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Mystery
Hey i need to buy some nutrients soon. can anyone recommend a good all round nutrients for the whole flowering stage.

I want something that's all in one i was thinking something like this: nutes

any ideas?

thanks a lot
Nausicca
Grow + Bloom and Maxicrop Organic Seaweed Extract.
slunkalot
Biobizz seems to be d stable diet for most indoor soil growers. Grow + bloom. Some like me add biobizz top max and bud fuel in flowering stages but grow and bloom is sufficient.
smoke_ya_own
house of gardens, aqua flakes A&B, bud xl, top boost, and 3g = very large yeild high quality bud!
jiffa
smoke ya own . do you think 3g is good then . my growshop trying to push this stuff lately
Mystery
Ah thanks guys. Think i will stick witht the biobizz nutes.

thanks
Bish
QUOTE(jiffa @ Oct 31 2008, 10:17 AM) *
smoke ya own . do you think 3g is good then . my growshop trying to push this stuff lately


Is it organic?
KC
You won't go far wrong with the Biobizz, get yourself some epsoms salts too for a magnesium boost as alot of plants need it. I wouldn't bother with the topmax and bioheaven myself, they're largely regarded as a waste of money.
LNDNR420
Bio Bizz grow bloom and epsom salts for me, used to use topmax and bio-heaven too, but now my plants seem happier without it, been lookin into giving bio canna a try lately, just my curiosity gettin the better of me lol.gif
Herbal Kint
I was using Hesi never got used to it i either OD my plants or starve them,seems a bit to cemical ,since i am using Bio-Bizz grow+bloom my plants look green and healthy i wonder is it possible OD your plants with it because it seems to be very easy to use ,and it looks natural(and smells like that),try it
LNDNR420
Iv OD'd on bio bizz lol.gif pinch.gif
Herbal Kint
QUOTE(LNDNR420 @ Oct 31 2008, 01:24 PM) *
Iv OD'd on bio bizz lol.gif pinch.gif

How much of grow and bloom did u put per liter?

E2a lol.gif KC than that q. points for u to.
KC
QUOTE(LNDNR420 @ Oct 31 2008, 12:24 PM) *
Iv OD'd on bio bizz lol.gif pinch.gif


Me too biggrin.gif
jah_toker
Biobizz Grow/Bloom, been doing it fine for my grow.
smoke_ya_own
QUOTE(jiffa @ Oct 31 2008, 10:17 AM) *
smoke ya own . do you think 3g is good then . my growshop trying to push this stuff lately



QUOTE(Bish @ Oct 31 2008, 11:43 AM) *
QUOTE(jiffa @ Oct 31 2008, 10:17 AM) *
smoke ya own . do you think 3g is good then . my growshop trying to push this stuff lately


Is it organic?



i use a 90 litre tank with a smaller one which sits on top, before i started using 3g i was getting 15/16 ounce per plant, now i have started using it im getting 22/23 ounce per plant. you can noticeable see the plant drink nearly twice as much fluid.
the stuff is brilliant.

and yes its 100% organic.but very expensive. i think it retails between 160/190 GBP per litre.

so i source the supplier and now i get it for half the price.


i think because its so expensive it puts people off, but for me it definately worth the money.
LNDNR420
what is 3g?
LNDNR420
QUOTE(Herbal Kint @ Oct 31 2008, 01:39 PM) *
QUOTE(LNDNR420 @ Oct 31 2008, 01:24 PM) *
Iv OD'd on bio bizz lol.gif pinch.gif

How much of grow and bloom did u put per liter?

E2a lol.gif KC than that q. points for u to.


4ml p/ltr of each pinch.gif first compo grow lol.gif
smoke_ya_own
3G IS BASICALLY TRIPPLE F

its funny how they named it 3g (ggg ) triple f (fff) rofl.gif
mark..uk
QUOTE(KC @ Oct 31 2008, 01:39 PM) *
QUOTE(LNDNR420 @ Oct 31 2008, 12:24 PM) *
Iv OD'd on bio bizz lol.gif pinch.gif


Me too biggrin.gif

ya not suppose to drink it guys lol.gif
KC
QUOTE(Herbal Kint @ Oct 31 2008, 01:39 PM) *
QUOTE(LNDNR420 @ Oct 31 2008, 01:24 PM) *
Iv OD'd on bio bizz lol.gif pinch.gif

How much of grow and bloom did u put per liter?

