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DrDuke
Got a few questions about Auto AK47 & Auto White Russian

Has anyone grown them before? How did the smoke compare to the Lowryder and Diesel Ryder? (Trying to establish if the smoke is stronger and by how much)

According to anything I have read online they are supposed to contain a lot more THC so in theory should be a better smoke but I wanted to ask those who have grown it for their opinion.

What is the yield like compared to the Diesel & Lowryder? Again I've read that it's better but wanted some first hand info from growers.

Lastly how long did you let them grow for? I've read 70 days but wanted to know if that's enough time or should they be allowed an extra week or 2 to fully maximize yield.





subwoofer
Well I'm just starting one AK47 auto - just hope it's female.

Can't really say much more than this: From what I've heard, the Auto AK47 say 70 days on the packet, but as are most strains, it will take a bit longer. I've heard to expect anything up to 11 weeks.

Your best bet is to get a cheap microscope to check when your plants are ready - once you get used to things, you learn to harvest without having to revert to the microscope - I just got my mic from maplins for £6 - does the job, but try to refrain from looking at every single trich every night, cos u have to get it right next to the trichs and it can cause damage


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Spliff Riff
Alright DrDuke,

Thanks for checking out my diary, this was my first successful grow so i had nothing to compare with however i did scrutinise the process and of course have been carrying out lots of quality testing yahoo.gif

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How did the smoke compare to the Lowryder and Diesel Ryder?


I also had one lowryder 2 the go, cant comment on the DR but the lowryder was a nice smoke but IMHO the high didnt last long. As for the smoke on the ak47 auto it is a very nice smoke, not too heavy but the high stays with you.

CODE
What is the yield like?


I got about 3 ounces off the one plant but i switched the lighting near the end to a 400w Dual Spectrum HPS (prior to that i was using diy lighting)

CODE
how long did you let them grow for? I've read 70 days but wanted to know if that's enough time or should they be allowed an extra week or 2 to fully maximize yield.


I let mine go for 78 days, and it probably could have done with a week longer. But i think this had to do with the lighting as mentioned above. I have another ak47 auto on the go at the moment and she has been on 400W hps from dot so i expect to see a much better yeild and will be leaving her for at least 85 days.

What lights are you using DrD?

Hope this helps

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erbivore9
I think that auto ak is a 12 weeker but only because it spends an extra 2 weeks growing branches before it start flowering. So you trade a couple of weeks for a bigger yeild.
DrDuke
QUOTE (Spliff Riff @ Jan 15 2009, 12:43 PM) *
I let mine go for 78 days, and it probably could have done with a week longer. But i think this had to do with the lighting as mentioned above. I have another ak47 auto on the go at the moment and she has been on 400W hps from dot so i expect to see a much better yeild and will be leaving her for at least 85 days.

What lights are you using DrD?


The info is much appreciated mate!

I only have a 250w HPS setup.

I've grown Lowryder2 & the Auto Diesel before, tend to agree with you about the Lowryder2. It's got a lovely flavour but like you said the high doesn't last very long. I really like it though as a wind-down smoke for the end of the night.

The Auto Diesel has a bit more flavour and I think the high is a little stronger.

I'm really eager to try this Auto AK47, glad to hear it's a heavier smoke. From what I've read it's the strongest of all the auto strains.

I bought feminized seeds and have 5 Auto AK47 & 5 Auto White Russians growing now, on day 73. I think I'll take your advice guys and give it an extra few weeks. It doesn't look anywhere near ready yet.

Spliff Riff 3 ounces from one auto flower plant is pretty impressive, congrats man!
billious
never smoked the auto version's of these strains, only one half, so I can't comment I suppose, but I am dubious that an auto cross is going cut the mustard in comparison with the real thing, so I am curious as to why choose auto x's over the ruderalis free strains? smoking AK-47 myself tonight.. very nice.... and I hope your auto is its equal... but I am honestly interested in how does yield, strength & time balance for autos against non-autos?
GrowAlone
I am in the process of sorting my drobe out for my next grow,

Mate of mine has given me a couple of diesel ryder seeds from the joint dr's, anyone got an opinion on these?

(don't mean to high jack your thread DrDuke matey lol.gif just did a search and this un popped up lol.gif)

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mr.b.mikio
I grew lr2s then some auto w/russian x hindu kush, and auto ak47. the russians were the nicest. ak was a good smoke but the lowryder gene definately decreces potency. dont get me wrong, the lr2s were nice enough but could have been better. got on a varage about 1/2 oz off each. when I think about it now though, all i had to to was wait 1 more month and id have had fully grown bigger plants and much more weed, not crossed with lowryder.
the autoflower thing is a cool idea but in practice it seems a bit pointless.
DrDuke
QUOTE (billious @ Jan 16 2009, 12:20 AM) *
never smoked the auto version's of these strains, only one half, so I can't comment I suppose, but I am dubious that an auto cross is going cut the mustard in comparison with the real thing, so I am curious as to why choose auto x's over the ruderalis free strains? smoking AK-47 myself tonight.. very nice.... and I hope your auto is its equal... but I am honestly interested in how does yield, strength & time balance for autos against non-autos?


The simple answer is it doesn't cut the mustard compared to decent strains, just my opinion of coarse. Same goes for yield, I have no doubt you'll get much much better yields from a quality strain.

I've been doing the auto strains for one simple reason, I'm a newbie and I personally feel the auto strains are about as simple as you can get when it comes to growing.

