plum
Aug 29 2008, 03:52 PM
Hey Guys i am in the process of getting everything together, so that i can grow my own. I am going to make a grow box, i have a good size with which to do it.
But can you guys suggest some good strains for me to look into. Here is what i want. I want a plant, that isn't too hard to grow, that will give a good yield and one that we will be able to take from seedling to harvest in under 12 weeks. I am aware that as this is my first time growing i will probably not get a great yeild, but i am taking no shortcuts, i am doing this well, i will buy any nutrients needed and keep temperature, humidity and water levels strictly monitored. as Well as a good pH balance.
This is what i ahve looked at so far, a couple of auto flowering plants, Auto Ak47 mostly and a couple of other lowlife/lowryder plants from there, but having done more research it seems like there are quite a few non auto flowering plants that will be finished in around a similar time period but i am worried i am jsut getting mixed up.
What do you guys suggest, Is lemon skunk a possibility because i just tried that stuff and it was amazing.
PLUM
ReverendRFB
Aug 29 2008, 04:02 PM
ah yes.. always the eternal question...
If its your first grow.. use bagseed. If you have any... sometimes the results can be suprising.. and you dont have to worry about your expensive seed investment dying on your first try. With that said... Go for the lemon skunk! I have some trainwreck going right now that I'm going to make into mothers. White widow/Rhino is a good strain too. Try 'early misty' too.... it seems to grow very easily, gives a good yeild, and will be ready in under 12 weeks... and the seeds aren't too expensive.
Good luck on the grow mate!
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
Aug 29 2008, 04:04 PM
Sk#1 from sensi seeds is cheap and easy for a first timer. Dunno who does the lem sk but it sounds nice.
I would leave the autoflowering plants and use regular seeds. Find a plant you like and keep a cutting, then you can grow it again and again.
tony89
Aug 29 2008, 04:05 PM
hi m8 am new at this my self but i think indica strains r best because there more compacted and fat buds mhich i like i would stay away from autoflowering plants seems a bit dogdy well i dont know much , once uv growin once youl know what your lookin for . tony
Nausicca
Aug 29 2008, 04:06 PM
As above, any Skunk #1 or similar will do you fine.
tony89
Aug 29 2008, 04:08 PM
what r bagseeds
Nausicca
Aug 29 2008, 04:09 PM
Seeds you find in bags of dealer weed.
plum
Aug 29 2008, 04:22 PM
What kind of size will i need, for a decent yield. I have been looking at a video for White Rhino and it looks huge. I don't think i am going to go for bagseed, as i don't know what i'll be getting. But is the general concensus not to do a lowryder.
Great White Shark
White Rhino
Misty
Lemon Skunk
Lemon x AK
any other great ones you can suggest.
Also i have been looking at the the strains, is there anywhere that has a list off the strains, and there stats like. Dimensions needed for a good growth, and other things like that.
PLUM
plum
Aug 29 2008, 04:48 PM
ANother question, what kind of yield should i be able to expect with the large (a) budbox in ideal conditions, i know i won't reach there but i want to have something to aim for.
PLUM
Hashishin
Aug 29 2008, 04:54 PM
The answer to many of your questions are not definate as there are too many variable factors to consider. One thing is for sure. you dont want to be forking out a fortune on seeds for your first grow, so I would check out the cheaper seedbanks like Nirvana or something to see if any of their seed selection takes your fancy.
H.T.
Weedsmoker
Aug 29 2008, 05:10 PM
Why are you knocking autoflowering strains? They are great for a beginners, some are very hardy, there is no potting on, no change in light cycles and you can yield an oz a plant and it is much better than any weed I have brought in Dam let alone from an English dealer (if grown properly). Also they are ready within 10 weeks.
I grow other things apart from LR strains and I still think they are great to put in the grow room in spare spaces while you are vegging other plants on 18/6.
How many people here that knock autoflowering strains have tried something like LR2? I agree its not as good as something like cheese but hey its not that bad!
(puts helmet on & waits for people to start caning him)
Weeds.
young blood
Aug 29 2008, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(Weedsmoker @ Aug 29 2008, 06:10 PM)

