Hi There,
I was wondering if there is a reason to spend £80.00 on Sensi Northern lights seeds when you there are seed banks whose nl is £30.00ish?
Is there strain that much better?
I am happy to spend the extra cash if it is.
Full Version: Same strain, Wildly differant price
Doubtful...
A lot of times you're paying for the name.. Sensi is pretty well known and always has great strains. They've been around a long time blah blah blah. You would get a great plant there...
The other companies.. I'm sure are just as good - but perhaps are striving to make more of a name for themselves and therefore will also put out a very good product --because it will be this product they are sending you that you will and could potentially base any further business upon. So they will most likely send you some very quality seeds which will become just as good if not better than said name brand plants.
There are some companies that specialize in only offering a few strains (say 10 or so) with NL being one of their best.. for about that price. -- You can count on those being primo quality.
Hope this helps..
A lot of times you're paying for the name.. Sensi is pretty well known and always has great strains. They've been around a long time blah blah blah. You would get a great plant there...
The other companies.. I'm sure are just as good - but perhaps are striving to make more of a name for themselves and therefore will also put out a very good product --because it will be this product they are sending you that you will and could potentially base any further business upon. So they will most likely send you some very quality seeds which will become just as good if not better than said name brand plants.
There are some companies that specialize in only offering a few strains (say 10 or so) with NL being one of their best.. for about that price. -- You can count on those being primo quality.
Hope this helps..
getting advice on here about seed suppliers helps too.
i've just ordered some serious seeds bubblegum, and some magnus genetics matavation. 57.99 each so not cheap, and since having a baby next year, they'll be kept stricktly as souveneers but i am completely happy with the choice of sdupplier i made due to searching these forums. good luck!
time for a j
i've just ordered some serious seeds bubblegum, and some magnus genetics matavation. 57.99 each so not cheap, and since having a baby next year, they'll be kept stricktly as souveneers but i am completely happy with the choice of sdupplier i made due to searching these forums. good luck!
time for a j
Some seed banks buy in seeds from other seed banks, cross them & then release them as their own strain. Or some seed banks buy seeds from other seed banks, cross them, then release them as a new strain, or will just buy in some seeds, take the best of each sex & use these to produce seeds of that strain to sell as their own.
Sensi Seeds got sick of it & now have White Lable Seeds as an outlet for their own versions of other seed banks strains.
Sensi Seeds got sick of it & now have White Lable Seeds as an outlet for their own versions of other seed banks strains.
First off,welcome to the good ship UK420 
I guess it depends if you've tried NL and liked it but £80 is well over the top by Sensi Seeds methinks as its truebreeding and doesnt even need for mothers to be kept,just seems pricey for what you get and think they are now trading on their reputation and havent really brought anything new to the scene for ages.
I'd look at Seedsman,maybe they do it?
Seedsman Gold have NL on discount for £19.
I guess it depends if you've tried NL and liked it but £80 is well over the top by Sensi Seeds methinks as its truebreeding and doesnt even need for mothers to be kept,just seems pricey for what you get and think they are now trading on their reputation and havent really brought anything new to the scene for ages.
I'd look at Seedsman,maybe they do it?
Seedsman Gold have NL on discount for £19.
All come down to if you want the closest to original Nevils stock Northern Lights? (personal I probably would spend the extra 
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in the 1980's Nevil's Seed Bank offered the whole lineup. The original Northern Lights family is genetically diverse.
Northern Lights 1 was a single stalked, compact plant with a moderate Afghani smell. No one offers this classic version at this time. A strong plant and buzz.
Northern Lights 2 was a sturdy, pine tree shaped with a musty and piney odor. Dutch Passion (Oasis) and THSeeds (Closet Queen) currently offer versions.
Northern Lights 2 X 5 from The Seed Bank was very bushy and resinous with a strong juniper berry smell. A truly remarkable hybrid not offered by anyone.
Northern Lights 5 is available from BCSC for $75, a variety Nevil of The Seed Bank said was only available pure as a cutting. It is likely hybridized at one point.
Northern Lights 9 X 5 "disappeared" when Nevil sold his genetics to Sensi Seeds, This is the only original Northern Lights 9 genetics source to my knowledge.
