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CaptainStoner
I'm new to this section of forums so bear with me lol.gif

I've been thinking about doing a small outdoor run next year, probably auto flowerers early in the year then flower off some proper plants later on in the year.. but I do want to be doing it covered as we get plenty of rain here, it's exposed.. and it'll help me keep smell down.

So i've been looking at greenhouses, we don't have one at the moment, and the budget won't stretch to a proper structured polycarbonate building, they're like £300.

I've been looking at these frame + plastic tent greenhouses, both clear plastic ones, and gardman green plastic ones. The clear plastic ones seem to be hard to find in anything bigger than a 3 tier rack, but the green plastic jobbies (its supposed to diffuse light) do come in relatively large sizes, quite cheaply.

Dunno about this green plastic.. it will be WONDERFUL for stealth, but will it not block a lot of light getting to the plants? are these green plastic ones any good or should i be looking towards a clear model? I do plan to grow some other stuff in there besides buds but that's the main idea thumbsup.gif
toastedsuppy
try the range,i was in my local range sunday and they had real big clear plastic greenhouse not many left though but cheap due to time of yr wink.gif
chiliman
there all right to veg in but the colour seems to stop light in flower bit stretchy but it does work unsure.gif
GREENDUP
Captain, its a great idea ! After seeing friends use greenhouses like you described and trying the clear plastic three tier jobs, i came to the conclusion that its best to take the frames from these greenhouses and cover them yourself with a stealth material that lets in the light but provides enough ventilation to avoid the condensation build up and budrot that occurs without. cool.gif
CaptainStoner
QUOTE(GREENDUP @ Nov 5 2008, 11:13 AM) *
Captain, its a great idea ! After seeing friends use greenhouses like you described and trying the clear plastic three tier jobs, i came to the conclusion that its best to take the frames from these greenhouses and cover them yourself with a stealth material that lets in the light but provides enough ventilation to avoid the condensation build up and budrot that occurs without. cool.gif


The day you find this super material, let the world know.

I think that green shit is about as close as we're going to get. if it stops light enough to make an impact on normal plants stretch in flower then it'll probably stunt lowryders, worth a try i guess as they are ultra stealth.. but i think the clear ones are probably a better bet for yield/quality. There are plastic films that are opaque in one direction, but i think they also cut out light..

i like the idea of the green plastic due to its stealth, i guess the question is how much light do they cut out and how much is it going to affect the end product
smokeybadger
hi guys,last year me wifey and myself bagged a cheapy 29.99 greenhous(hobby) from woolies!i whacked in a full moon from the sativa seed bank(b'coz i am greedy) and the damn thing did the job just to small for a large,no feckinhuge sativa rofl.gif but with a small indica variety would be fine i should think
leroy
if you check out the last few posts of my sig you'll see the green hoiuse i used this year, worked well, earlier posts are the small 3 tier ones, small i know but i did have 12.5 oz from 1 plant last year so although small, worth a looky
the large green one this year was sound, i forced them this time so i didn't have any in there longer than 12-14 weeks all in but they weren't any diff to the others, all grew at the same rate and, in fact, i thought they flowered quicker under the green than the clear poly.
lokrath
i think there perfect to be honest ive got a onr i use for my starting veg had a few plants in it this year too
infact ive still got one in there now battling the elements and it still looks great to be honest
i was expecting it to die but a bit of styrafoam and some hay and its going great
i think ill get a bigger one for next year

Weedsmoker
Yup all good BUT had a few bud rot issues due to lack on ventilation. Had door almost fully zipped closed due to nosy neighbors which was no good. Overcome problem by putting holes in side of greenhouse.

Bit knackered after 1 grow but for £30 on fleebay who cares!!!

