Spliff Riff
Oct 6 2008, 12:44 PM
Hi hope someone can help.
I repotted my two dwarf mix on saturday and they have wilted big time!!!!! they have not been over or under watered, and were healthy as anything beforw repotting.
Is there anything that can be done? does anything need to be done? ie is this just stress of being repotted?
Or are they screwed?!!!!
Any help would be most appreciated
frankie-smiles
Oct 6 2008, 12:50 PM
Ouch, they don't look good. Whatever has changed in the past few days, they don't like it. If it were me i'd have em outta that soil and into something else, they have gone down hill quite quick by the look of it. Is it only the soil that has been changed, no change to enviroment or such?
Spliff Riff
Oct 6 2008, 12:55 PM
Hi Frankie,
Just the Soil, the enviroment is axactly the same. Temps fluctuating between 23 and 24.5 at moment. The fan leaves seem to be drying out but they dont need any more water. This is why i was thinking it was shock to the system after repotting!!
I aint bloody happy!!
frankie-smiles
Oct 6 2008, 01:16 PM
I wouldn't be either mate, what soil is it and did you water after transplant? If the soil is damp i leave it a day or so after transplant before i water. Looks like a kinda major problem, bad bad soil is my guess, anyone else got any ideas?
jimmynail
Oct 6 2008, 01:20 PM
it looks like overwatering.
if they are female you might be able to take some cuttings?
Spliff Riff
Oct 6 2008, 01:21 PM
Just a note, the soil is light allmix and not long since been bought.
I watered once i repotted. but not too much as they didnt look like they needed it.
They are only 27 days on, but will be gutted if my efforts have been in vain!!
bart
Oct 6 2008, 01:25 PM
QUOTE(Spliff Riff @ Oct 6 2008, 02:21 PM)

I watered once i repotted. but not too much as they didnt look like they needed it.
looks like underwaterd to me
when you potup you should soak the compost
Pinball Wizard
Oct 6 2008, 01:27 PM
looks like either a lack of water or air circulation to me. if they have plenty water then i'd suggest that maybe they are getting almost zero air movement around the leaves. are they in any kind of breeze? what sort of extraction do you have?
e2a: just seen post about not watering after pot up. agree with bart - you need to soak the soil. the new compost probably 'wicked away' much of the remaining moisture they had.
evans181
Oct 6 2008, 01:30 PM
Looks like there thirsty to me, i'd give them a good drenching if you haven'y already
jiffa
Oct 6 2008, 01:32 PM
if you never waterin then the original rootball is probly dry but the new soil looks wet/fresh
Rambone
Oct 6 2008, 01:39 PM
QUOTE(jimmynail @ Oct 6 2008, 02:20 PM)

it looks like overwatering.
if they are female you might be able to take some cuttings?
Too be honest I think its the opposite of what your advising!
xxxxxposed
Oct 6 2008, 01:47 PM
Yep..lack of water...happened to mine on my Blue Cheese grow...had 4...forgot to water one day went back n it had collapsed!
No word of a lie either,I have dreams that I go to my grow room n all of them are like whats happened to yours and my one Blue Cheese!
Spliff Riff
Oct 6 2008, 02:09 PM
Hi
I have pretty good air quality going on, fan attatched to tube which is dropped to the bottom of the room with a carbon filter on the ceiling axtracting out.
It cant be the air quality as i have an ak47 auto fem which has just sprouted and is ok.
Getting mixed messages ref over or underwatering. when i watered after repotting there was excess water left in tray which i removed so not too sure about the over watering????
bart
Oct 6 2008, 02:12 PM
QUOTE(Spliff Riff @ Oct 6 2008, 03:09 PM)

when i watered after repotting there was excess water left in tray which i removed so not too sure about the over watering????
did you let the pot sit in the water for 20 min or so !?
jiffa
Oct 6 2008, 02:13 PM
I watered once i repotted. but not too much as they didnt look like they needed it.
but you say this
ReverendRFB
Oct 6 2008, 02:15 PM
That happened to the very first plant I ever re-potted. The plant was about 12" tall or so, and I transplanted it into a pot that was twice its beginning size.. but within 15 minutes of repotting it, it looked just like yours did. I realized pretty quickly that whatever I had done had apparently put the plant into shock - from which it never recovered.
My theories were/are:
*Change in environment temperature -perhaps potting mix was colder when roots went into soil?
*Lack of water in new environment upon arrival.
*Damage to the root ball or root 'mass' upon transplanting.
This led me to believe that Cannabis plants were fickle, and extremely sensitive.. which I have now found out is not entirely true. They are a weed, and they will grow darn near anywhere... but once their established.. they kinda like things staying relatively the same. I haven't had any problems since- I hope your plant recovers! -Mine never did..
Spliff Riff
Oct 6 2008, 02:20 PM
Yes it wasnt too much water, but they didnt retain much which is why i thought it didnt need any further water?
pirineosman
Oct 6 2008, 02:40 PM
HEY spliff riff,
why dont you check out the rootball and compost,even if it means stressing them cause if you dont do anything they are f****d.
I fell gutted for you and your plants.I was thinking you would either see feel really dry or wet compost and this could help deciding what to do.
best of luck
Blayz'd
Oct 6 2008, 05:15 PM
QUOTE(bart @ Oct 6 2008, 02:25 PM)

