bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 11:11 AM
Good afternoon all,ok just a short n really.
right so my girls recently started showin signs of mg shortage.
I dosed them(6 of)with bish's reccomended doses,that was two days ago,naah upon light on inspection time today i can see theres been no noticable change in leaf colour in the two days since dosing.
so how long should it take for it to be taken by the plants..,or until i should start seeing the green coming back?
many thanks.BIZZ..
bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 11:19 AM
Come on 420!...anyone knows me knows iv had shittiy Mg faults in the past!!!...where is ya'll..

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bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 11:23 AM
QUOTE(Scrumpy Jack @ Aug 31 2008, 12:22 PM)

like mate,
hows it going? sorry dude i cant answer yer q, but good luck bro
S
J


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...Aaaaah mate i call out to the wide blue yonder n who comes charging on his great white 420 stead?..its only SJ!!!...

....trouble is the charger stumbled on the last hurdle!..

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thanks anyway bro..
grandad
Aug 31 2008, 11:35 AM
you cant have instant anything when your growin patience is a must, the quickest was is to spray the plants if you've not already done so, i got myself 10kilo of epsom salts last week, i consider it very important to start adding from day 14 into 12/12. but dont ever take what i say as how it should be cos i make mistakes.
bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 11:38 AM
QUOTE(grandad @ Aug 31 2008, 12:35 PM)

you cant have instant anything when your growin patience is a must, the quickest was is to spray the plants if you've not already done so, i got myself 10kilo of epsom salts last week, i consider it very important to start adding from day 14 into 12/12. but dont ever take what i say as how it should be cos i make mistakes.
Aaaaay Gd how goesit my man..goodi hope?
well thanks for your input,it seams yourmost probly right as it goes,my girls have just hit 13 days 12/12 so i guess they wr dosed at day11.so yeh that would sound right to me GD.....so would it be cool to spray the girls as well as water dosing them,especialy so soon after the initial dose??
vigor
Aug 31 2008, 11:43 AM
I'd say 4 to 7 days, and then hope you did it right

What was Bish recommendation?
Peace
bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 12:07 PM
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=92176areet vigor,this wasit bro.
go on tell me whats right???..
grandad
Aug 31 2008, 12:11 PM
£23 with post for 10kilo, £2.30 kilo and next day delivery
bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(grandad @ Aug 31 2008, 01:11 PM)

£23 with post for 10kilo, £2.30 kilo and next day delivery
that is suretly just short of a shit-load right?...

so can anyone tell me if n when i should be seein any change after dosing???..please..
joeninty
Aug 31 2008, 12:21 PM
hi im no expert but i belive that once a leaf yellows it stays yellow your best bet is to check any new growth for signs of improvement. dont take this as gospel as i may be off the mark. also as stated above patience is key it can take a while for a plant to show signs of improvement after treatment. hope this helps.
ninty
Bish
Aug 31 2008, 12:23 PM
QUOTE(bizzaro73 @ Aug 31 2008, 01:19 PM)

so can anyone tell me if n when i should be seein any change after dosing???..please..

All depends on how quickly the plant can take it up. Usually 4-7 days.
bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 12:27 PM
Aaaah thanks bish nice one,thats all i needed to know really.
Ohother than can i spray epsoms as well or am i best just leaving it the few days or so to see any change first...thanks bish.
bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 12:28 PM
joeninety thanks bro,im aware that with mg the colour comes back but with N shortage once the leaf has gone yellow theres no turning back.
joeninty
Aug 31 2008, 12:41 PM
always learning

thats the beauty of uk420
bizzaro73
Aug 31 2008, 01:26 PM
tis but the truth,thanks for poppin in to add tho bro.
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 06:09 PM
starting with the EQ,it seams like my early queen and AK's are starting to look unwell!...i had this apparent problem with my last AK and it ruined the smoke totaly.
Iv dosed with epsoms 5 days ago roughly now,and sprayed epsoms last night..also they been fed grow and bloom at 2 ml grow,3 ml bloom per liter....2 weeks in flower.
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 06:10 PM
this is the top of one of the early queens
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 06:21 PM
nutha but this ones of the ak clones
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 06:23 PM
same plant
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 06:24 PM
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jiffa
Sep 5 2008, 06:27 PM
looks like light burn mate
e2a not so sure looks like it in pic 2
Bit of a strong feed only 2 weeks in.Could be a case of overfert as the tips on the one are burnt. 908
DOGGTOFFY
Sep 5 2008, 06:27 PM
still looks like epsoms to me ... thats strange ..... has it cleared up any since you dosed last?
i still could be wrong though....
last pic is slightly overfed too..
still biobizz soil?
how annoying for you bro.. hope someone experienced can help you more.....
psssst:

change soil next grow
Owderb
Sep 5 2008, 06:30 PM
2 3 and 4 look like light/heat stress, 5 looks overfed on N
Owd
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 06:30 PM
hi all,yeh maybe a tad over fed...but this epsoms is the problem..i aint seen any change since dosing..im thinkin of re spraying tmrw evening!
defo no light burn its been well high to rule it out if ya follow.
thing is i had a similar problem with my AK on last grow and it turned out shit!!
It will turn out shit if it was overferted mate as it slows the budding process up.
These are deffo overfed, are the pots staying wet longer than youd expect as well? ATB 908
DOGGTOFFY
Sep 5 2008, 06:40 PM
i think
only the last pic is overfed..
and not by much really
I think it will be fine...
preparing for the slatin'