Why are you knocking autoflowering strains? They are great for a beginners, some are very hardy, there is no potting on, no change in light cycles and you can yield an oz a plant and it is much better than any weed I have brought in Dam let alone from an English dealer (if grown properly). Also they are ready within 10 weeks.
I grow other things apart from LR strains and I still think they are great to put in the grow room in spare spaces while you are vegging other plants on 18/6.
How many people here that knock autoflowering strains have tried something like LR2? I agree its not as good as something like cheese but hey its not that bad!
(puts helmet on & waits for people to start caning him)
Weeds.
yer i agree with weedsmoker this is a lowryder
Click to view attachment
Grimweeder
Aug 29 2008, 05:30 PM
most plants out there will be done in 12 weeks if you give them 2-3 weeks vegg time, and 9 weeks flower,
the white berry by paradise seeds i was able to harvest in 47 days flower an gave 2 weeks veg so the whole cycle for those was around 9 weeks it was easy to grow an gave some nice frosty bud, yeild was around average giving me about 2oz of dried bud off of each, but thats nothing to complain about.
thers a few notorious big yeilders out there but sometimes its down to grow technique etc
you could grow something like power plant or skunk1 for an easy big yeild although weather they would yeild considerably more than the white berry for your first time i dunno mate.
if you want something quick then white berry is the one an yeilds arnt dissapointing the flower period is actually 50 days as the breeder states but you can harvest a few days early if you want to.
heres a pic for ya
good luck choosing theres thousands that would suit your requirments
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
Aug 29 2008, 05:34 PM
QUOTE(Weedsmoker @ Aug 29 2008, 06:10 PM)

Why are you knocking autoflowering strains?
(puts helmet on & waits for people to start caning him)
Who is knocking em?
Better for a budbox to use some non autoflowering strains imho and use the space well. As to your yield plum, that depends on how much light you give em. For example If ya use a 400watt to flower and if ya get 350g to 400g of buds, you've done a excellent job.
As Whassup pointed out there are many variables to think about. What medium, nutes, seed or clone, sog or scrog, and lighting etc.! These all affect your yield to some degree too. Anasthesia could be a nice easy indica plum indeed.
plum
Aug 29 2008, 05:34 PM
I still have a couple weeks to decide. I will read everything i can, but i ask again, if i can (and i know i can't first time) if i can grow with optimal conditions, humidity, heat, water, light nutrients, what would be a good yield to hope for using a budbox large as a size guide. We will take it easy at first but if we are successful we will probably want to grow more but using the same space.
The debate continues then, Lowryder or non lowryder, thanks for your replies but it has made it harder because now i have to consider lowryders again, haha.
Money isn't our most limiting factor as there are four of us. Size is our biggest limitor but even that i thought with the bud box large size a large yield would be possible. CArry on giving us your thoughts. Thanks for all the adive.
PLUM
Grimweeder
Aug 29 2008, 05:35 PM
QUOTE(young blood @ Aug 29 2008, 06:22 PM)

QUOTE(Weedsmoker @ Aug 29 2008, 06:10 PM)

Why are you knocking autoflowering strains? They are great for a beginners, some are very hardy, there is no potting on, no change in light cycles and you can yield an oz a plant and it is much better than any weed I have brought in Dam let alone from an English dealer (if grown properly). Also they are ready within 10 weeks.
I grow other things apart from LR strains and I still think they are great to put in the grow room in spare spaces while you are vegging other plants on 18/6.
How many people here that knock autoflowering strains have tried something like LR2? I agree its not as good as something like cheese but hey its not that bad!
(puts helmet on & waits for people to start caning him)
Weeds.
yer i agree with weedsmoker this is a lowryder
Click to view attachmentid have to agree to so many people diss the lowryder strains but most havnt actually grown it with any real success, most that i know who have grown it say its a great lil plant, i think its a good lil grow but wouldnt do it as my main grow jus as sum early bud on the side, but the results are still some real nice bud when grown properly.
(il put a few pics up of my lw crosses when they are done in a few weeks)
QUOTE(ReverendRFB @ Aug 29 2008, 05:02 PM)

ah yes.. always the eternal question...
If its your first grow.. use bagseed. If you have any... sometimes the results can be suprising.. and you dont have to worry about your expensive seed investment dying on your first try.
Completely 100% disagree.
you dont have a clue about the gentics and they most likey came from a plant that hermied meaning theirs a high chance the seeds will also be hermies. plus you can pick up seeds for as little as £15-£20 hardly an expensive investment.
my advice is have a look through the available ranges at seedsman and choose one that YOU like the sound of then read some diaries on 420 and get growing
t1
Grimweeder
Aug 29 2008, 05:38 PM
QUOTE(T1 @ Aug 29 2008, 06:35 PM)