Weeds
CaptainStoner
I got nosy ass neighbours but i reckon i could leave a foot at the bottom of the door open for ventilation.. I'll figure something out for holes at the top. The gh will be having other shit like lettuce, rocket, taters etc in it and around it in the garden i'm going to plant lavender and grow peas and cherry toms. perhaps something else legal but SMELLY. Our neighbours are nosy enough to notice and ask about the pipe we put along a fence on the other side of the garden to keep the area around the garage dry.. They will ask what i'm doing and i'm just gonna say its a recession beater. In fact i may even lay my groundwork (lies) before setting it up. I have to do at least one monster.. probably a seedsman white widow.. teh cheeze = too smelly for the garden here in suburbia thumbsup.gif
kopchoir
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now this does the trick. trust me. got from local garden centre but is available on ebay. 2 front panels, 1 mesh for super ventage and 1 on each side. is only 3 ft tall but if you grow along it!! sorround it with all bran flakes slugs love'em until they die, ha ha. cos of all the vents odour can be a problem, until you get to the garden centre and buy a load of chamomile, lavender and marigold seeds to throw about, cant smell shit mate. good luck
kopchoir
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CaptainStoner
Yeah mate thats exactly what i was looking at.. or the model up from that which is supposed to be quite big more like a shed size.. i think its like 4'6" on a side or something like that.

Will consider it certainly although its more likely to be for something like spuds or strawberries now as i have some serious beans on the way, not one to grow outside fo sho. Do fancy some garden grown veg to make into munch though thumbsup.gif
kopchoir
The only problem, and its a biggy!, i've found with the bigger ones is their uncanny ability to imitate kites! plenty of tent to catch air but not much weight 2floor area ratio to keep the sods on the ground. I tied mine to the fence luckily with a guy rope but was still hovering 12 ft above next doors back garden, thus uncovering the very thing it was hiding. not happened with one of these smaller ones to me yet, but then again you cant fit an awful lot in them either
CaptainStoner
Heh all tents have that problem, tis a case of placing them right here cuz it is quite windy..

I'm sure if we can peg and keep down an old school canvas 5man tent in a north wales storm, one of those plastic things will be okay.. even if i have to wire the poles to the caravan and set some pegs in rofl.gif

worth a try, i think.. hope i got enough cash early in the new year to get a pack of LR2 or something like em.. auto ak etc, nice jar fillers thumbsup.gif
kopchoir
let me know how you get on.
leroy
i put 4x9 concrete blocks on the base, 1 in each corner and i tied the frame together with string





after the kite problem sufaced blushing.gif
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kopchoir
I eventually decided to bury the bottom 8 inches, that seemed to work to. although the blocks is a damn site easier. i'll be having that!
CaptainStoner
Yeah we've got some old paving slabs that should hold a tent down.. Got a big outdoor grow planned for next year.. am picking out of this list so far

Garlic, tomatos, potatoes, carrots, peas, rocket, lettuce, cucumber, spring onions, strawberries, sweetcorn, some asstd mini fruit trees, possibly some beans, some smelly shit like lavender & maybe a lowryder#2 or 2..

probably wont do them all but if i can grow a few bits it should give us some nice munch and save some cash in these economic times, as well as being a nice mask for my other activities biggrin.gif

what we really need is a cherry tomato plant that makes really sweet nice toms and is everyielding like some strawberry plants are.. we eat a load of those, and i can chomp my way through 1kg of fresh peas in the shells in a sitting, with absolute ease.. rofl.gif

Hurm will have to work it out how much its going to cost to set up, then a per year cost for our growth, and projected yields.. I don't expect to save a lot of cash but some saving would be nice, along with the main reasons of therapy for me and some real quality food instead of the shit we're expected to ram down our necks by tesco and co..
kopchoir
that sounds like my plan for this summer just gone, the shit weather scuppered that one. One thing I will be doing again though is banging a load of radishes around my plants, let them go to seed and they get about 3-4ft tall staked and are covered in these highly fragrant white flowers and little edible pods, theyre spicy fuckers though, anyhow hoverflies and ladybirds love these flowers, hardly any aphid or any other parasitic damage either for that matter with them little bad boys fighting the good fight. And throw a toad or 2 in the tent and any slug/snails that overcome the bran will be devoured. the things we do!
Tremont-Salby
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I'm sure if we can peg and keep down an old school canvas 5man tent in a north wales storm, one of those plastic things will be okay..

had a similar one this year (but not the rip-stop type) for tomatoes that the ma-in-law gave me&mrs. S.
it blew over one windy night , even with the frame tiewrapped to a sheet of perspex with then the 3 x 30l tubs full of compost & plants... and topped up with bricks round the edges.
I dont mean to piss on anyones bonfire , but my fear would be the next weakest link would be the actual seams of the cover going , and the plastic ain't made like a canvas tent .
Even if you storm guyed the bugger i wouldnt like to chance it round my way.
the ferret
type in greenhouses on ebay some crackers on there very cheap
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