how much epsoms did you give them???
oooooh 1 more post 908!!!!
Bish
Sep 5 2008, 06:45 PM
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better make it for you then dogtoffy
Not overfed by much? Its well over in my book.
What do you put the burnt tip in pic 3 down too? As that also is nute burn in my book.
Some pics do look like heat stress but over nuting can cause that look.On the one plant not sure which pic you can see these signs but look lower on the plant and its there too so thats why I thought not heat stress. ATB 908
Owderb
Sep 5 2008, 06:59 PM
If it was nute burn the tips on nearly all the leaves would be brown but they are not
The only one that looks overferted on grow nutes(N) is the clawing plant
Still looks like heat stress to me, overferting doesnt burn the odd leaf like that
Other things can lock Mg out like calcium
Could even be just as simple as shit compost
Owd
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 07:02 PM
thanks bish...yeh yeah its defo been overfed...fed epsoms at reccomended doses from here.
im using westland plus compost
DOGGTOFFY
Sep 5 2008, 07:03 PM
whoo hoo 1000 eh?!
pic 3 hmm poss ... only 2 leaves though? no other burnt tips....... front leaf is yellowing out round edges more than tips...could it be under fed???
true.... i wouldn't give that last pic much more N... but..... i have seen much worse than that produce huuuuuge buds.
the main prob is MG def. as can be clearly seen in the leaves....
wheather its lock out or something else im not sure.
but if you've dosed the right amount and they havn't cleared up i don't know what to suggest next ..
maybe a flush?
wait for pros
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 07:04 PM
oh the pic with the clawing was taken just after watering/feeding...hence the droop
grandad
Sep 5 2008, 07:07 PM
heres some useless imput its just what i do.
in 15 years growing many different types of cannabis i have never fed epson salts before around day 20, the reason being my first grow showed signs after 21days and once i found what it was i have done whats needed since.
i use biobizz at the rate of.
1 ml per litre water units.
week .. grow bloom
1 1 1
2 2 1
3 3 2
4 3 3
5 4 4 till finish
DOGGTOFFY
Sep 5 2008, 07:09 PM
QUOTE(grandad @ Sep 5 2008, 08:07 PM)

heres some useless imput its just what i do.
in 15 years growing many different types of cannabis i have never fed epson salts before around day 20, the reason being my first grow showed signs after 21days and once i found what it was i have done whats needed since.
i use biobizz at the rate of.
1 ml per litre water units.
week .. grow bloom
1 1 1
2 2 1
3 3 2
4 3 3
5 4 4 till finish
christ you must get through some grow

although my cheese prob would of loved that schedule as they yellowed out real bad..
Owderb
Sep 5 2008, 07:10 PM
QUOTE(bizzaro73 @ Sep 5 2008, 08:04 PM)

oh the pic with the clawing was taken just after watering/feeding...hence the droop
But thats not droop its clawing, watering shouldnt do that
Owd
QUOTE(bizzaro73 @ Sep 5 2008, 07:21 PM)

nutha but this ones of the ak clones
The one overfert with N last pic is one example to point to this problem
The others I believe are also overfed but maybe these have been affected by the bloom feed being over which it is IMO at that stage in westlands.
Overfert in bloom
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?auto...downloadfile=60Some healthy looking leaves with burnt tip. 908
grandad
Sep 5 2008, 07:17 PM
the grow contains molasses hence i was advised by biobizz to increase as we go, i dont want shit about that comment because i cant find it. but now i use molasses and teas and i use hardly any grow but i still have over 1litre so i'll see it out. i use molasses by the tablespoon not ml.
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 07:46 PM
grandad thanks for ur input,been a while bro,hope your well.
and thanks to everyone else,this info is starting to paint a clearer picture forme now.
im not too stressed just yet but il have to lower all doses of food and just sit it out.
DOGGTOFFY
Sep 5 2008, 07:59 PM
just too add ... because they are diff strains .. they will need to be fed a separate feed schedules to match the plants individual requirements...
that is why i think one is over fed and the others poss under.
Hope you get ya chevrons sorted.
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 08:00 PM
yeh bro i been feedin as they or i thought they needed...and wet dry..,i dunno!!!
bizzaro73
Sep 5 2008, 09:44 PM
QUOTE(Scrumpy Jack @ Sep 5 2008, 09:03 PM)

hey dude Whazzup!! im sure youl get to the bottom of it mate, sorry i cant offer any words of wisdom

lotta blinkin use you are then eh???...

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Jon Clobert
Sep 5 2008, 10:21 PM
Hiya Bizz man !
I've been usin a water sprinklin rose head and bubbled water/feed for 24 h ! then a good stir with a whisk before fillin can .. ..
ma last pot up wen i sieved my soil thru a chip pan basket, i took loads of bits of crap out ma soil and soil went nice n fluffy
i use same as u , , westlands adv +. .
do u wet plants soil up with a litre of water or so , then come back and add other 1 litres at a time till soil damp at drain holes and a lil trickle !
im sorry if u already doo the above,, or if its wrong fittin advice ! just tryin to think out loud n help m8..
very

J.C
bizzaro73
Sep 6 2008, 06:42 PM
thanks JC...tio be honest i did go out n buy a rose for my watering can not long after i seen you got one..

...guess i thought thats a good idea.
anyway iv looked in on the girls and still no change since yesterday so????...
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