jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 10:56 AM
Hello all hows it g®oing! I am extremely new to this ! Just wandering my plants are 1ft tall thai growing in miracle grow compost with extra added nutes Ive used 4x4 pots so far planning on transplanting to bigger pots and changing my compost. What i was wandering is
1) Is miracle grow compost any good ? if not why?
2) is it possible to transplant and change this compost completely?
3) I think i have signs of burns I allso use bio bizz along side is this to much with M G ( will be posting pics in a few mins )
4) any recomendations on what i should do ?
any advice is very appreciated! going to take the pics now!
squirrel
Oct 10 2008, 11:00 AM
Hi jonnyjim. I'm afraid Miracle Gro is not well thought of here. It uses chemical ferts and isn't great for canna. You absolutely should NOT add extra nutes until you are in mid to late flower, you'll burn the crap out of them.
I recommend repotting into West+ Advanced, or any decent multi-purpose compost. Don't try to extract the compost they are already in from the rootball, you'll damage the plant.
jiffa
Oct 10 2008, 11:02 AM
there a post about it somewhere , just yesterday or even today
here it is
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...=144009&hl=it contains cancer cause chemicals
yes you can transplant
need pics to know
e2a link
jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 11:16 AM
ill have to upload it shortly i share my wireless ill hav to wait till its a bit faster shoudnt be too long
jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 11:24 AM
here i go again hope its seeable
jiffa
Oct 10 2008, 11:29 AM
looks like the soils a touch hot , get a pic of the whole plant
jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 11:31 AM
ill be back in 5 taking new pic
jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 11:57 AM
hope this is better i did water them this morning under neath the top soil its damp!
jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 12:00 PM
soz about the wait pc crashed 3 times in a row! that is one of the smaller plants been giving them some light training !
jiffa
Oct 10 2008, 12:07 PM
looks good but what goin on with the top
jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 12:11 PM
bin training by using string using the pot to sit on the string ! moved it to get a cleare shot and it must have sprang into a funny position! grown so far with 125w ecolight preparing to get the big guns out soon! 600 hps! ! so should i transplant soon! was thinking of getting canna coco peat, would that be any good?
jiffa
Oct 10 2008, 12:32 PM
thats kinda hydro , there aint no food in coco
i use westland with added ji for my mother and when i used to use biobizz
jonnyjim
Oct 10 2008, 12:40 PM
Thanks a million! heres a pic of the crop ! i know crap set up so far will be changing the foil ! put that in when i didnt no anything! planning a major upgrade this week cool tube, carbon, mylar, fan and better ducting!
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 01:44 PM
Hello all,
Got my self a bit of a problem! I started of my seedlings in small plastic cups using miracle grow, I potted up to 4 inch pots with allot of difficulty because the compost i used was old and even when drenched with water would not hold together, as a result of this some roots broke, I am now ready to pot up again to organic compost but i am extremely weary as to what will happen this time!
I have read up on the guides to transplanting on uk420 (learning so much from you all) but was wandering if anyone has had this problem? or does anyone have any advice of what i should do? I am pretty certain that even if i tried to cut the bottom of the pot of and placed on top of another everything would drop out the bottom!
madhouse
Oct 15 2008, 01:48 PM
I guess you`ll just have to be very carefull and hope for the best good luck
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 01:50 PM
Cheers looks like ill need it!
leroy
Oct 15 2008, 01:59 PM
just do it slowly, i take my rooted cuttings out of their pots and remove almost all of the compost carefully, then i replant in the new pot with rootgrow.
just go easy on them
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 02:04 PM
It looks like ill have to! well i feel more confident knowing that it can be removed plus i suppose getting rid of the miracle grow has to be a good thing!
bart
Oct 15 2008, 02:24 PM
hi
are you sure there ready for potting up !!
if youv got a good root mass it should hold together
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 02:37 PM
Im pretty certain they are ready! I think my problem started from not watering properly the top layer was very dry and you can see where the roots tried to grow at the base of the plants but stunted so im guessing most the roots can only be at the botttom of the pot ? This is my first time growing! Im of to get my compost in the next few hours ! so i guess only then ill be able to tell!
jiffa
Oct 15 2008, 02:37 PM
QUOTE(bart @ Oct 15 2008, 03:24 PM)

hi
are you sure there ready for potting up !!
if youv got a good root mass it should hold together
i agree , sounds like they wernt ready , if they have rooted well you shouldnt have a problem
madrobar
Oct 15 2008, 02:43 PM
QUOTE(jiffa @ Oct 15 2008, 03:37 PM)

QUOTE(bart @ Oct 15 2008, 03:24 PM)

hi
are you sure there ready for potting up !!
if youv got a good root mass it should hold together
i agree , sounds like they wernt ready , if they have rooted well you shouldnt have a problem
+1...............sounds like their not ready.................M
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 02:46 PM
My root tips are coming out the bottom
jiffa
Oct 15 2008, 02:47 PM
how long the been in the pots
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 02:50 PM
about 30 days
bart
Oct 15 2008, 02:52 PM
oww, the root ball should be solid
30 days is long time
jiffa
Oct 15 2008, 02:52 PM
they been in them pots for 30days
they should be ok just be gentle
you should pot up regularly , every 2 weeks is good . but as they need it is better
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 02:55 PM
Thank you all for the advice, very much appreciated! Ill let you know how it goes on this thread when it is done!
oldtimer1
Oct 15 2008, 03:12 PM
Look
here, this is how the rootball should look at every potting on, this is the second pot up the Doc made in 16 days from the seeds emerging.
jonnyjim
Oct 15 2008, 03:17 PM
Thank you ot1 been reading some of your threads !

Your wisdom is highly regarded! getting a clearer pic of things now!
jonnyjim
Oct 16 2008, 02:05 PM
Yep the root balls were solid potted up 2 westlands with added JI Thankyou all!!!! didnt get the chance to photograph them !
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