These are the original Northern Lights breeding lines from which today's versions arose. Sensi Seed Bank sells Northern Lights with no number attached. Having access to Nevil's original genetics, my guess is that they crossed an Northern Lights 1 male to their Northern Lights 5 mother and stabilized the results. Northern Lights Special is a hybrid from KC Brains in Holland of Sensi's Northern Lights crossed to a Haze female. Northern Lights 9 was only sold in seed form as a hybrid to the Northern Lights 5 mother plant by Nevil at The Seed Bank during the late 1980's. Sagarmatha receives a lot of their strains delivered to them as a finished product from outside breeders. It is possible that someone produced these seeds. The known fact of a Northern Lights 9 male existing meant purebred seed should have been possible to produce, unless it was a male only strain. Trichome Technologies has a strain named Northern Lights 6, another related family member.
Northern Lights 1 was a single stalked, compact plant with a moderate Afghani smell. No one offers this classic version at this time. A strong plant and buzz.
Northern Lights 2 was a sturdy, pine tree shaped with a musty and piney odor. Dutch Passion (Oasis) and THSeeds (Closet Queen) currently offer versions.
Northern Lights 2 X 5 from The Seed Bank was very bushy and resinous with a strong juniper berry smell. A truly remarkable hybrid not offered by anyone.
Northern Lights 5 is available from BCSC for $75, a variety Nevil of The Seed Bank said was only available pure as a cutting. It is likely hybridized at one point.
Northern Lights 9 X 5 "disappeared" when Nevil sold his genetics to Sensi Seeds, This is the only original Northern Lights 9 genetics source to my knowledge.
These are the original Northern Lights breeding lines from which today's versions arose. Sensi Seed Bank sells Northern Lights with no number attached. Having access to Nevil's original genetics, my guess is that they crossed an Northern Lights 1 male to their Northern Lights 5 mother and stabilized the results. Northern Lights Special is a hybrid from KC Brains in Holland of Sensi's Northern Lights crossed to a Haze female. Northern Lights 9 was only sold in seed form as a hybrid to the Northern Lights 5 mother plant by Nevil at The Seed Bank during the late 1980's. Sagarmatha receives a lot of their strains delivered to them as a finished product from outside breeders. It is possible that someone produced these seeds. The known fact of a Northern Lights 9 male existing meant purebred seed should have been possible to produce, unless it was a male only strain. Trichome Technologies has a strain named Northern Lights 6, another related family member.
QUOTE(dr rockster @ Oct 29 2008, 06:44 PM) 
£80 is well over the top by Sensi Seeds methinks as its truebreeding and doesnt even need for mothers to be kept,just seems pricey for what you get and think they are now trading on their reputation and havent really brought anything new to the scene for ages.
I noticed this too, it's not like there is a difference of a few pound. There's a £60 difference !! Is there really that much difference between them to warrant paying that much more ?
Has anyone used seedsman ? Any feedback on them ?
Cheers
Has anyone used seedsman ? Any feedback on them ?
Cheers
QUOTE(DuBBuD @ Nov 1 2008, 12:13 AM)
Has anyone used seedsman ? Any feedback on them ?
Seedman's seeds are very good beans for the money. From a breading point of view their OG Haze, Afghani #1 and Skunk1 are IBL from the original Sam the Skunkman Sacred Seeds (the original breeder) and thy also do some nice landrace like Malawi Gold and Mama Thai
I got a batch of Serious Seeds Ak47 just for a bit of variety to my usual fem seed grows. Wasn't till I'd placed the order that I realised they're actually more expensive than Paradise fems. For £65 I get 10 females. With the Ak47 it's almost as much money for 11 regular seeds that will give ??? females.
If there is still equipment you need to make your groom more efficient or secure I'd recommend playing it cheap with the seeds but not bagseed, that is false economy imo. Last thing you want is some sativa trying to grow through the ceiling. They are consumables after all and you can always go up market later.
If there is still equipment you need to make your groom more efficient or secure I'd recommend playing it cheap with the seeds but not bagseed, that is false economy imo. Last thing you want is some sativa trying to grow through the ceiling. They are consumables after all and you can always go up market later.
Didn't think Paradise seeds did an AK?
And in fairness, not everyone want female plants all the time.
And in fairness, not everyone want female plants all the time.
I got the AK47s from Serious Seeds as a change from what I usually get from Paradise which is Jacky Whites, sorry for the confusion.
I can understand not everyone wanting female seeds. The priority with female seeds is getting them stable whereas with some breeders the priority with their regular seeds is getting them to give the best mother plant. Horses for courses.
I can understand not everyone wanting female seeds. The priority with female seeds is getting them stable whereas with some breeders the priority with their regular seeds is getting them to give the best mother plant. Horses for courses.
Thankyou very much for your help.
Maybe I can slightly redifine my question.
I like the sensi advertised qualities for there NL, Quick, short, low odour, reasonable yeild, easy to grow.(i am shit at it)
That is pretty much my current ideal. Would seedsman Nl have those same qualities to the same degree?
