompany migraine (particularly of the neck and shoulders). Patients whose headaches may be anxiety related need to be cautious about cannabis as it can aggravate symptoms of anxiety in some patients.
Dose is patient dependent as is easily controlled with either tincture or through the smoking or vaporization of flowers (bud). A dose as low as 3-4 drops of tincture or less than a gram of flowers is often sufficient providing long lasting action (4-6 hours). Patients are advised to consult with their physician about adjunctive therapy with cannabis and initiate a trial period of treatment with the physicians expressed approval. Cannabis works best when combined with a migraine prevention program and non-drug relief such as restricted light and sound when attacks occur.
Medical References: National Library of Medicine - PubMed
Many suffer from occasional or frequent headache (20-40 million Americans). While all migraines are headaches not all headaches are migraine. Most headaches are of the "tension" or exhaustion type. These types can be nasty but migraine can be seriously disabling. Those who suffer from migraine find that attacks can occur occasionally (1-4x/year) or as frequently as daily. Attacks can last anywhere from 3-4 hours to 3-4 days. Migraine can be "classical" (with aura) or "common" (without aura).
Migraine refers to a type of headache that is vascular in nature. Spasm and narrowing of the blood vessels leading to the brain produces a migraine "syndrome". Reduced blood to the brain causes lower oxygen levels, which in turn triggers the release of the brain chemical serotonin and the vasodilatation of blood vessels outside of the brain that can become congested with platelets. Migraine can be focused on one part of the head (hence the term "cluster") or may involve the entire head and neck region. The origin of migraine remains mysterious but certain clues are being studied including:
1. The role of nicotine and/or caffeine in initiating migraine
2. The fact that most (certainly not all) migraine sufferers are women indicates a possible role of hormones in triggering events
3. That migraine seems to run in families indicating a genetic basis
4. The role of food or other allergens in prompting migraine
5. The possible basis for changes in environmental conditions leading to migraine (temperature, barometric pressure, etc.)
6. Emotional triggers including anxiety, stress, and anger may play a major role.
If you have ever had migraine you know how truly terrible they can be. Classic migraine is preceded by an "aura" 20-30 minutes prior to the onset of the attack. This aura may include a metallic odor and bursts of light in the corners of vision. As the migraine proceeds light sensitivity increases and nausea is common. Over sensitivity to sound may also be present. Head pain is intense from nerve inflammation and vessel congestion. The migraine sufferer can be almost entirely at the mercy of symptoms. Frequent bouts of vomiting may occur along with the head pain. Driving, talking, and walking can become difficult.
The most common and frequently effective treatment of migraine is to promptly reduce light, take Excedrin (acetaminophen/aspirin/caffeine), reduce noise, apply cool compresses, and wait. Additional traditional treatment may include drugs such as:
Ergomar (an ergotamine derivative) to dilate blood vessels
Imitrex (sumatriptan succinate) to dilate blood vessels
Inderal (proprananol) to reduce blood pressure and relax blood vessels (a preventative measure)
Elavil (amiyltriptaline)- a tricyclic anti-depressant (a possible preventative medication
Naprosyn (naproxin sodium) an anti-inflammatory pain reliever
Tigan (trimethobenzamide) an anti-histamine to treat nausea
Compazine (a phenothiazine) to treat vomiting
Narcotics such as Demerol, codeine, or morphine to reduce pain
Toradol IM to reduce pain and inflammation
Fiornal with or without codeine- a barbiturate medication to relieve vessel spasticity
Often, when acute episodes of vomiting are present, oral medication cannot be used. In these instances patients usually receive treatment from a physician or ER where IM or even IV injections are used. If vomiting is particularly severe dehydration is a consideration and IV fluids may be administered.
Many of the medicines prescribed for the treatment and/or prevention of migraine can have serious adverse reactions and side effects. Life style changes to reduce migraine "triggers" may be of real benefit as treatment once a migraine has started can be difficult. Non-drug preventative measures including recognizing and avoiding migraine "triggers" are important.
