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Psycho18
Hello,

I looked at wakenbake's thread and saw myself, lol.gif. I too, have decided i will not succumb to the urge to purchase any more bagweed from anyone. I want to grow my own, and I have wanted to grow my own for the last 2 years. I had been wanting to do an indoor grow but unfortunately the people I live with will not support this idea at all. But now im thinking, fuck it, I want to grow something. So i decided I will take full advantage of the local woods (all 3 of them.) to find a few nice, hidden away spots where I can grow a few plants. I dont need to turn out metric tons of the stuff, but I do intend on making a large enough amount of good bud for me to cure and keep throughout the dead season (non-grow season of autumn and winter.) and to keep me going until I can grow again the following year.

I have a lot of questions to ask, as the only growing I've done before was in South Africa, and that was as simple as finding a nice hidden spot, with good sunlight, clearing out a small area and planting a few seeds, and then checking on them once or twice a week until they were ready to be dried. (Transkei and Durban Poison = for the win. we spent a few months of cross-growing our own wierd strain.. grew a few DP males with a few Transkei females and turned out some really wicked stuff, I called it Transkei Poison. I wish I still had a few of the seeds. sad.gif but I digress.)

Anyway, I was hoping I could recieve some guidance in the beautiful art of cannabis cultivation within a guerilla grow situation..

- When scoping out a potential grow site, what is best to look for? I mean everything - security wise, geographically, what is the best soil to look for, etc?

- I was thinking I might go up to the woods over the winter period to move a few holly trees and build a small enclosure of holly in a random designated area. I feel this is best for security. What do you think?

- Is quantity of sites best or quantity of bud per site best? I was thinking of 2 plants per site, maximum of 4 sites.

- I see people growing their bud within chickenwire - is this a good idea?

- I noticed in the Guerilla Warfare thread by wakenbake that he put down some "coca-coir" for the site. Should I do the same? How much would I need for 2 plants per site over 4 sites?

- Any good security tips?

- When growing - would it be best to grow a few plants, veg them out, and then plant them? Or should I just incubate a few seeds, and then plant them? For security reasons I cant really veg the plants in my own abode, however I might be able to work something out. What would you guys suggest?

- And finally, for now, what would be the ideal first grow outdoor plant? I want something that will be rather hardy and resilient, with good THC levels (13%+) and good yeild (at least 4 ounces a plant would be fine.) but I cant seem to find the right sort of thing for me. I dont mind indica's although I would like to try grow a good Sativa, like a DP variation of some sort. I currently live in the southeast of the UK and it can get cold + wet in the summer months. So I need a good plant. What would be the best suggestions?

Thanks for your time. Im sure most of my questions can be asked by searching the forum but I wanted to start a thread in which I could come back to ask more questions as I move along..
420Farmer
It sounds like you haven't done that much reading up. Read as many guerilla grow diaries as you can and also read the pinned threads regarding protection of your plants.

Are you in the uk?

best of luck!
Psycho18
QUOTE (Mystery @ Dec 7 2008, 09:09 PM) *
It sounds like you haven't done that much reading up. Read as many guerilla grow diaries as you can and also read the pinned threads regarding protection of your plants.

Are you in the uk?

best of luck!



yep, as i mentioned before im in the southeast. I have read up quite a lot but I just wanted to try get some concrete answers to some of my questions. smile.gif thanks for your tips though, I will be reading ahead! biggrin.gif
Psycho18
hmmm after reading back on my initial post it does make me look like a complete noob. xD

for the chicken wire question - i should have asked if it would be the best deterrent or if anything else would prove to be better. I have done some reading on the subject and been told the best all round defence is to take chicken wire, plant your plant, place the chicken wire around the planting, and then bury it at least 20cm deep. added to this, to help get rid of the slug problem, people have said that rapping the bottom of the chickenwire in plastic wrap before you submerge it (so it covers around 40cm - 20cm buried, 20cm exposed) is also a good method. Although im not 100% sure of this.. anyway, could someone tell me if chickenwire is the best of the best or if there is anything else that would be more stealthy but still effective?
smeagol
hi mate .. try reading the pinned protection thread on the top of the guerrilla growing page yinyang.gif
420Farmer
Sounds like you have the basic idea. Id say use the green stuff as its less reflective to helicopters etc
Psycho18
Hello all.

Well, the funniest thing happened today. I decided to keep this grow to myself, for security reasons and what not, because i just want to grow a bit of bud for myself. Anyway, my mate phones me up whilst im walking out of work today, and he reckons "Dude, i've been thinking.. shall we try an outdoor grow next year?"