E2a lol.gif KC than that q. points for u to.



Really depends on the plant mate, som will munch through nutes much quicker than others. I start feeding usually a week or two into flower, usually when the bottoms start to go pale. I start on 1ml per litre of grow and bloom, unless the plants are what i consider too pale in which case i give them 2ml/L of grow. As i see the buds start to fatten i up the dosage, when i see tip burn i back off to the previous feed level. smile.gif

e2a-sorry thats not clear, when i say i up the dosage when the buds start to fatten i mean i up the bloom feed gradually. It's not often i go above 3ml/L bloom though wink.gif
LNDNR420
QUOTE(mark..uk @ Nov 1 2008, 02:20 PM) *
ya not suppose to drink it guys lol.gif



rofl.gif Now you tell me rofl.gif bag.gif
jiffa
has anyone used fff ? and what did you think
mifton
i did a side by side experiment.... ionic V biobizz...

in 2 NFT tanks, not soil tho..

it was an 8 week flowerer... 5 weeks in, i stopped the biobizz and put them both on ionic...

because the buds were twice the size

by week 8 the original bio tank had almost caught up..

tbh tho... the top buds of the ionic tank were much better..
jiffa
didnt the bio go off in the nft sick.gif
mifton
no mate, i change the water regularly regardless of feed, i find if u dont, it dont taste so good at the end... and ive got a bubbler
LNDNR420
QUOTE(smoke_ya_own @ Nov 1 2008, 02:13 PM) *
3G IS BASICALLY TRIPPLE F

its funny how they named it 3g (ggg ) triple f (fff) rofl.gif


So what is triple f then? lol.gif sorry iv never heard of it.
jiffa
QUOTE(mifton @ Nov 1 2008, 09:41 PM) *
no mate, i change the water regularly regardless of feed, i find if u dont, it dont taste so good at the end... and ive got a bubbler


how regularly mate , i find bi bizz goes off after 48hrs and starts to stink
KC
Biobizz isn't made for hydroponics, no wonder they looked crap compared to the ionic. Hydro nutes have to have a load of micronutrients that you don't get in compost nutes afaik. Mot knocking you for trying it though mifton but i think a fairer comparison would be ionic and biobizz in compost (ionic do a compost nute now)
Herbal Kint
QUOTE(KC @ Nov 1 2008, 06:23 PM) *
QUOTE(Herbal Kint @ Oct 31 2008, 01:39 PM) *
QUOTE(LNDNR420 @ Oct 31 2008, 01:24 PM) *
Iv OD'd on bio bizz lol.gif pinch.gif

How much of grow and bloom did u put per liter?

E2a lol.gif KC than that q. points for u to.



Really depends on the plant mate, som will munch through nutes much quicker than others. I start feeding usually a week or two into flower, usually when the bottoms start to go pale. I start on 1ml per litre of grow and bloom, unless the plants are what i consider too pale in which case i give them 2ml/L of grow. As i see the buds start to fatten i up the dosage, when i see tip burn i back off to the previous feed level. smile.gif

e2a-sorry thats not clear, when i say i up the dosage when the buds start to fatten i mean i up the bloom feed gradually. It's not often i go above 3ml/L bloom though wink.gif

Thanks for that KC i was adding 2.5 ml of grow and 2.5 ml of bloom form day one of flowering ,reading that i think ill lover food a bit (i was reading manufactures instructions it says between 2-4 ml of grow and bloom every watering it seem ed a bit excessive to me luckily i dint burn them yet)
DoctorD
QUOTE (KC @ Nov 2 2008, 11:22 AM) *
Biobizz isn't made for hydroponics, no wonder they looked crap compared to the ionic. Hydro nutes have to have a load of micronutrients that you don't get in compost nutes afaik. Mot knocking you for trying it though mifton but i think a fairer comparison would be ionic and biobizz in compost (ionic do a compost nute now)


well i have found this here from jonnyblaze:


found this posted by NowhereFast on another forum . might be usefull to anyone considering organically fed hydro with BioBizz nutrients.

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heres some info ive gotten from and about biobizz products in hydro. ive read the stories of foamy res's and all. ive had biobloom and topmax in my res for 5 days now and not had a bit of foam at all. they do seem to say the biogrow is unstable and unsuitable for use in hydro. anyway, heres what they sent, anyone else with any biobizz experience in hydro?