Thanks
Maybe I can slightly redifine my question.
I like the sensi advertised qualities for there NL, Quick, short, low odour, reasonable yeild, easy to grow.(i am shit at it)
That is pretty much my current ideal. Would seedsman Nl have those same qualities to the same degree?
Thanks
What's up gentlebreeze? I knew what you wanted to know man. My first NL was Oasis from Dutch Passion, I picked the seeds from The Seedbank Co. in London. Very easy to grow, quick, short, low odour, and great yeild man. Now their feminized is around 85 quids and the regular is less, I would go for the regular and get atleast one girl to seed and there you go......plenty NL seeds of your own mate.
I hope I helped...
I hope I helped...
I spent £80 on some NL by Sensi Seeds & not 1 seed popped, then went out & spent £20 on some NL by Nirvana & they were amazing. I`ve also know people who have had amazing results with Sensi strains & crap results with cheaper seeds. Its a shame the cannabis industry is so unregulated, i know most seed companies do as much as they can to give us the best product they can and are spending millions on reserch & development even though the pro-cannabis movement seems to be fighting a loosing battle. We also have people who are out to make as much money possible knowing full well that if they put crap quality seeds in packs to sell people cant do much about it as they are most likely growing cannabis somewhere they shouldnt.
I'm sitting here thinking the same thing about NL, i really want as close to the orginal as possible.
The thing that puts me off seedsman's NL is it says its a cross of afghani/skunk no.1/haze so just how close to the orginal could it be
And then you got sensi for a shit load dearer but then your getting better genetics from what can see.
I'v got £90 spare in the bank so i'm buying something
The thing that puts me off seedsman's NL is it says its a cross of afghani/skunk no.1/haze so just how close to the orginal could it be
And then you got sensi for a shit load dearer but then your getting better genetics from what can see.
I'v got £90 spare in the bank so i'm buying something
I haven't heard one valid reason as to why Sensi Seeds NL is worth £60 more than most others 
I suppose the only way to know for sure would be to grow sensi & seedsman together and see
I suppose the only way to know for sure would be to grow sensi & seedsman together and see
Well to me its cause i want NL and not a cross with something else but its the price are they really that good?
What do you's think then, should i order sensi NL? seems to be the best from what i've read
E2a:- £86.49 from seedsman
E2a:- £86.49 from seedsman
Ok then,
I will get seedsman Nl and either dutch passion oasis which is nl 2 or sagarmatha nl 9
You get the sensi and we will do side by side diarys.
I will pick up the beans on the 14th when i am in town.
What do you reckon?
I will get seedsman Nl and either dutch passion oasis which is nl 2 or sagarmatha nl 9
You get the sensi and we will do side by side diarys.
I will pick up the beans on the 14th when i am in town.
What do you reckon?
QUOTE(westie @ Nov 2 2008, 12:33 PM)
I spent £80 on some NL by Sensi Seeds & not 1 seed popped, then went out & spent £20 on some NL by Nirvana & they were amazing.
Exact same thing happend to me Sensi Northern Lights never popped and spent £10 on some nirvana AK48 and got 7 ounces from 3 plants under a 400w. i was more than pleased but annoyed at the shoddyness of the seeds for a so-called main brand.
QUOTE(evans181 @ Nov 2 2008, 07:27 PM)
What do you's think then, should i order sensi NL? seems to be the best from what i've read
E2a:- £86.49 from seedsman
E2a:- £86.49 from seedsman
QUOTE(PieInTheSky @ Nov 2 2008, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE(westie @ Nov 2 2008, 12:33 PM)
I spent £80 on some NL by Sensi Seeds & not 1 seed popped, then went out & spent £20 on some NL by Nirvana & they were amazing.
Exact same thing happend to me Sensi Northern Lights never popped and spent £10 on some nirvana AK48 and got 7 ounces from 3 plants under a 400w. i was more than pleased but annoyed at the shoddyness of the seeds for a so-called main brand.
Its upto you, just make sure the people you buying from have a good rep. It was the 1st time i had used the company i got my NL seeds from & i havnt used them again. The shop i use now has all their stock in a fridge in the store to keep them fresh & if the dont have them in stock then they will order direct from the supplier & that only takes a few days. Seeds are hit & miss as the market is not regulated.
