hello....

got a bit of a problem, went to check on my girls yesterday... and one of them was badly wilted... i have 6 tribal vision in nft.. thought it was the pump playing up... checked that, and increased flow slightly, didnt check temps though as i was in a rush went back in the morn at lights out.. and most of them were wilted checked thermometer and temps had reached 37 deg... i had forgot to open the window i use to regulate temps...... its been 9 hours now and they are still wilting..... i am 5 weeks into flower... will they recover, does anyone have suggestions or shall i just cut my losses and start again....temps are back to normal now....

i am mega upset at this as it has taken me ages to beat a root rot problem, thought things were going too well...... anyway any help much appreciated... thanks in advance

steelfish....

are you sure they aint overwatered , seems as you turned the pump up


got any pics mate

they were like that before i turned the pump up..... so that cant be the prob.... thinking it was the temps.... but a bit strange wilting in nft........ heres a pic of how they look now... bit miffed as they were lovely a few days ago... filled the room.. so healthy looking.....

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whats the roots looking like mate ?

Toast, chip's, word's like that come to mind. They even look like this is'nt the 1st time they've wilted?

here are the pics of the roots...... this is the first time they have wilted... but i had not been able to check them for a day or 2 before i found them like this.... temps were high, but not too high to start with 30 deg.... leaving that bloody window shut sent them rocketing.....


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any help or advice would be great...

thanks steelfish....

Whats the Cf like mate? .....test sample the cf from your cubes. If your concentrations have become too 'unforgiving', water will be pushed [diffusion] out of the plant back into the tank in a very noticeable way .
Don't know if this helps, all the best.



e2a. roots look fine

looks like theres alot of water on that tray mate

they dont look dried up look abit waterlogged to me

jiffa

they look like that because my first thought was the pump... going to back off the flow again hope that helps recovery...(if they will recover)

cheezy

never knew that could happen... how do i go about sampling the cubes,, also do you think a flush with water and a fresh tank of nutes will help..??



thanks for the speedy replies guys , this is absolutely gutting........

steelfish.....

if your sure they wilted through lack of water and they were like that for a while , i dont fancy they're chances

sucked out some solution using a measuring syringe from 2 of the blocks.... the E.C matched the tank at 1.3.... so the only cause i can think of is the stupidly high temps.... if anyone else has any ideas please let me know......

and jiffa cheers for the brutal honesty... so you reckon i should just cut my losses and start again..... cant beleive i have done this after coming so far

any advice appreciated and thanks again for the replys...

steelfish....

e2a... i have recently upped the strengh from E.C of 1.... as they were eating it down to 0.7 quite quickly... do you tink this may have soething to do with it...????

mmmm... sorry i couldn't help mate. What about N deficiency, when did you stop feeding 'grow'? ...or 'airflow' ....you said temps were a problem .......!



e2a: what is the solution temp?

airflow might have something to do with it , suppose there wasnt any with the window being closed


if they were wilted for more than 24hrs

ive had high temps before but would of thought they would of just drunk more water resulting in a high ec

was theroot mat dry when you spotted them

cheezy

airflow is usually fine when i remember to open the window of the room my growroom vents into.... solution temp in the tank is 21deg....... they are still on a small amount of grow was going to switch over completely this weekend with a fresh tank....

jiffa

i would have thought that they would have drunk more as well.... rootmat was fine i think, didnt have time to check when i first discovered the prob... it was a quick peek before work.... but the pump was still on so should have been ok....


thanks again guys.. thought i had it nailed this grow.... this is soul destroying

steelfish....

id try and get some air flowing through and turn the pump back to a trickle and keep your fingers crossed

if they aint looking better by 2moro i doubt they will

...just noticed that you have no support netting in your room Steelfish, or is it unnoticeable from the photo?
plus your plants for their age appear a little thin on the stem, and perhaps a little elongated [ i think you say in your profile you only have around 5ft of height] .....just wondering, with most things being discounted if they aren't giving up the ghost so to speak:( ... hope somebody can provide you with a healthy alternative mind, not nice going through what you are, been there man

... just thinking as well that maybe the root system has been left unable to deal with the 'work' that flowering entails as they do look at little weak. Sorry mate. Sincerely hope i'm wrong.

your right in your observations , there is no netting... a friend of mine is growing this exact strain. from the same mother.... and his are way bigger than mine, and is a good 4 weeks ahead of me, and seem to be fine, and his stems seem abnormally thin too.
they have only started to look weak since the wilt.... before they were looking very healthy..(only about 3/4 days ago). thats why it has surprised me...
going to do what jiffy advises in the hope of them picking up.... maybe having the window closed created an unhealthy environment.. as the room it vents into is a celler (the source of most of my other fungal/viral/bacterial problems in the past.. not the best environment... but you work with what you have i suppose...) thanks again guys for helping me bottom this out...

if anyone has anything new please dont hesitate to reply

cheers

steelfish....

hey steelfish looking at root pics, seems alot of water pooling in tray. do u have a run off on ur tank as it is only meant to be a film of water. u got an airstone to oxygenate tank? they need to breathe well too! im a bit of a noobi so may be way off the mark, but just some suggestions m8. hope u get ur babys back

aurora

the excess water is from me panicking and increasing the flow after the wilt... all back to normal now, and i do have a couple of airstones in tank.... cheers for the replys

steelfish....