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Lennon
Do these need to be soaked and cooked like hemp,tiger's etc etc ?

Ive found a new stick mix receipe I wanna start making that involves the above,but Im fecked if I can find any info on the prep of them.Ive checked out the fishing forums and bait makers guides that state prep times for every partical/seed but Niger seeds are not on any of them so was thinking maybe there fine to use as they are.

Any info would be great

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jiffa
never heard of them but i would of thought soak for 24hrs and half an hour boil would be called for unsure.gif
Lennon
QUOTE(jiffa @ Sep 16 2008, 12:43 PM) *
never heard of them


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Niger Seeds
These contain 40% beneficial oils and 18% protein plus rich in omegas and carbonhydrates. A very attractive addition to any Base mix/Spodmix/Stickmix.


The few sites Ive found that sell them,none of them mention they need to be prepared like the one above.

jiffa
can you can find about tigers or something else , see if they mention cooking them ?
Lennon
Ive checked quite a few different bait-making sites prep guides and there not on any of them.

Here's one from CC Moore:-
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Nothing mentioned g.gif Id have thought if it needed to be,it deffo whould have been on there guide.

jiffa
g.gif indeed , horrible is this but as you say surely they would be mentioned
Markymark
Niger seeds are not normally used for the nutritional value, more as something to help break up colours and to make a bait look that little bit different!

Add a few grams to boilie mix and it does break up a flat texture and make the bait look a bit more interesting......

Would definatley soak them over night or otherwise they will probably float as soon as the stick mix breaks up but no need to boil them.

The mix you have found probably has them purely for comestic reasons as there are a lot of ingredients that could be used instead that would have far better pulling power for Mr fish...... wink.gif
Lennon
Hey Marky

Im gonna be putting them in a food processer and whizzing them to dust so to speak with some other bits and bobs would the Niger seeds still float then if I didnt soak them?
jiffa
QUOTE(Lennon @ Sep 16 2008, 04:14 PM) *
Hey Marky

Im gonna be putting them in a food processer and whizzing them to dust so to speak with some other bits and bobs would the Niger seeds still float then if I didnt soak them?


i reckon they might float , abit like crushed hemp . good as an active ingredient to your mix
Markymark
Put the seeds in the processor first, give them a blend and add a drop or two of fish oil or olive oil (depending on if it is a fishy or fruity mix) give them another blast with the processor and leave for a few minutes so the oil soaks in and then make up the rest of the mix.....

The oil will add to the density which will make it less bouyant, it will probably suspend a few inches above the lake bed and some will still float up but this will add to the attraction......
Lennon
A big big thanks to Marky thumbsup.gif

Thats just what I was after I knew you would be able to sort me out,Its been racking my brain for a few days now,feck knows how many hours Ive wasted looking through threads on the carpy Forums for the answers.

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Lennon
Got the final mix sorted along with 2 other's Ive knocked together for next to nothing.....Ive got an over nighter planned,gonna get down the pit after work on Thursday and do till Friday night as the weathers looking really nice cool.gif

Im gonna try a different mix on each rod but all rods are gonna be over the same spod mix,and see what happens......... g.gif No fish have been out for a couple of weeks now so Im hoping I can blag Mr Carpy into playing ball 13.gif


Tight Lines(Hopefully)

weedmonsta
QUOTE(Markymark @ Sep 16 2008, 03:56 PM) *
Niger seeds are not normally used for the nutritional value, more as something to help break up colours and to make a bait look that little bit different!

Add a few grams to boilie mix and it does break up a flat texture and make the bait look a bit more interesting......

Would definatley soak them over night or otherwise they will probably float as soon as the stick mix breaks up but no need to boil them.

The mix you have found probably has them purely for comestic reasons as there are a lot of ingredients that could be used instead that would have far better pulling power for Mr fish...... wink.gif


i get them in my seed......i get wilkinsons canary seed £1.19 for a kilo......
then just put it in a bucket with some boiling water and leave it covered for 24 hours
after 24 hours it should be soft and plump if its not then top up with fresh hot water and leave for another 4-8 hours
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