Mazar-i-Sharif outdoors in Spain

Sheberghan garda (sieved resin glands unworked)

Photo 1 - Mazar-i-Sharif indoors
Photo 2 - Sheberghan indoors
Photo 3 - Mazar, Sheb and Dubi of ACE's Yunnanese

Oh for a lump of that in my pipe, that looks right tasty namkha

I better get saving the pennies for these beans

hey we'll be doing all our strains in packs of 12 too - so the Mazar will be 17.50GBP for 12 seeds, which I hope is a bit less painful a price

here's some of that Sheberghan garda ready for smoking - it needs to be worked by hand into actual hashish/chaars ready to smoke - the flavour changes - more sweet and pungent, it gets you even more stoned too
bottom right is the garda - top and left is the same garda worked into balls and a chappati

Wow that looks awesome! Nice price too!

Nice one namkha very good price indeed!

salivating at the thought of yon Hashish

Very nice indeed

Good show preserving these genetics, all credit to you

Definately I'm tempted and will keep an eye on this forum to learn more, nice one

thats a big lump of hash , how many plants went into making that ?

Hi namkha, it looks like you've been busy and fruitful - good show, carry on!
In the days before UK420, I was gifted a Mazaar clone from an old grower. It was possibly the strongest weed I've grown indoors, had a lovely warm and fuzzy narcotic clout to it. But alas, I knew not a thing about Mother plants and clones back then, so she was grown, smoked and subsequently sorely missed
I've smoked a few other "Mazaars", but none of them were in the same league. They did not have that robust and eye-watering "Skunk" smell. Come to think of it, I haven't smelled that smell since the nineties.
<drifts off into a dream of skunks long gone, whilst toting some Diesel>
Urm ... yes well, anyhoo, just wandered if your Mazaar has that good ole stink, the stink of the first Sensi Skunk x 100? So pungent, so utterly head-wrecking! If so, I shall be getting my wallet out reet sharpish.
Good luck with the breeding - sounds like you're taking an interesting approach. If I had the space, I'd take some of them thar Sativas too.

Hey namkha, that Sheberghan garda looks lovely







SK.j

Hey - thanks to everyone for all the postive comments above

Arnold - just to clarify a pretty important point: RSC aren't breeders - we are doing something different i.e. getting traditional strains out to people in their original form... we have two main aims: to make old world flavours and highs available to the masses; and to do what we can to preserve the biodiversity of traditional cannabis cultivars

It's hard for me to answer your question about the smell of the Mazar - you can expect the plants to smell like primo North Afghan charas - and to be very, very resinous and likely with a lot of purple and deep red colouration... the high should be potent, but with the emphasis on indulgently mellow, with a lot of brightness in the head and intense relaxation in the body... the latter qualities being two things lost by the emphasis western selection has placed on THC at the expense of CBD and so on (i.e. med users could benefit from investigating this strain)

edit: just spotted the word "fuzzy" in your description - definitely there is no fuzziness to Sheb or Mazar... a lot of clarity to it, and no dullness, tightness or burnout after a session... I have tested these claims out on plenty of people - all reported the same cleanness to the high

hope that helps, all best

Ngakpa

Cheers namkha - that's just the info I wanted, ta.

hi namkha,

have you seen any of these plants from these seeds fully flowered indoors? im very interested in being able to experience this strain and am wondering about how they stretch indoors, especially as i have a maximum finished plant height of 1.5 metres in my indoor grow space.

thanks

hey Savage - honest answer: for the Affies, nope - but you could check the "Purple Afghan" grows done on some of the other sites for a rough idea of how an unworked Afghan landrace will behave... reading between the lines I think the guy posting those strains got his seeds from Mriko who is working with RSC... I would expect most phenos to do a 2x stretch when they enter flowering so with the compact phenos you should be fine - 35GBP for 25 seeds you ought to get several of those for your money, fingers crossed

thanks namkha,

i have seen the Purple Afghan grow thread, it looks quite manageable, i was surprised at how large and dense the buds were for an unworked landrace. im interested in the 12packs when they become available as i like to grow a number of different strains at a time for personal use and sharing with friends and the 12packs would allow me to try a couple of your varieties.

Interesting looking plants. I am growing the Mazar and Sheberghan now. All plants that came out of the soil had purple stems to start with. After a couple weeks under CFLs, some still have purple stems, with purple leaf stems as well, some have green stems with vertical purple stripes, and some just have green stems. Leaves are broad and stems are thick. Typical Afghan look. No real smell yet, other than typical young plant ganja smell.

Nice one Pops, keep us updated.

Hi Namkha

What would you say the difference in smoke qualities when comparing your Mazar with the Sherbeghan?

Any subtle differences or are they worlds apart?