QUOTE(ReverendRFB @ Aug 29 2008, 05:02 PM)

ah yes.. always the eternal question...
If its your first grow.. use bagseed. If you have any... sometimes the results can be suprising.. and you dont have to worry about your expensive seed investment dying on your first try.
Completely 100% disagree.
you dont have a clue about the gentics and they most likey came from a plant that hermied meaning theirs a high chance the seeds will also be hermies. plus you can pick up seeds for as little as £15-£20 hardly an expensive investment.
my advice is have a look through the available ranges at seedsman and choose one that YOU like the sound of then read some diaries on 420 and get growing
t1
yip my bagseed is always shit unless it came from my own grown weed
buy some proper genetics an get what you actually want from the grow, even if its ur first, if you do it properly you get good results..... i did.
yer an seedsman seeds is good an cheap seedbank/breeder, try their original skunk1 feminized for 20 quid that should give some good yeilds an done in 12 weeks if you veg for 3-4 weeks otherwise try the white berry as i said before,
plum
Aug 29 2008, 05:40 PM
Just pitching in for plum:
We're a naturally undecisive bunch. Give a name, describe the high and we'll get started very soon
Cheers
ALi
plum
Aug 29 2008, 05:53 PM
We are thinking of either getting the budbox large or making the equivelent of about the same size. We are equally unsire about envirolights or HPS, and wattage, but yield is definately on our mind so we will want to get optimum wattage. I havee been looking through loads of grow diarys but there is so much diversity that i am just lost. So slowly figuring it out by our selves. Just to say there are four of us by the way, Myself: PLUM, Ali who you can see above, Dan another housemate of mine and his brother is also a Grower in Portugal, and finally, another guy who i smoke alot of weed with Tom who i know is another UK420 member but not sure what his username is.
Thanks again for all your help, keep it going.
The debate continues, Lowryder, over non lowryder. Possible yeilds.
Lemon SKunk is all ready a favorite because i love the flavour, but it probably just a pipe dream so keep suggesting.
PLUM
P.S. uk420 is amazing, i was never expecting this sort of feedback. The Weed community prove thier worth once again!!!!
Nausicca
Aug 29 2008, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(plum @ Aug 29 2008, 06:53 PM)

