Rambone
Aug 14 2008, 09:50 PM
I've got severe clawing on one of my plants. There's also very slight tip burn but not sure if they are related. I had a few high temps a couple of weeks ago and thought maybe it was still to hot and this is what was causing them to curl. I've got the temps much lower now, with some help from the british weather and a fan, but i've still got severe clawing.
I think perhaps im going too heavy handed on the nutes but thought i'd ask for a confirmation.
Here's a pic. Sorry for quality
jiffa
Aug 14 2008, 09:56 PM
overfeeding , to much N
Rambone
Aug 14 2008, 09:59 PM
Should I cut down on grow or bloom? Sorry my bottles of biobizz are in the loft and too late to climb into the loft now or I would look for myself.
Also, would overfeeding slow down flowering at all?
jiffa
Aug 14 2008, 09:59 PM
grow
to much nitrogen will slow down flowering mate , i missed that
Rambone
Aug 14 2008, 10:02 PM
Wicked. Thanks a lot man =)
Do you think overfeeding could slow down flowering? The bud in that pic is 4 weeks in!!! Believe it or not.
jiffa
Aug 14 2008, 10:04 PM
yes mate
what are you feeding per liter
Rambone
Aug 14 2008, 10:09 PM
And it all starts to make sense

Im doing 1ml/l on grow and was up to 4ml/l on bloom following ot1's schedule. They will have been in flower 5 weeks on sunday.
Do you think I should completely cut the grow out for a couple of waters and seriously cut down the bloom?
Cheers for your help man
jiffa
Aug 14 2008, 10:12 PM
i wouldnt of thought 1ml was enough to do that, im sure its to much n
what you been feeding up to now
like the last three weeks what was you feeding from then till now
Rambone
Aug 14 2008, 10:19 PM
Since they went to flower they have recieved:
Week 1
1ml/l Grow
1ml/l Bloom
Week 2
1ml/l Grow
2ml/l Bloom
Also a dose of epsoms (level teaspoon per 5L water (with my nutes in)
Week 3
2ml/l Grow for 1 watering
1ml/l Grow for other watering/s
3ml/l Bloom
Week 4
1ml/l Grow
4ml/l Bloom
E2A
Before Flower
They were getting 2ml/l Grow in veg up until a week before the switch when I gave them 1ml/l Grow.
Hope ya understand all that. Tried to lay it out as easily as possible
leroy
Aug 14 2008, 10:53 PM
is that your own guide or have you seen
Ot1's guide cos yours looks wrong to me,
swapping your nutes around is gonna stress them and lock out certain nutes and giving them epsoms in week 2 is treating them for mg which if they havent got a mg def then your gonna stress the fuck out of them and lock out all sorts
maybe
i'm wrong (and someone will correct me if i am), cos
i'm still learning and sick plants is not my strong point but your feeding schedule looks all wrong
try Ot1's guide and i think you'll find they'll look better, hope this helps
dr rockster
Aug 14 2008, 10:56 PM
Well the plant is very green but you have no tip burn,hmm?
Are you operating a proper wet and dry cycle?
As Jiffa said too much N, as you are only feeding 1ml of grow it might be from all the bloom nutes. The bloom does contain nitrogen too. I've had plants that won't even have 1ml of grow without ram horning, but thats more Sativas, what strain is it in the piccy?
leroy
Aug 14 2008, 11:11 PM
QUOTE(KC33 @ Aug 14 2008, 11:58 PM)

As Jiffa said too much N, as you are only feeding 1ml of grow it might be from all the bloom nutes. The bloom does contain nitrogen too. I've had plants that won't even have 1ml of grow without ram horning, but thats more Sativas, what strain is it in the piccy?
AHA, is that why my sats leaves are curling over and looking shit, too much grow or bloom

......Arjans haze on 1mlg+2mlb.......week 6 flower and looking rather dry and not a healthy green, never grown a sat before, it was dumped on me
Rambone
Aug 14 2008, 11:19 PM
I gave them a dose of epsoms at week 2 as the lower leaves were going yellow with green veins. I know OT1 advises to do this in week 3 but they were showing signs of MG def so I though I should give it to them then.
HAHA, thought i had been following OT1's schedule. First time I read it I thought it said at week three change to 3ml/l of bloom. My bad

There is ever so slight tip burn but very little.
The strain is afghani #1 from sensi seesd.
What do you advise I do then? Cut the bloom down to 1ml/l for a watering or two and cut out the Grow for the next couple of waterings?
Your all life savers....Well....plant savers
jiffa
Aug 15 2008, 07:03 AM
i would cut down on the both few a few watering and see if it changes
im a hydro man myself so not sure about biobizz , someone will come by and let you know what to do
How's the rest of the plant looking????? From looking at that top bit of the plant i'd say drop the grow on the next water and half the bloom. See how she fairs. I don't think i've ever had a plant upto 4ml/litre of bloom. Although like the good Dr says there isn't any tip burn?
I can't think of anything else it could be but too much nitrogen, never seen ram horning due to anything else.
Rambone
Aug 15 2008, 10:34 AM
No there IS a slight ammount of tip burn. Very little though.
The rest of the plant is affected but not near as bad as in the photo.
I will go down to .5ml/l on grow and 2ml/l on the bloom. Will those leaves correct themelves or will only new growth not be affected by the clawing???
Cheers again all =)
Rambone
Aug 15 2008, 05:55 PM
BUMP
Need watering today and really worried im going to make them worse
elstonite
Aug 16 2008, 12:01 PM
QUOTE(Rambone @ Aug 15 2008, 06:55 PM)

BUMP
Need watering today and really worried im going to make them worse
just water them m8 , no feed
wait till you see signs that she s hungry again before you feed her,, for 5 weeks 12/12 she dont look like she flowering hardly , by five weeks you should have quiet big buds formed , seems you have a problem there?
scraglor
Aug 16 2008, 12:04 PM
don't give em any grow for a couple of watering, or until they start to lighten up a bit, then go to 1ml gr, there's prolly plenty of nitrogen in the compost already, if they needed it, 1ml gr wouldn't make them claw. you only need to start upping the bloom to 2/3ml per litre when you see proper bud developement, so as they are i would be only giving 1ml of bloom.
Rambone
Aug 16 2008, 02:05 PM
Cheers all =) Come on plants you can pull through this
showgirl
Aug 30 2008, 05:28 PM
Hay Rambone ,I used biog/b last grow and also got off track with ot's schedule and noticed a drop in yield and thought it was due to using to much (I'm not sure). those leaves look like overwatering. Most of the grow pics I've seen of other growers usually will have a plant in the gr with the claw effect because of overwatering say one time and they stay that way!!

Hope this helps you.

Showgirl
Rambone
Sep 1 2008, 05:36 PM
Possibly overwatering too. The plants are looking much better but still a bit of clawing. Will try leaving that plant for a bit longer between watering.
scraglor
Sep 1 2008, 09:12 PM
if they're really clawed over then they might not return to how they were, so wouldn't worry too much as long as things aren't getting worse, just don't feed them until they start to show signs of hunger
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