...

i lolled so hard, because i had been thinking about this to myself for a while now and it turns out my best mate is on the same wavelength. Anyway, we made some agreements:

- 3 plots. 4 plants per plot.
- all costs will be shared equally.
- bud will be shared 50/50 at the end.
- i am in charge of the grow, he is in charge of the drying / curing.

Varieties are as follows:

Passion #1 by Dutch Passion
Durban Poison by Dutch Passion
Artic Sun by Flying Dutchman

We want to mix it up, and plant as many as possible incase something goes wrong and we lose a plot / plants / etc. The upside is that if it does go well, we'll be looking at a large amount of bud by the end of the summer. Downside is, I wouldnt know what to do with that much bud! ermm.gif I intend to germinate the seeds at home and let them veg slightly in small pots, before potting them in april/may.

We are going to scope out some areas over the next weekend. we dont want to keep them anywhere near each other - this does mean its harder for maintenance, but it also means our security is in a better shape. we are aiming for several large bramble patches near some farmland a few miles away. its mostly south facing with no nearby tree cover, although we might try put together the third spot in some woods a few miles away. right now its all planning and preperation before we go find the spots. once we can confirm we have several good locations, we will clean them out, do some soil tests, and slowly start preparing the areas for spring. (checking pH levels, digging out any clay, laying soil and fertilizer, etc.)

I will be updating this thread once I have a few pictures of decent grow sites. Has anyone got any tips for me? What do you think of the strain varieties? Is it a good idea to team up with someone else who is also a keen toker and is relatively trustworthy?
wakenbaker
QUOTE (Psycho18 @ Dec 7 2008, 08:47 PM) *
I looked at wakenbake's thread and saw myself,


blushing.gif Im 24 and the most suprising thing to me is that I havnt done it before. I love going on missions through woods, streams, hills, farms, I love growing flowers and veg and i love weed. But before I found uk420 I didnt even know you could succesfully grow weed in this country. All the best, I'll answer some of your Q's to the best of my kowledge:

- When scoping out a potential grow site, what is best to look for? I mean everything - security wise, geographically, what is the best soil to look for, etc?

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?s=&a...t&p=1423461

- I was thinking I might go up to the woods over the winter period to move a few holly trees and build a small enclosure of holly in a random designated area. I feel this is best for security. What do you think?

I always thought about "constructing" a grow site by finding a good site and then strategicaly planting hawthorn/blackthorn & brambles. But this would take a few years and its far easier to find somewhere that is good and clearing an area than the other way around. but if you fancy giving it a go then do!

- Is quantity of sites best or quantity of bud per site best? I was thinking of 2 plants per site, maximum of 4 sites.

Well my main concern is landowners reporting to cops and thieves. So more sites with less in each is my preference.

- I see people growing their bud within chickenwire - is this a good idea?

Chicken wire protects your plants rabbits and deer. It is essential for young plants. burrying it and bending it over stops them burrying under it but you want it high enough to stop them climbing over or being munched by deer. chicken wire and plastic wrap will not stop slugs. For them little bastards you need copper wire/crushed egg shells/oats/slug pellets ect. (I will use all 4)

- I noticed in the Guerilla Warfare thread by wakenbake that he put down some "coca-coir" for the site. Should I do the same? How much would I need for 2 plants per site over 4 sites?

My coca choir has ph 6.5 and decent amounts of NPK, so the advantage is that its light to carry to my site and I wont need to further prep my soil. However you need more than I've put down so far. It is efectivley replacing my soil allthough I'm going to mix it in with the native soil to prevent "sump" action. Im only putting it on one of my sites though to see how well it works compared to my other sites.

- Any good security tips?

Look for litter and orther evidence of humans. once prepared the sites cover them with leaves and cut trees to disguise it, dont visit sites unless absolutley necessary, dont tell anyone your growing.

- When growing - would it be best to grow a few plants, veg them out, and then plant them? Or should I just incubate a few seeds, and then plant them? For security reasons I cant really veg the plants in my own abode, however I might be able to work something out. What would you guys suggest?

Your plants will have a better chance of surviving and will get bigger if you start em off indoors. However if like me you cant do it at home then its better not to involve anyone else. Check out archangels grow for how he did it using mini greenhouse on site.

Just read your last post. I have a friend I trust and I know hes grown indoor and in his garden. I've smoked his weed and it was the best weed I ever smoked. However I've choosen not to tell him about my geurrilla grow as who knows if he might tell lots of other people about it (he didnt exactly keep his homegrown very secret). So my advice is to keep your grow to yourself. But its totaly up to you, it would probably be nice to share somthing like this but thats what I do on here.