I have your mazar, and of-course, will now have to buy the Sherbeghan and your other 3 new ones.

Please don't bring any new ones out anymore cos i have to buy them all

Just kidding bro, keep up the good work

hey - the strains were obtained from two different people - we had superb Mazar charas from one, and even better Sheberghan garda from the other

the Sheberghan was stronger and more blissed out - it had an even better smell - more juniper and really classy aromas --- side by side the Mazar had a slightly more raw smell (still very nice mind, just a little more musky) whereas you could smel things like orange essence and cocoa in the Sheberghan garda

the Sheberghan was described as a more compact plant (closer to two meters) with wider leaves and more resin than the standard Mazar strain, which can get over three meters

there is more than one reason for the higher price on the Sheberghan though - we have very few seeds of that, and many many seeds of the Mazar... I am thinking of doing the Mazar even cheaper

we've checked the Sheb seeds carefully and they are live - but they have very thick shells and need plenty of time to pop, preferably using heat mats etc and in the hands of someone experienced. ... nb. days are already very hot in the desert by the time these are sown

the Mazar are quite easy to pop, but can drag their feet a bit early on

Hey namkha, my boss has growing a mazar for about ten years. i've smoked his crop a few times and its nothing like what i've seen from your posts. i've been very interested in this strain for awhile now but what i've come across sounds nothing like your genetics. where could i buy there seeds?

hey - don't know whose Mazar your friend was growing - was it one from a seedbank, or one someone collected from the region themselves? You can find our seeds at Seedsman and some other sites - we'll have our site up when we can get it together... (don't hold your breath)

our Mazar-i-Sharif is a cultivar grown esp. around Mazar and Balkh region - you can see similar kinds of plants in videos made by soldiers etc. in the region - large indicas with long side colas, plants can get over 3 metres ... there are plenty of other varieties grown in these regions no doubt

I might try to find the thing Clarke wrote in Hashish! about the way Afghani charas strains could have developed...

Here's a youtube video of a field in Afghanistan - no idea which area, though you might be able to take a guess if you know which area troops from which countries serve in

hmmm doesn't seem to work - computers confuse me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFBezT4dBAU

Hi,

In celebration of getting my medical marijuana card, I popped five of the mazaris into soil two weeks ago. 3 germinated, no problem. The other two, I don't know. I dug one of them out and will give him another go. I couldn't find the 5th one. The three that germinated are very healthy looking. Here's a photo of them at 16 days from seed into soil (sorry for the shite photo):

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Do you have any thoughts on how these should be germinated? I like doing seeds directly in soil. The last grow I did (my first) I had a very high success rate doing it that way, but this time around I'm not having as much luck.

hey RD - great to see you have got some going -

the Mazar-i-Sharif has shown 90% plus germ rates on all our tests with various growers

for later it is advisable to remember this is a desert strain, and for our Mazar-i-Sahrif this will be its first generation indoors

as The Real Seed Company are collectors not breeders you should take any grow advice we give with a pinch of salt - still, I would advise soaking your seeds before putting them into soil, and using tap water or a very very dilute hydrogen peroxide solution to soak them in

Hello namkha!

I must say I'm very intrigued by this cultivar. Giant "indica" indeed!

Seing as it thrives in cold conditions, do you reckon it would be possible to grow outdoors in Northern Europe? I'm situated quite far north, about 60 degrees north, so I don't have much hope for growing anything outdoors other than autoflowering strains, due to the short summer here.

I'm planning an outdoor grow with Diesel Ryder, but would love to give Mazar-I-Shariff a try if you reckon it's worth a shot
Keep up your great work!

Here's a Mazar from the veg room.
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And this is all the Mazar, 3 weeks-ish under 24hr 250 mh.
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Smell nice already, got a bit hungry in the small pots because I probably left them a few days too long before potting on, otherwise I just water them and they seem happy enough - no sex bits on any are visible yet.

hey - not looking too bad there IH --- any updates?

hey --- I have heard of Spanish growers running this Mazar line outdoors and getting it to finish up at the end of October

mind you 60N is a long way north of Spain eh?

On the whole indica thing --- well, there is all that Vavilov thing you could check out

basically though I subscribe to the Karl Hillig taxonomy of cannabis

there is Cannabis which gets you high --- and that is Cannabis indica
and there is a Eurasian Cannabis genepool which is used exclusively for hemp production and does not have the THC allele and that is Cannabis sativa

Cannabis indica can be subdivided very roughly into NLD and WLD types --- i.e. Narrow Leaflet Dominant and Wide Leaflet Dominant

WLD indicas esp. with short internodes would seem to be an adaptation to desert type conditions with low rainfall --- Afghan etc. WLD occur in the wild cf. Clarke, Schultes

NLD indicas are what we would call sativas --- these are most often seen as ganja cultivars like Thai etc.

mind you even this is all a bit too precise for reality --- where do Malana cultivars fit in this spectrum?

in reality I think the simplest way to classify drug strains is by the way they are used --- sieved charas, handrubbed charas, seeded ganja, unseeded ganja etc.