We are thinking of either getting the budbox large or making the equivelent of about the same size. We are equally unsire about envirolights or HPS, and wattage, but yield is definately on our mind so we will want to get optimum wattage. I havee been looking through loads of grow diarys but there is so much diversity that i am just lost.
The grow diary in my sig is of a Budbox XXL (basically the same as the large), with a 600W HPS, check it out if you want, it might be helpfull.
plum
Aug 31 2008, 02:18 PM
Hello once again, i really do still want to hear opinions, so far the favorite is going to be the Lemon Skunk, i think we are going to pass on the lowryders for now and maybe include them in a later grow.
Is Lemon Skunk a relatively easy grow for a begginer, if not what is?
What are the best yields you have got afrom a single plant, namely Lemon Skunk but all strains yeilds appreciated. I am starting to get a good idea of everything i need to do for an indoor soil grow.
Its just which plant to grow is the hard choice.
Thanks for all replies so far, please keep 'em coming.
PLUM
P.S. i saw some guy in Holland smoking black papers, they were not blunts or tabacco leaf, just colored king size papers, does anyone have any idea what they are and where i can get them
Nausicca
Aug 31 2008, 03:31 PM
You asked me to comment so i will: If its your first grow you cant go wrong with Skunk #1 depending on where you get them from they can be quite cheap, and you dont want to spend too much on your first lot of seeds while youre still learning the ropes, incase it all goes wrong. Do a search for Skunk grows in the diary section to get some ideas.
Heres a link to some Skunk info on the Seedsman site:
http://www.seedsman.com/en/cannabis-seeds/skunk
felix_dzerjinski
Sep 2 2008, 01:30 PM
RSC have an interesting new Malawi that could do well indoors
callywally
Sep 2 2008, 02:23 PM
depends on you pal
if i was you & had my own gaff ( fucking p's) i would grow ak47 & a indica something like lemon stinky and 1 plant of a hybrid probobly a bubblegum in a drobe but hey thats just me
good luck & make sure you dont go bragging your growing
take it easy
Arbuscule
Sep 2 2008, 02:46 PM
my 2p's
Skunk#1It's cheap, hardy, forgiving and a fair yielder. Compares favourably with more expensive strains in terms of taste, yield and potency
Beautiful smoke in fact. Usually I wouldn't pay much attention to seed company claims, but I like what Seedsman says about Skunk#1 - that it's a strain to measure other strains against. It's compared favourably ime to Mazaar, Pog and Maple Leaf Indica so far for me and I've popped another one now - couldn't help it
hantshaze
Sep 2 2008, 02:56 PM
sensi seeds shiva shanty is a good starting strain.
Good yield
Nice strong high
Quite compact
And about £20.
It was one of my first strains i grew.
Very easy to grow + good results.
Good luck bud. Hh.
stanky
Sep 2 2008, 03:07 PM
i agree with leaving lowrider alone some may like it but most who have grew lots of different things realise its not the most potent thing ya can get. i think ya should look at the link at bottom of page seedman is a trustworthy and quite cheep . his skunk #1 is cheep as and is quite nice the yield will supprise you have a look at HIS LINE OF SEED among others good luck. stank
smoketilluchoke
Sep 2 2008, 03:24 PM
weedsmoker wot do u mean better than any weed u bought in dam
did u buy from the grasshopper
plum
Sep 2 2008, 10:08 PM
Thanks for all the info, Skunk #1 is definately a possibility as its apparently is so reliable, beginner friendly and good yield, but there are still so many possibilities.
Keep everything you have coming, i think we are getting closer and closer to starting, i will do a grow diary when i begin, so if you want you can follow my diary and see how i do. I think we now know our supplier for everything except our seeds, namely Greens. I think we are going to do it in a modded Bud Box, with a 600W HPS, with i think an enviro light for Veg, we have a guy we can get the lights because he has just stopped growing, and said we can use his lights. with an extraction unit with a phat carbon filter. Still got alot of reading to, for example how to get a good control over temperature and humidity. A quick question if there is a grow diary that any of you know which is the perfect grow diary, please let me know. Something that does all the little things you can do to grow as effectively as possible. Like i have sean people put plastic bags over there plants but haven't yet understood excatly why they do it.
Anyway keep it all going guys. With all your tips i hope i will be able to have a great grow with a great grow diary.
Cheers
PLUM
stanky
Sep 2 2008, 10:45 PM

man you cant just go telling a grower who stoped your growing. get ya lights from a store say to mate you had change of heart cuz of all the busts. TELL NO ONE NOT YOUR MOM NOT NOONE GROW SAFE!!!!! stank
Budo
Sep 2 2008, 11:33 PM
yeah thats true dont tell anyone

And i have grown lemon skunk, and bloody loved it , the smell and the flavour, i even cut it like maybe a week early and it was still beautiful man
and i am growing white rhino now, and so far am pretty satisfied with it.
Good luck whatever you do
plum
Sep 3 2008, 01:23 AM
Cheers Budo, Yeah i think lemon skunk is a high possibility. Just that flavour is so tempting. You have some great grow diaries i will definately be following what you are doing..
PLUM
ReverendRFB
Sep 3 2008, 05:30 AM
QUOTE(T1 @ Aug 29 2008, 10:35 AM)

QUOTE(ReverendRFB @ Aug 29 2008, 05:02 PM)

ah yes.. always the eternal question...
If its your first grow.. use bagseed. If you have any... sometimes the results can be suprising.. and you dont have to worry about your expensive seed investment dying on your first try.
Completely 100% disagree.
you dont have a clue about the gentics and they most likey came from a plant that hermied meaning theirs a high chance the seeds will also be hermies. plus you can pick up seeds for as little as £15-£20 hardly an expensive investment.
my advice is have a look through the available ranges at seedsman and choose one that YOU like the sound of then read some diaries on 420 and get growing
t1
Ouch!
I agree, I'm just a noob... I garcefully bow.
But yes.. if you are going to do anything.. do it right and buy some good lookin seeds from the link at the bottom of the page.
cant go wrong.
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