Hi all.. was just curious as the other day i was in a headshop and saw a guy pay TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE POUNDS for some pukka seeds "G13"

I know the pukka insanity but damn.. must be good shit.. have heard some decent things about it.. What's the best cheapish G13 hack we can get?

Hi

Was lucky enough to be given a g13 clone by a guy whose been growing it for 25 years.
Its unlike any plant Ive ever grown.
The clone stank my house out.
Here it is in a 16ltr bucket just before flowering.

I write this not as an expert on G13, but as someone who was extremely interested in this variety due to is origins and legendary potency. I made it my business to understand who had some legitimate G13, and who had some mystery varietys labeled G13 but could offer nothing of substance to back up their claims of having such a variety. From what I understand, you can acquire hybrids legitimately related to the G13 from Sensi Seeds(G13xHashplant), Soma Seeds(G13xHaze male) and Mr. Nice seeds(G13xSkunk#1, G13xWidow). From reading the forums for years, it is generally agreed upon that the Sensi Seeds G13xHashplant aka Mr.Nice has lost some of its guster in recent years. Somas G13xHaze male is said to have been found in a small handful of seeds given to him by Ed Rosenthal which were in turn gifted to Ed by Neville(as I understand the story to be). This was a Haze dominant G13 hybrid, but non the less it has some legitimate claim in my eyes if the story is true. And there is the Mr. Nice G13 hybrids, which are infact worked on by Shantibaba and Neville here at the Mr. Nice camp. I dont think anything else needs to be said about this revelation.

Now as someone who wanted to put his money into the sure bet that what I was getting was G13, I did alot of research before looking to purchase the variety. Anytime you are looking to purchase a variety, you should do research first. I pretty much arrived to the conclusions I am stating here in this thread years ago, as it was clear where my best shot was at obtaining legitimate G13. Decyphering all of the propaganda out there on the net can be hard, there are alot of people who claim to have something but yet rely on nothing more then hearsay as evidence to their varietys supposid origin. As someone spending some money on a variety, hearsay isnt good enough for me. I want to know who has what, where they got it and if its worth the money they are asking for it. That to me is a perfectly logical line of thinking when considering a purchase on anything in reality.

There are varietys such as the LG13 and the Airbourne G13 which are said to be the real deal G13 cuts. But neither of these varietys can be authenticated as being legitimate, and in particular the LG13 bares little to no resemblence to the original G13 hyrbids. While the Airbourne G13 is said to be the G13xNorthern Lights hybrid Neville released years ago, again there is no solid evidence other then visual inspection to authenticate these claims. And there are folks who have varietys they call G13, sometimes multiple unrelated varietys they have labled G13 which infact are not related to the original G13 what so ever. Its just a name they picked, to identify an above average specimen. This is the case of Pacific G13, which I discussed at length with her privately and the information presented above were the results of my inquiry. There is also the Socal G13
Quote:
Another semi-known G-13 is the SoCal G-13, which is said by a few to be better than the pacific/airbourne cuts, but the SoCal G-13 is a highly guarded clone kept in small circles supposedly, and you probably wont see it on the market anytime soon - unless someone like sugenite do some crosses like with the pure kush and sell it for 1000. Good luck with that though.
which many claim to be the real deal as well, but yet have nothing to offer other then hearsay about the authenticity of these varietys. While they may infact be good, there is little evidence to support their lineage.

In conclusion there are alot of companies and individuals claiming to have something they do not. Some of these claims, while hearsay only are seen by those making them as true. While others are simply making stories up in an effort to sell a variety quicker, or in order to gain some type of fame or furtune by possessing something which is deemed rare and elusive. There are people who have something very special marijuana wise, but use the G13 monicur in an effort to promote their variety as something it is not. There are others who just want to take advantage of the legend of G13 to sell seeds quicker as well, it is up to you the consumer to decifer who has what and if it is worth spending the next 3-4 months of your life growing. But all of the varietys on the market that have legitimate status can be traced back to Nevilles G13

G13 History
The G-13 clone was discovered by a guy named Sandy Wienstien. A founding member of Sacred Seeds, Breeder of Early Girl, He also discovered the Bay Area Durban Poison clone (the same clone All dutch DP is based on). During the mid 70's Sandy W and members of the Bay Area (SK#1) group were working in cooperation on some of their afgans. A couple of the plants intro'd early into both programs brought a near fatal vunerabilty to grey mold. Both programs had to backtrack while new afgans were found to replace the culled plants, as well as beginig an extensive tourure testing program for the remaning stock. Sandy had a group of friends, growers who lived in his area (S.Ark-N Miss) One of these friends was a grower, and first year botany student who had,
by shear accident, landed a job working with Carlton Turner , who ran the US gov. pot program @ U of Miss. Sandy's friends job? using the early,rather primitive tests they had at the time to test Afganica plants for THC level! As Sandy's Early Girl program in the MW and the Skunk#1 people in Cali were on a desperate search for Afganicas. Sandy enlisted his friend to send him anything "interesting". Sandy's friend sent him 23 plants in all, and to differetiate these from his regular Afgani stock, which he labeled A1, A2 etc., Sandy designated his
"government" plants G1-23. None of these were used in any Sacred Seeds breeding program. Sandy saved only a very few of these G clones, among these was G-13. He was to busy and never had a chance to do anything with it, so it stayed on the shelf. But he saved it knowing it was a special plant, a "sport". In its pure form it was apparently not very pleasant smoke, tasting like lawn clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces (fecal flavors are common in pure afganicas) with a lovelly aftertaste of burning tires. The shear power could not be
denied however and that's what made the strain's rep