Sharing borders with Nepal, Tibet and the state of Himachal, the lush green region of Kumaon in the heart of the Indian Himalaya produces some of the most enjoyable charas around - for those who above all value the HIGH, Kumaoni charas is hard to beat: longlasting, euphoric, energising and psychedelic, this is the charas you will still be smoking when you're in your 70s - truly uplifting stuff

The hardness of the charas belies how super resinous the plants themselves can get: mango aromas predominate, with lime and strong floral aromas

These are very vigorous and tough plants

more photos of the Pahari Farmhouse

Those look wonderful, such voluptuous buds, real beauties . Really is good to see these cultivars being preserved

Aye, lovely lookin big beauties

beautiful bits of hand rubbed has there.

I'd love to go over there and just stand infront of a canna field, i bet the smell is awesome!

T1

lovely peices of hash, shame there is neva anythng like tht round here.

I think i may have smoked this a few years back it sounds simillar called "cream" (apparently because its the cream of the crop) came in a thin cylinder not platted. Very hard (had to light it to get it to crumble up) weird blueish colour most amazing high made me properly hallucinate (more than i have on shrooms) for about 10 mins sooooo euphoric. It is one of my missions in life to smoke this again i will have to go to Kumaoni. Got very lucky got 1 8th £20 what a bargain but its left me knowing its out there and i want it so much.

[Hi all,
New on here, this is my first post! Have spent a fair bit of time in India and the pictures of these gorgeous babys temporarily took me back there for a minute! Are these babys pure sativa as most of the strains in this region are predominately Indica?

hey 32-20: yeah, some of the harder handrub you can get in the Indian Himalaya has the best high - even though it is quite hard (even glassy) it comes from very resinous plants (can be wild jungli or farmed) and once rubbed seems to set to a harder consistency... the kumaoni twists etc. above are like that... and the high is like you say veeeery euphoric and can be psychedelic in the full sense... what sets it apart it is just how overwhelming pleasant warm and bright it is - IMHO a lot of more modern breeds just seem so cold and clinical or edgy and fuzzy compared to the real Himalayan mountain highs

"cream" is usually used to describe Himachali handrub from places like Kullu, Parvati and Malana area - esp. the Malana firstrub which should be close to 100% pure resin made with extreme care... it's unusual to hear hard resins described as "cream"... most people who go mad for Malana haven't yet realised that the softness of the charas is kind of irrelevant when it comes to the high... I have given some really glassy jungli to "cream" heads and it put them into orbit

hey pollenlover - these Kumaoni beauties are certainly what people would call pure sativas... I am not sure where Malana would fit in the indica sativa thing... by the time you get to Himachal you getting closer towards Kashmir and so on... most of Himachal gets plenty of rain, but northern parts of it and closer to the Tibetan plateau you are getting into rain-shadow areas - here you would expect more "indica" phenotypes to emerge, as an adaption to low rainfall and desert-like conditions... the indica/sativa thing is confusing though...

Chitral (which is just north of Gilgit i.e. very near what was all once thought of as Kashmir) you have plants which people could spend a lot of time arguing about where they fit in the indica/sativa thing... in the FATA areas like Khyber you get both indicas and sativas and so on and so on

the Kullu Jungli freebies we have are quite wide-leaved plants, but are basically sativas... maybe the sativa/indica thing is not all that useful, it's hard to say

hope that helps,

Namkha

ahh...
brings back sweet memories......
upper upper jungli mall...
bom nahma shiva..

Cool info namkha thanks. I long to smoke that! I see some new seeds in the seed shop

hello people!

i ve got some pahari from rsc outside and indoor at 45°.
i have a male and a female with the same sativa structure but with different branching and leafs.
let s you see them(sorry for my bad english).
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plants indoor are under fluorescent.

Lovely pics. If I could just reach into the monitor and pick out one of those tollahs

I'm guessing they would have good mould resistance if grown in the uk outdoors, but would probably finish far too late?

thanks.

i m not in uk i m at 45°n but i m think they were not ready before mid december at my lattitude so i cut them after taking clone from each one.
in fact i don t know when they ll be ready!
but like you i think they have no mould problem.en tout cas not for me
does namhka give us more info?

hey - really happy to see them outdoors!!!