First and foremost, those who suffer from migraine need to receive proper medical care including diagnosis by a specialist. A variety of tests may be utilized including MRI, CT Scan, EEG, and blood analysis. Other causes for headache such as tumor or blood clot need to be identified or ruled out. Alternatives to drug therapy should be considered including behavior modification and biofeedback. Sometimes something as simple as pressure applied just in front of the ear on the side of head where pain is present can help relieve nerve inflammation and blood vessel congestion. In many cases, though, medicines are necessary although they are often ineffective or the side effects may be intolerable. One of the most serious "side effects" is the risk of long term addiction to narcotic painkillers used to dull the ache of migraine. Regular use of analgesic medication for headaches in general can create "rebound" headaches when patients decide to cut down. This is true of non-narcotic as well as narcotic pain relievers.
How then might adjunctive therapy with medical cannabis be of benefit to those victims of these terrible headaches? History shows that cannabis preparations in the 19th century were widely prescribed for migraine. In England and America, cannabis was the primary drug used to treat "sick headache". Today tinctures are available that are absorbed under the tongue (sublingual) and work in minutes. Inhalation through a vaporizer or smoking can produce even more rapid relief. Absorption of cannabis through the lungs or sublingually is independent of the GI tract so is unaffected by nausea or vomiting.
Cannabis contains a variety of cannabinoids that act synergistically to help relieve migraine symptoms. Cannabis is both anti-inflammatory and analgesic in addition to its known anti-emetic properties. Recent research demonstrates that cannabis is also a mild vasodilator that can lower blood pressure. Cannabis can provide relief from muscle cramps that can accompany migraine (particularly of the neck and shoulders). Patients whose headaches may be anxiety related need to be cautious about cannabis as it can aggravate symptoms of anxiety in some patients.
Dose is patient dependent as is easily controlled with either tincture or through the smoking or vaporization of flowers (bud). A dose as low as 3-4 drops of tincture or less than a gram of flowers is often sufficient providing long lasting action (4-6 hours). Patients are advised to consult with their physician about adjunctive therapy with cannabis and initiate a trial period of treatment with the physicians expressed approval. Cannabis works best when combined with a migraine prevention program and non-drug relief such as restricted light and sound when attacks occur.
Medical References: National Library of Medicine - PubMed
QUOTE (vince noir rock n roll star @ Jan 23 2009, 05:09 PM)
it would be nice if anyone who is trying the seasalt method of migraine relief posts here to describe the effects or outcome ..
Thanks for the info vince. I've had a Migrane headache now for two days. I'll certainly give it a try the next time that I go shopping.
Migranes do absolutely take your life away. I'm sat here mid day with my blackout curtains closed, the brighness on my screen turned down, and woe betide anyone or anything that has a noise level above 5db
Migranes are a neurological problem, whereas headaches are mainly stress related.
I have, in the past been bed ridden by migranes.
I hope that the big supermarkets sell organic sea salt because we have sod all other shops left here now, everywhere has closed down.
Vince? Was that it, nothing else, just a pinch os sea salt...or did it have some magic green stuff in there too?
I get bad headaches, Migraines and Cluster headaches and by hell do you now when it isn't just a headache. I cut out ALL Aspertame and MSG which gives me a migraine for 3 days I drink one cup of coffee every couple of days as I like it any more a migraine ensues. For the Cluster headaches I was put on a calcium channel blocker called Verapamil. So far I have had one cluster headache and have been on the pills 4 months they are the worst they only last about 3 hours max but they are hell. When i get a migraine I cant smoke I need to go to bed with a bucket ( usually after trying to fight it and throwing up anyway) and stay there usually after a very good quiet dark rest over night it has eased some by the morning but the main difference has been avoiding triggers, salami, pate, mature cheese, chocolate, caffiene the chemicals I mentioned earlier even citrus should be avoided, you need to find what your triggers are and totally cut them out. The difference for me is astounding, mainly I get them now when I slip up and eat that nice chocolate bar or have the extra cup of coffee,a popular brand of crisps are loaded with MSG last time I had some I had a migraine for 3 days straight. Slowly learning it isnt worth the hell that follows the extra treat.
I hope you can solve your problem as I know how awful it is and how desperate you get just to get some relief, If you do find a strain that eases them please let us know I would try it for the few I still get.
I hope you can solve your problem as I know how awful it is and how desperate you get just to get some relief, If you do find a strain that eases them please let us know I would try it for the few I still get.
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