Im gonna order some formulex in a week or two and im wondering if you add this to clones before they root or after they root, not even sure think it is a foliar spray?

What im basically trying to do is generate explosive root growth pretty much in the first week of flowerig clones taken from a mother after they root, basically when they root i flower them after 3 days of vegging once rooted.

Heard of many different products including rhizatonic which i use, Oxyplus which i also use, going to order formulex, and was considering Voodoo Juice also, the latter i am unsure about as I am not sure if voodoo juice can be used in my Ecosystem.

It is basically paramount that I establish a good root growth during flowering early on to enable good uptake and make the most of the eco, just trying to find the best product to do this, any help would be great.

ayup PS93....why not keep it simple bro?...i just use clonex...which iv had EXELLENT results with..and vitalink bio-plus..its like a weak feed for cuttings/small seedlings.

i have heard good shit about these other products....rhizotonic n such like but id air on keep it simple and get ur technique down solid like then ya should be away eh!..hope this helps some.

my mate uses voodoo in a bubbler and swears by it . reckons its the dogs

i just use rhitztonic and have a great root system

Thanks matey, I have clonex but was under the impression this just helps root them by hormone stimulants, rather than create loads of root growth, no problem cloning, only ever lose about 5 from 200 taken every 2 months.

I normally just use water and they root in 6 days, would you say clonex increase root mass in relation to cloning? if so will use clonex on all cuts taken and perhaps use rhizatonic which is a great product for first two weeks of flowering perhaps.

Edited for spelling.

Thanks Jiffa, lots of people use it which made me wonder whether it is better than Rhizatonic or used with Rhizatonic, site claims 90% more root growth than other products, bloody Rhizatonic is dear as well, 28 quid a bottle.

I wonder if i can use the two in conjuction with each other, might be bloody brilliant or is might be to much for clones, might cancel out each other, unless i try one and if that is not doing well swop to the other.

well ya said it ya'sen PS93,seams you got it down no problem,you just want MASSES or roots right?..

well all i can vouch for is the clonex bro...not bothered with other stuff as yet but then this is only my third grow ya digg,and second cloning session....dude your Waaaaaay ahead of me in most areas it seams......il be comin to you for advice on cloning from now on MASTER!....

in a bit ps.

Na.. im still a novice, only been growing less than a year, infact didn't know anything about growing till last september when I joined here, 5th grow now i think, although i read allot here and elsewhere. I done a 15 hour marathon once on reading plant problems whilst high as a kite , might try the two together both Voodoo and Rhizatonic see how that pans out, in for a penny in for a pound.

Lets hope the roots riot like mad, he's hoping .

post your results here PS , id like to see the outcome of that

Will do matey, about two weeks time will be using it.

Must dash in a min, got a pool match down me club, few beers try and look normal, although stoned, should be fun eh .

i hate that , trying to be not stoned

Heya Pot , chap i no growing for a long time , swears by 4ml Formulex 8ml ritzo from the off , watched him do it even tried it once meself on what i thought were a hard to clone strain , imho bombarding um early un is not the way , in fact i wouldn't put another cutting of his in me room , they shoot yea but then lagg behind ime , as a standalone product i really like formulex , all i use when hyro rooting um .
Edit to add , when he roots like that also , mine catch up and hit the flower room before his

Are you reffering to them after they rooted or before, plan on using both once rooted, never normally use any products until rooted as they root well enough in water?

Formulex is not a rooting agent - it's just a mild all-round plant food for young plants that's formulated to be not too strong for them - you can emulate Formulex by making up a very dilute solution of Grow nutes.

Interesting thread this, i've been using formulex for 3 or 4 years for starting seedlings at 2ml a litre. just last week i have bought rhizotonic and i'm still unsure when to use it.

I was thinking about starting my seedlings as usual in 1''cubes, ph'd and soaked in formulex.Then when ready i would soak the 3''cubes in formulex as a feed and rhizotonic as a root stimulator. once these big cubes had rooted i would feed the normal veg nutes with rhizotonic until flower.

ive always started my cuts on formulex/riz, always a weak solution

heres wat they look like after 10/12 days


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peace,
newbudda.

looks good, is that coco? Whal ml/litre of each?

its an organic root riot cube they cost around 5 for a tray of 24
formulex i start at 2ml/per liter.
and riz 4ml per liter.

peace newbudda.

Hiya newbudda,

Very nice looking cutting there me old m8,I use Formulex at 3ml and Rhiztonic at 4ml per litre of water and I get the same beautiful explosive white hairy roots, the difference is, I use compost, but checking my cuttings root systems only this afternoon and they look very nice and healthy.

I have also got Vila Link Bio Plus and Vila Link Bio Pak and have had satisfying results from all when used in conjunction with Formulex. When people say that you can basically make a copy of Formulex by using a weak solution of A+B grow nutrients, this is not true because Formulex has a lot of micro nutrients and I believe that it also has some beneficial fungi added, which A+B grow nutes do not.

Everyone, has to start growing the herb with minimal or no knowledge at all to begin with. This is because of the pathetic way, our own governments look up on canna and therefore knowledge is restricted to most growers having to learn the sacred rituals which will eventually reward you with a bountiful harvest and most growers have to learn on there own because of the police, paranoia, theives and the list goes on. So for most growers, growing herb is a lonely hobby and if it was not for the internet, most people would not have a clue how to grow decent herb with out a decent horticultural or gardening back round. Therefore I genuinely think, most growers learn by trial and error. If there was a holy grail and it grew the fastest roots, grew an amazing veg cycle and then flowered like nothing seen before and it was all 100% guaranteed as long as the growing environment was optimal. Then every single one of us growers would buy this product and no other. Unfortunately, this is not the situation and I will bet that the longer you have been growing the more products we try, because we are all looking for the Holy Grail that works for our own individual needs and is the most optimal for your environment.

I have over 20 years gardening knowledge and most of that growing herbs, but 3ml of Formulex and 4ml of Rhiztonic in 1 litre of lukewarm water and misted with the same solution once a week. That gives me personally, the whitest and healthiest over all roots on my cuttings. The type of rooting hormone does not seem to matter as long as I feed and mist with Formulex and Rhiztonic I still have good results. I have used Clonex, Baby Bio, B&Q Organic and Strike.

Sorry for waffling, I'm on my ice bong with a nice jar of my SS Haze.


Take care,
GG

i use clonex for my clones into 1inch cubes soaked in ph adjusted formulex mix,as soon as ive got some roots showing i use ionic grow putting the 1inch cudes into 3inch cubes,then they go into the dwc system.

Seems to work fine for me.

The way I have just done in an aeroponic propagator is clonex on cuts, plain RO water untill roots start to form after 3/4 days, 1ml per 1 rhizatonic ( I just add this to the existing water) 3/4 days then up to half strength for 3/4 days etc until I'm at 4ml per l and by 20 days I replace the water with fresh PH adjusted water with 1/4 strength nutes and 1/2 strength rhizatonic.


huge healthy roots.