Hello namkha,
do the afghan farmers remove any of the males from the fields
or let all plants open pollenate and collect seed at harvest prior to sieveing resin?

also, where can the sheberghan be found ,aside from seedsman. {shipping restrictions}
I can find no other retailer that has it.
i do have the mazar,malana,and pahari from vu-du,but they have no others.
not trying to bug,just anxious to get them while they are available.
my goal is simple,maintain a pure seed thru generations for my life and do a hybrid on occasion for fun.
thank you namkha for doing this....it is very important IMO!
peace

scorpion

hey around Christmas

seedboo, seedbay and others shouldcarry our stock

vu-do should have our stuff in a week or two

we will have our own site around Christams too

all best,

Ngakpa

Hi Namkha,

I want to thank you for fulfilling my cannabis fantasy. I've always love looking at cannabis that can grow beyond anybody's expecations!
It's so amazing to me when they defy odds and gravity!

The obsession with Afghanistan Indicas began not so long ago when I stumble over a youtube clip of soldiers in field of monster buds that has been deleted. It was one the most longest and fattest buds I ever saw in my life. I just dropped my jaws and ponder on how anything like that can exist. I believe that it is because they were breeding this strain for thousands of years mainly for toughness and yield.

I believe that the Youtube link that you gave up above has been deleted. I want to know whether if that video was what you meant and that is similar to Mazar-I-Shariff that your company stocks.

GOOD NEWS TO ALL and you Namkha! I FOUND A VIDEO OF IT. CLICK ON IT AND YOU WILL BE AMAZED. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAW.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5d2_1209768660

I live in California so we are blessed with more than plenty sunshine just like Afghanistan. We have a desert like climate here that requires lots of irrigation for crops. Just what this strains needs! The idea of it being Indica Giant just sounds so appealing. I have a seed pack that is on the way. Can't wait to add this very precious strain to my "Going To Be Tree Seeds" collections. It is my goal in life to actually grow a cannabis tree that extends beyond 20 foot in height or possibility 30 or more as my search continues.

I got this strain because of the unadulterated genetics and pictures from the first page that looked similar what the video is. Hopefully I will get buds just as good as the video!

Check out the background in the video 0:24 to 0:30 . WOW WHAT A MASSIVE PLANT! I wonder how tall that was. I'm guessing 13 to 17 foot high.

Just planted 5 of these. Goody good

seedboo, seedbay and others shouldcarry our stock

vu-do should have our stuff in a week or two

we will have our own site around Christams too

all best,

Ngakpa

hey namkha,
any chance the sheberghan will be restocked at vu-du... instock this morning and as i placed an order ,they kicked it out and told me the item was no longer available...hopeful for a restock soon.

scorpion

that looks like 10-11ft to me... but it's hard to judge and i hope i haven't missed the shebs

I'm sure that it can get quite taller than 6 foot no problem. The tallest one in the video would be more than 12 for sure! Who knows they keep on growing until snow comes. *Pardon my spelling* I recalled reading somewhere that Namkha gets his seeds from the Pathsuns. My friend is a Pathsun.. they are tall some what light skinned people with blue eyes who descended from the armies of Alexander the Great and the natives enroute marching to India with the Himalayas as a detour in what I assume is Afghanistan area. There was a recent discovered tomb with 2,700 years old bud in Central Asia. The guy in the tomb had light hair color and blue eyes. Ancient Breeders?

Someone should cross this specifically strain from the video with the biggest sativa strain out there to create the most vigorously bushy hybrid ever. I can't imagine the time spending trimming those super bushy ladies. I'm sure there are more rare amazing genetics to be found at the alleged homeland of cannabis plant. It's very amazing that cannabis culture has been thriving there for thousands of years in the land of total extremes.

hey - vu-du should have the Shebs back in stock soon

yeah - these and the Mazar should produce very big plants outdoors - I think there are pics of the in Spain earlier in the thread... they will look like the ones in the video too I think

start out very wide leaved and get thinner as they go

one of these days I will get round to copying out the paras in Rober Clarke and also Drugs in Afghanistan about charas strains in Balkh and around there

Ugh... Out of the 5 RSC Mazar I Sharifs that I planted only one survived the fungus gnat infestation in my veg chamber. Luckily it's a Male and it's now in the flower room.

Not sure how long pollen is viable, but I've got a nice cut of Flo and F13 that I want to try knocking up once they're in flower. I'd also like to try crossing it with Malawi Gold, but haven't grown any of the latter yet.