Well i'm ordering from seedsman at the bottom of the page so heres hoping they are good seeds, if they dont pop i'll be gutted
As for the side by side diary well we'll see as i'm still half way through a grow just now, well actually just on the 1st day of flowering tomro so about 8 weeks to go
Just getting my next lot sorted just now while i've got the spare cash
As for the side by side diary well we'll see as i'm still half way through a grow just now, well actually just on the 1st day of flowering tomro so about 8 weeks to go
Just getting my next lot sorted just now while i've got the spare cash
Well thats them ordered so fingers crossed 
hi ive got a seedsman NL on the go at the minute seedsman is a great seedbank with some good cheap strains only popped 1 seed and its now 3 days in to flower i have been warned to Look out for tall NLs with big leaves with very long stalks. the person i got the seeds off grew one of these, and whilst it was a good yeild, the hit is pathetic. he said Find a short stubbly girl and the smoke is awsome.
this is just for seedsman i dont know about other seedbanks, so if you gonna keep a mum you know which one to keep !!!!!
this is just for seedsman i dont know about other seedbanks, so if you gonna keep a mum you know which one to keep !!!!!
Ye i'd think that would be a problem with seedsman's NL as its been crossed with haze n skunk.
I'd hope and expect all the seeds in a pack from sensi to grow fairly similar
I'd hope and expect all the seeds in a pack from sensi to grow fairly similar
My seeds are on there way 
Should be here tomoro hopefully
Should be here tomoro hopefully
A little problem got my seeds there n look what they sent Click to view attachment
Phoned the fella there tho very pleasent he was n he's going to get the Sensi Northern Lights seeds sent out today so should be here tomoro
Phoned the fella there tho very pleasent he was n he's going to get the Sensi Northern Lights seeds sent out today so should be here tomoro
Ok got my seeds through, just need to find some space to start growing them
They come in a nice box Click to view attachment
He also sent me 5 free seeds which is nice, but he didnt say what they were so i'll need to drop him an email, dont want to go germinating them if there sativas or something
They come in a nice box Click to view attachment
He also sent me 5 free seeds which is nice, but he didnt say what they were so i'll need to drop him an email, dont want to go germinating them if there sativas or something
Nice one mate, the free seeds will be the skunk-haze. 
QUOTE (Tyler.Durden @ Nov 6 2008, 01:05 PM)
skunk-haze.
You sure mate? Is that from seedsmans own seeds i take it?
have you got to send the Seedmens Nl back then evans ?
if you do, who pays the postage ?
if you do, who pays the postage ?
I recently bought some NL from spam and they cost me £17 for 10 plus i got 5 mazar-afgan beans for free. total with postage 26 peices of paper. Dont know how good they will be but for 26 notes you cant go wrong.
QUOTE (arai @ Nov 6 2008, 01:39 PM)
have you got to send the Seedmens Nl back then evans ?
if you do, who pays the postage ?
if you do, who pays the postage ?
Hey aria, ye the fella asked me to send them back so i did, to be honest i was expecting him just to say keep them
I payed for the return postage which is a little annoying but its only £1.24 for the recorded delivery so not exactly a fortune
It was more the hassle of going to a post office which was a pain in the ass but its done now so all is good, heres hoping they all pop now and i get a 9/10 females
On that point actually i think i might get popping tomoro i'm so impatient
E2a:- they are skunk haze seeds just heard back from seedsman there
Good stuff mate,
Keep us updated with news on the Sensi northern lights,
Good luck, popped em yet? ;-)
You going to start a diary for them? ; 
Keep us updated with news on the Sensi northern lights,
Good luck, popped em yet? ;-)
You going to start a diary for them? ;
Hey rokitkrk well i couldn't get to sleep last nite so at about 2am i got up and put the 10 seeds in a warm glass of water then at about 3pm today popped them in moist light mix in small pots and put them under a 125w blue CFL
All the pots are in my prop with the vents open, its just to stop the top of the compost drying out really and also to keep them a bit warmer.
So heres hoping they start to pop there heads through in the next few days, if they dont i'll be worried
I'll start a diary when and if they pop
All the pots are in my prop with the vents open, its just to stop the top of the compost drying out really and also to keep them a bit warmer.
So heres hoping they start to pop there heads through in the next few days, if they dont i'll be worried
I'll start a diary when and if they pop
So 48Hrs after sticking them in to there pots 3 are up so far which i can ony take as a good sign that i'll hopefully get a good germ rate, so rite now am pretty excited
I'll start a diary soon but its going to be a long one as i'm going to grow them till they show sex and then take cuts from all my females and flower them to see what yield, high, taste etc i get from each plant and decide which if any to keep as mothers
I'll start a diary soon but its going to be a long one as i'm going to grow them till they show sex and then take cuts from all my females and flower them to see what yield, high, taste etc i get from each plant and decide which if any to keep as mothers
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