The auto strains are really fast to grow, which was great for the first grow because I was impatient and needed some smoke, so in that respect I would advice Lowryder 2 for anyone doing their first grow IF they are impatient and can't wait the extra month or more to do a quality strain.

All I can say is I now feel ready to start doing the quality strains, I've finished my apprenticeship smile.gif Plus I'm happy that I've tried all the main auto strains.

Just a few other reasons I thought of for doing the auto strains.

2) Limited time frame (E.g. Lets say you only have 3 months until rents up etc)

3) Limited height, auto strains don't take up a lot of room (Of coarse I realise this depends on pot sizes, light setup etc) plus I guess you could argue that you could just do a scrog with a decent strain.

QUOTE (GrowAlone @ Jan 16 2009, 06:59 PM) *
I am in the process of sorting my drobe out for my next grow,

Mate of mine has given me a couple of diesel ryder seeds from the joint dr's, anyone got an opinion on these?

(don't mean to high jack your thread DrDuke matey lol.gif just did a search and this un popped up lol.gif)


More than welcome mate!

Totally depends what you are used to smoking, it's just not going to be as good as a decent strain but it's a lot better than most dealer weed plus you know it hasn't been sprayed with any crap.

I've grown the Diesel Ryder before and it's a decent wee smoke, lovely flavour. I have a few friends who are used to stronger strains who loved the flavour of the Diesel Ryder. I find the high very similar to the Lowryder 2, not that strong and doesn't last that long. Think it took me about 75 - 80 days in total.

I'll say this much about the Lowryder & Diesel, if you smoke a lot of weed you'll go through this auto strain stuff like it's water, it's just not strong enough to get you that really stoned feeling. Totally depends what you're looking for from a smoke though. If you enjoy a chilled out, light effecting kinda weed then you'll probably like it.

After this auto AK47 & Auto White Russian grow I don't think I'll be doing these auto flower strains again. Although I'll wait to try this Auto Ak47 before confirming that cool.gif
DrDuke
QUOTE (mr.b.mikio @ Jan 17 2009, 12:51 PM) *
I grew lr2s then some auto w/russian x hindu kush, and auto ak47. the russians were the nicest. ak was a good smoke but the lowryder gene definately decreces potency. dont get me wrong, the lr2s were nice enough but could have been better. got on a varage about 1/2 oz off each. when I think about it now though, all i had to to was wait 1 more month and id have had fully grown bigger plants and much more weed, not crossed with lowryder.


With any of the auto strains I've got about 1 Oz per plant.

I don't regret growing them but you're right about the Lowryder. It's ok but if we are talking strength wise it's not a great deal better than dealer weed (Better than nothing)

QUOTE (mr.b.mikio @ Jan 17 2009, 12:51 PM) *
the autoflower thing is a cool idea but in practice it seems a bit pointless.


smile.gif It's not in the same league as quality strains
skunky1982
QUOTE (DrDuke @ Jan 14 2009, 04:53 PM) *
Got a few questions about Auto AK47 & Auto White Russian

Has anyone grown them before? How did the smoke compare to the Lowryder and Diesel Ryder? (Trying to establish if the smoke is stronger and by how much)

According to anything I have read online they are supposed to contain a lot more THC so in theory should be a better smoke but I wanted to ask those who have grown it for their opinion.

What is the yield like compared to the Diesel & Lowryder? Again I've read that it's better but wanted some first hand info from growers.

Lastly how long did you let them grow for? I've read 70 days but wanted to know if that's enough time or should they be allowed an extra week or 2 to fully maximize yield.

i have grew regular lowryders for a while now but have changed this one to feminied lowryder 2 an you would think it was a completly different strain my others were all small an compact an these seem to be twice the size an lanky im used to little xmas trees whats happening help also i have never been able to get hold of the ak47 or white russian crosses as they ar5e always sold out lol.gif
skunky1982
QUOTE (DrDuke @ Jan 18 2009, 08:29 PM) *
QUOTE (mr.b.mikio @ Jan 17 2009, 12:51 PM) *
I grew lr2s then some auto w/russian x hindu kush, and auto ak47. the russians were the nicest. ak was a good smoke but the lowryder gene definately decreces potency. dont get me wrong, the lr2s were nice enough but could have been better. got on a varage about 1/2 oz off each. when I think about it now though, all i had to to was wait 1 more month and id have had fully grown bigger plants and much more weed, not crossed with lowryder.


With any of the auto strains I've got about 1 Oz per plant.

I don't regret growing them but you're right about the Lowryder. It's ok but if we are talking strength wise it's not a great deal better than dealer weed (Better than nothing)

QUOTE (mr.b.mikio @ Jan 17 2009, 12:51 PM) *
the autoflower thing is a cool idea but in practice it seems a bit pointless.


smile.gif It's not in the same league as quality strains

i dont agree sorry you must be doin something wrong mine is potent sticky covered in crystals an gets ya high as hell lol.gif
GrowAlone
Cheers Duke mate!!

I just wanted some one's POV on the diesel ryders! so Cheers!

I do like a mellow smoke like, but these seeds were pawned off on me lol.gif, just to tie me over till i can get myself some sharksbreath and L.A. confidential seeds! (bit short of moola, you know lol.gif) so i've got 9 weeks (or more) till i get them, then i'll be lovin it! yahoo.gif

v.gif GA
Spliff Riff
Im with Skunky on this one, my new grow also has some auto's going and they are chunky, sticky and smell lovely. I will be chopping one back in a week or so at that point i will post yeild results in this topic, but i am thinking a good 2-3 oz of one little plant

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DrDuke
No worries guys! We are allowed to disagree spliff.gif
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