Sorry for missing your reply, namkha. Good stuff 60 degrees north is a tad bit up north of Spain, yes The reason for my asking about this strain was that it seemed to cope with snow and cold weather before harvest, but reading further on the subject I gather that it thrives in a relatively dry climate. I can't say that "dry" is the operative word for where I'm located. It's quite the opposite, with cold and wet autumns. I guess autoflowering strains are my only option for growing outdoors at this latitude. A bit of a shame, really, as the summers here are quite warm and nice, though a bit short for growing cannabis outdoors.

I reckon if I'll ever grow some Real Seed strains, it will have to be indoors. And seing as they're all landraces, I reckon I'll have to improve my growing skills before attempting to grow them indoors. I might give the Malawi Mbjane a go, though, as it seems to be a good bet for indoor growers

All the best

namkha, a friend just gifted me with some Mazar-I-Sharif he got as freebies... i guess from gypsy... is that your Mazar ? or just another traveler who got the beans from the "same" region ?

they're different.

nerd- the seeds in question were apparently donated to gypsy from a returning squaddie. our boys are overseeing the mazar region. wholesale looting afaik, but i have some too.

hey - I've spoken to Gypsy recently and yes his Mazar is from a returning British soldier who was serving up in the North --- the strain is the classic squat wide-leaved type with short internodes etc. - look like good plants

our Mazar was obtained from Pashtun/Pathan charas smugglers - that and the Sheberghan are our only lines which were not sourced directly from farmers; the Sheberghan charas was amazing and we only have very few seeds hence the high price; the Mazar charas was also amazing and we have plenty of seeds, hence the nice low price

as I see it Afghanistan and the NWFP are a centre of massive biodiversity with a long history of drug cannabis cultivation - I'm sure all three lines are authentic charas cultivars worthy of further investigation

Here's the fatty. This one outgrew all others, including my g13 x hashplants and afghanis. I'll transplant them to a bigger pot soon but I have serious lack of space in the vegroom atm. I hope it takes a spurt in stretch and i will be able to take a cutting.

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Nice plant Dr Pseudo... that seems like what i was looking..,. at least it looks like what i was looking for on those seeds Are they squat ? From the picture it looks like it has a medium internode space with strong branching.

Namkha, thank you for the input. I decided to order your Mazar just to try your thing I'm now growing gypsy's one until the order arrives... hope to get a full short-fatty cultivar. Do you have an idea of what type of soil they are used to ? Dry/Wet ? sandy ? nute rich/poor ?

By the way... do you keep in contact with that smuggler ? i mean, if you don't breed your seeds, how are you gonna find that guy again to buy seeds ? are you planning to start making your own seeds ?

Thanks mate. They are somewhat squat, hard to tell yet as they haven't started branching yet. I'm avoiding fertilizing as I was told they don't like nitrogen. I'm giving them an alkaline sandy soil with just a bit of ash and bat guano. The same thing with my kullu junglis, I haven't given them anything else besides what was already in the soil from the last run and still they are showing leaf curl and stretch like mofos.

I saw pictures of gypsy's mazaris and they look very different to mine. The leaf shape reminded me of nepalese strains which lead me to think they might have a fair bit of local sativas mixed in them. Looking forward to seeing your pictures!

Hello Namkha,

Thanks for the info the Sheberghan Strain, I think I'm gonna have to get my hands on some while it's still available!!

I was wondering though, how's your website coming along, any idea when it'll be online? If so I will hold out and buy the Shebaerghan seeds direct from you if you think you'll have some left when your site opens!?

It sounds as though the Sheberghan would also make some great bubble hash when grown indoors, have you had any experience with making it from this strain? Or heard any feedback?

Have you got any pictures of it in late flower grown indoors mate?

Thanks in advance!

Hey Dr. Pseudo - cheers for the pics, keep us posted on how they do as they flower

Dr. Green Thumb - I'll know this week when our site will be ready by - end of this month at v. latest - we've kept back some Sheb stock for our own site; the only info I have on how this strain does indoors is from people online who have tried it - the pics of outdoor plants from the same source grown out in Spain are at the beginning of the thread

all best,

Namkha

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Just before going 12/12 under a hps.

Hiya, good or bad, let us know how it goes - already showing a little bit of leaf curl there which may be nutrient related

I put two of them to flower a week ago, and the 525 watts they're now getting has really made them grow faster. There has been deformities in the leaves from day one but this new growth seems healthy and green. I started them in a very poor soil mix consisting mostly of sand and fed very lightly with biogrow once during veg. Then I transplanted to normal potting soil in individual pots. Could be that the soil is way more nutricious than what they're used to. I suspect they'll go a long way without further feeding.

Here's another shot from the last day in veg

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