Good luck with your grow

Wake N Bake
Psycho18
Hello,

A quick update: Myself and my mate found what we think is a viable site. Its located in a large thick patch of bushes, probably about half the size of a football field. Its in the middle of no-where (well, its near enough some public footpaths, but impossible to get to, and not really worth looking at for the average passerby, considering we havent even managed to find a way into the center of this patch lol.gif.) and its well hidden. A small access road for a local farmer runs near the patch, although as I said, the likelyhood of anyone going in there is so small that it seems like a good place. Its south facing, on a small slope. I have attached 2 pics below of the entrance to the patch. We will be going up with machetes to try carve a stealthy leopard path into the center (leopard path = crawl path) and then cut back small individual patches within the center to provide a better grow area and to allow more sunlight to filter through.

We estimate it will recieve at least 10 hours of direct sunlight in the summer, and still have several hours of non-direct sunlight as well. Although the patch leaves a lot to be desired, it seems to be the most stealthy of sites that doesnt have any human influence. (several other excellent sites were ruined by the discovery of baiting traps set by a local farmer. cry.gif )

Once we have cleared out the respective site, we intend to dig down 2 ft of dirt, and replace it with a specially formulated grow medium, comprising mostly of canna coco coir, B,F&B, quality PH neutral topsoil, and then make sure we test the grow medium and try make sure its somewhere in the region of 7.0 - 8.0ph. We are going up over the next 2 weeks to go and cut everything back and slowly start preparing the grow areas. so far im thinking of spreading the plants out over a large area, to a total of 6 plants. the idea would be to have 2 of each of the previously mentioned strains growing in this patch. its a lot of plants but until we can find more grow spots, we'll have to put our eggs in 1 basket.

Some pics of the entrance to the site:







As you can see, its pretty densely packed with a lot of growth. the ground seems very muddy, which is a problem for security. But, directly into that bush growth, is the center of this area, which we intend on cutting a small set of paths into.

Just a few questions -


- What do you guys think of my proposed grow site? I havent exactly got a lot of pics of the actual center of the site, but so far, based on the description, do you think I have a possible winner?
- I want to order my seeds online. What sort of security risks could this mean? what websites are safest and cheapest to purchase the three varieties I've chosen?

Stickybud73
i'd go for a more remote clearing. this look like the edge of trees, i.e no morning or evening sun - all depends on which aspect it's on. make damn sure it's south facing or you may end up moldy. you'd be surprised how easy it is to grow in the open, just keep it well spaced, ganja blends in with the nettles.

do as much research as you can these boards a full of good ideas, mainly in the threads. don't go crazy burying fences, egg shells, copper tapes, ph checks etc. look at magoos grow, and you can just dig a hole and full it with compost and dirt. i did.

i'm also not in favour of getting anyone else involved. budy or not [just ask marcos]. try to compromise with your mate. just go halves on the seeds, then you can both find remote spots and double the chances of a decent harvest. do not disclose your garden whereabouts, even here with photos.

for example, i could find wakenbakers approximate geographical location, using some advanced ip tracelog utilities, and these boards. i could then print hi-res images from google earth within 20 mins drive, and look for spooky houses, blue plastic feeders, grafitied underpasses, streams and what not. rule being, keep the info you post here to a minimum. [also a bloody unlikely thing to have happen, but still possible...]. sorry wakenbaker if you take offence, i'm just using you as an example. respect. guitar.gif

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peace, and happy growing in 09!!

lets hope we get less rain this summer, eh?

guitar.gif spliff.gif

wakenbaker
QUOTE (Stickybud73 @ Dec 21 2008, 10:26 PM) *
don't go crazy burying fences, egg shells, copper tapes, ph checks etc. look at magoos grow, and you can just dig a hole and full it with compost and dirt. i did.


I'll be putting out very young plants so I will need as much wildlife protection gunsmilie.gif as possible. If your starting your plants indoor and moving them out the bigger they are the more they can look after themselves.

QUOTE (Stickybud73 @ Dec 21 2008, 10:26 PM) *
for example, i could find wakenbakers approximate geographical location, using some advanced ip tracelog utilities, and these boards. i could then print hi-res images from google earth within 20 mins drive, and look for spooky houses, blue plastic feeders, grafitied underpasses, streams and what not. rule being, keep the info you post here to a minimum. [also a bloody unlikely thing to have happen, but still possible...]. sorry wakenbaker if you take offence, i'm just using you as an example. respect. guitar.gif


Wow I didnt know that was possible thanks for the heads up stickybud. Luckilly the spooky house, blue feeders and graffitti are all near spots I chose not to grow in. So can you tell what village/town/city is closest to me? Peace

WB
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