BIOBIZZ Newsletter, 09 2006


Hey there!,



Not everybody knows, but it is possible to use Biobizz products on Hydro systems, and it is being done already. Especially here in Holland (on rockwool), in France (NFT and Coco) and Spain (Aeroponics).



Biobizz products were originally designed for growing on soil, but since we have OMRI and SKAL/EKO certifications (to prove and ensure it is 100% biological) we filter and process some of our components in such a manner, that they can work in universal way, regardless if you are growing on rockwool, NFT or with an automated Cocosystem



The basic rules:



Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice work without any problem on all hydroponical systems, like NFT, rockwool, Coco, Clay pebbels, Autopot / Aquasystems, Aeroponics etc,etc.



Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice can be stored in tanks or nutrient barrels for about one week, but only if a good circulation pump is added as well. Always work clean, Biobizz nutrients contain no preservatives.



Biogrow/ Fishmix, You can use it, but it decomposes very quickly, because of it�s concentrated ingredients. In an NFT system or nutrient tank it would mean you'd have to refresh the tank every 2 days instead of once a week. Also you have to really know what you are doing. Since it can go wrong easily if you don't pay attention, we do not promote it.



For automated sytems, it�s the same story. Biogrow/ Fishmix, decompose in two days, and start to foam. So if you have prepared a solution with water Biogrow and/or Fishmix, use the content of the tank immediatly. Besides the mix of these two products can clogg up the tubings of your system. Use at least �4mm tubings for your watering system to prevent this. It can be advised after feeding to flush the tubings with additonal water, clearing out all remaining residue.

For automated coco systems, Biogrow/ Fishmix, can be best used as a topfeeder by hand. Simply water by hand 2-3 times a week to avoid smelly and foaming nutrient barrels. If you add Biogrow/ Fishmix, to your tank make sure you use the complete content at once!



Using simple filters like a panty or old t-shirt can help filter larger particles in Biobizz nutrients, without loosing power, it will help to prevent clogging.



Fishmix and/or Alg-a-Mic: can be used as a foliarspray, you can continue doing this (2-3 times a week, 1-2ml per liter) untill the second week of flowering, then you have to stop, because these two products should not come in direct contact with the flowers.

The Fishmix makes sure you have enough nitrogen (if you are growing/flowering on NFT, this is the only extra source of Nitrogen Biobizz can provide (besides the Nitrogen in Biobloom), but after the second week of flowering you might need to add an additonal product to maintain specific Nitrogen levels if your plants show deficiencies.

With only Topmax and Biobloom it will lack nitrogen, magnesium and other usefull elements. Not so much because Biobizz products are crap, but because the NPK levels of 100% organic products can never be higher than 8.



Sometimes,depending on the seize of the plant, and in specific systems, after the second week of flowering a higher NPK level is required than Biobloom can offer on it�s own. Soil for instance, is a much better buffer and much richer in minerals than the water in an NFT tank. As we already said, Biobizz is originally designed for soil.



For dosage on hydroponical and Coco systems, we advise to follow our growchart for lightmix + aprox. 40%, So 5ml becomes 7 ml, 2ml becomes 3 ml and so on.



You can find our growchart on www.biobizz.com under downloads/resources



So to evaluate this whole story: Topmax, Bloom, and Rootjuice are multifunctional products that you can use in combination with other nutrients in any system.



Fishmix and Alg-a-mic as foliar spray 1-3 ml 2-3 times a week, till the second week of flowering



Biogrow/ Fishmix: In a hydrosystem do not use unless you know exaclty what you are doing or if you like to use it as a topfeeder on Coco systems.



So what about Bioheaven?



Now, this product was designed for ALL systems, Hydro, Coco, Aero, Soil etc. It is an individual product, not a bloomstimulator or rootstimulator! It can be used with ALL nutrient programs and products, and is designed to boost the application of the nutrient you are using. The L-Amino-acids are doing two important things for the plants: They transform macro-elements in natural enzyms and proteins,

and they increase the mineral uptake from 15-20% to 80-90%. This means you use every drop out of every mililiter of nutrient you are using! Because of the increased efficiency of the plants regulation system it works as a powerfull energy booster. For Bioheaven we have only one application: Use it !
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