QUOTE(Spliff Riff @ Oct 6 2008, 02:21 PM)

I watered once i repotted. but not too much as they didnt look like they needed it.
looks like underwaterd to me
when you potup you should soak the compost
I don't. I wait until my previous pot is 70% dry and pot up then. When it's in the new pot I soak around the compost of the old pot but leave the new compost as is. Then it takes a few days for said pot to become ready for water again. I get good results like this. Never had a problem with potting up.
Why should you soak the compost? To bind the compost from the old pot to the new?
compostverte
Oct 6 2008, 05:52 PM
I'd gently excavate around the transplants and see if the root ball is properly wetted.
Did you transplant into a pot-shaped hole ?
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bart
Oct 6 2008, 05:55 PM
QUOTE(Blayz'd @ Oct 6 2008, 06:15 PM)

I don't. I wait until my previous pot is 70% dry and pot up then. When it's in the new pot I soak around the compost of the old pot but leave the new compost as is. Then it takes a few days for said pot to become ready for water again. I get good results like this. Never had a problem with potting up.
Why should you soak the compost? To bind the compost from the old pot to the new?
you soak it because you dont want any dry areas ,roots wont grow in dry compost
i potup at 50% dry or less ,pops out of pot ezy
soak the lot, remove drain off after 20 min ,water again when they need it
each to there own
compostverte
Oct 6 2008, 05:56 PM
Yep, that sounds like what I do, and they get a serious drenching that first time.
Blayz'd
Oct 6 2008, 05:57 PM
Yeah man. Thanks Bart.

Never known dry areas in my new compost either. It's usually always new and always damp as it comes out of the bag. Nice one for the answer though.
bart
Oct 6 2008, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(Blayz'd @ Oct 6 2008, 06:57 PM)

Yeah man. Thanks Bart.

Spliff Riff
Oct 6 2008, 06:53 PM
Thanks for all the advice on this problem, It looks like i was seriuously overwatering prior to the potting up!!!!!!!!!!
When i checked the roots i noticed the base of the flant was soaked and very flimsy as i touched it, it broke then obviously noticed alot of the roots in the soil were detached.
I have probably made one of the worst mistakes in the world, but this was my first attempt and i have learnt a valuable lesson!
redeyes420
Oct 7 2008, 06:42 AM
she's thirsty , thats all
mygarden
Oct 7 2008, 07:36 AM
Whenever I repot, whether garden plants or weed, I always soak the rootball first. Then let it drain thoroughly and then finally water again to settle the new soil around the roots. As long as there is a good amount of drainage material at the bottom (I use broken up polystyrene chips) I never have a problem.
Bish
Oct 7 2008, 05:01 PM
When repotting plants into fresh compost, they need to be watered in. By watered in we mean, fully saturating the root ball with a fine rose watering can. The fine rose ensures that the whole root ball is saturated & that the compost settles slowly. This is normal practise when growing in posts with compost.
And if after a couple of watering later when the compost has settled, the pots may need topping up to the brim with more fresh compost.
Blayz'd
Oct 7 2008, 05:09 PM
Nice one Bish. Fine rose watering can. Another tool for my list.
When you say need, you mean should be? or does not watering them in have detrimental effects?
Bish
Oct 7 2008, 05:13 PM
After a fresh repot, & watering in properly with a fine rose, the compost will slowly settle. Sometimes it may need a compost top up. If it does, top it up
chewable_madness
Oct 19 2008, 07:53 PM
I just did the same thing as you mate, my babies looked as dead as could be a fired water into them when i moved them to their new pots a couple hours ago and at least one seems to have revived fingers crossed for the others
*BANG*
Oct 19 2008, 09:34 PM
hya mate....tbh i think its tress....im not the most experience grower but i can say that when i had my outdoor grow, when transplanting,b(b4 i stuck em in soil) they did wilt from time to time.i usually shaded them from direct light (not too sure if thats it ne=cesary for u...u could try shade netting sold at greens tho if u want it for futur refernce).I think u have just damaged ur roots system,judging from wat u said the base of your pot was like,make sure the soil is moist as ppl have said,stick ur finger down the side of the old pot shape, and just keep an eye on em and i rekon,they shopuld come thru.....someone might know better tho,so plz dont take my word for gold....hope that helps....
Healthystealthy
Oct 24 2008, 11:12 AM
Get your plants watered m8, the new compost might seem moist but it needs to be watered in fully everytime you repot as its too dry for the roots. Your plants should recover, i had 9 totally dry out on me & they all looked like your one when i opened my tent, i nearly cried

i just gave them all a good water & put them back under the lights, next day they looked the bollocks

pics of them looking shit & the recovery are in my super skunk diary
Healthy
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