I am not sure if I understood you correctly - do you still have the female going outside? ... if you do I would love to see how they look once the buds start filling up - do you have any up to date photos?

the strain is from approx 30 degrees N --- but as for giving you more advice, well, I wish I could be more helpful, but we only collected this variety last year, and have not seen it growing outside of its native environment --- plants will come down from the end of October to the second week of November in native enviro... handrubbing starts as early as September, and runs until mid Nov

my guess you could keep them going until the end of Nov. at least

in my opinion the way to get the most out of this strain is to use it for making handrub charas --- I just love the charas from these plants, far and away my favourite --- I found a tiny piece of it at home a few weeks ago: so I got to revisit the Himalaya again - just gorgeous

you can start rubbing once the resin output gets going, and keep going as long as the weather is not too damp --- so that depends on the weather at your situation, but you should be able to get a lot of charas from that outdoor female... people underestimate how much great hash you can make with the handrub method --- as long as it is pumping out resin, you will keep getting tolas from it... I have seen Kumaoni guys in the region this strain is from get absolutely loads of charas from these plants after many many rubs

sorry I can't be more informative on the cultivation side - you are breaking new ground here!

all best,

Namkha

hello namkha!
it s great to talk with you.

in fact i don t keep any of the plant outdoor,only take one clone from each and root them under fluorescent.
i kill the two plants outside because there is a lot of eyes around them but i will run the clone indoor under hps 400 watts when they ll be bigger.
at this time they are at 5 internodes (pruning),i ll wait two more weeks before blooming them.
i plan to make some cross:
pahari female x pahari male(to get more seeds)
pahari female x haze mist
early pearl x pahari male
only to see what happen!
some question for you man,do you think the pahari will do well indoor? does they need a high humidity level?
(apologise for my english, but i m french so...bad in english)

Bonjour pantagruelion

Ca va ?

Bienvenue a 420

Your English is fine, better than many of the rosbif s Certainly it's better than my French

I'm afraid we'll have to wait for namkha to answer your question, I just wanted to say Hi Great screenname, is that from Lyra's daemon Pantagruel ?

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bonjour arbuscule!

ca va bien,merci!

thanks for my english,i was afraid that other people can t understand me!

screenname is from francois rabelais, for him pantagruelion=hemp!so that s the better name!!!

hey - your guess is as good as mine for how the Pahari will do indoor...

I imagine they would be easier to handle than a Thai - not as stretchy, very resinous, and with denser buds

however, the fact is that we have not tested these strains indoors - this will be the first generation of this strain to go indoors

just to reemphasise --- The Real Seed Company is a group of collectors

some of us are growers, but we are certainly not breeders

our purpose is to source and distribute quality traditional ganja and hashish/charas cultivars

it is very difficult to be both a breeder and a collector - so we are doing the collecting, the breeders can do the breeding

all best,

Namkha

hi namkha good to see you!

i know that you at rsc are not breeder but collectors, that s why we are all interrested with your strains.
as i can see it with my eyes,your plant are so far away from the duch "sativa" i tried!now i wait to the harvest.
i hope that you ve got great sucess with your company,cause i cant go in these to take seeds

so i m in the first who try it indoor?! it s a dream!

some photos of the pahari female indoor(photo of today)

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hello people at uk 420!

some shots of this day:
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that is the male clone: 3 weeks in bloom under fluorescent.
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female clone
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from left to right:branches of female early pearl,female pahari and male pahari.
that s all for this day.
a la prochaine!!!

Who said they get tall? you're correct!

2 female Pahari behind a male & a female Malana, the 2 male Pahari were even taller & had huge nuts a week ago aprox, I forgot to take a photo before I chopped them but believe me they were very tall indeed!

Just watering when required, under 600w hps.

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Nice one Idlea Hands, think I'll wait til I've more headroom to pop these then Think they might prefer blue light in veg.

Those Malana look spot on though, just realised they're in smaller pots

Wonder how they'd take to topping?

Your Afghans look great too.

That hash has me drooling.

Looking niiiice bro

i topped them and now they do a new main stem.
maybe it s because they are clones?
the male take 4 weeks before let down his pollen and the female is on 12/12 since two weeks and there is only few pistils.
i hope that bloom will not be longer than three months

Cheers Doc

Yes... headroom, it's getting there already, going to have to decide what to do about that very soon I think! they were only potted on 2 days ago, they've grown a bit but they were almost as tall in the same size pots as the Malana are still in now, I might pot on the Malana & Mazar later depending on the roots, although I've been hoping for signs of sex before I do, don't want to stretch it out too long though.

The Malana are pretty much the same size as the Mazar so far, the Mazar have a much stronger smell to them and have adapted a bit better to my enviroment I reckon, not to say the Malana are bad at all - I really like the one on the right of the pic, not much aroma yet, but should be a pretty plant if I can keep it ok.

I had a couple of Pahari that grew a bit strange in the JI compost, bleached leaves and peculiar leave shape, but when they went into the better compost in bigger pots, they put that behind them and just grew... and grew, nicely! The similar Malana are doing the same in the veg room, albeit a bit slower.

Impressed so far

All the best

bijour bijour!


hello inernational growers!


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They look amazing mate, how long has it been in flower now?

hello !

25 days of 12/12 today!

she stretch something like x 3 but it s not finish!

sadly she s little hermaphrodite,but the male wasn t.
maybe it s because i m too hard with her!

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Lucky you pruned to multiple tops, that will slow the stretch some.
Hope you get some nice buds

They look lovely pantagruelion. Looks like you are handling her well

Are there any nice smells from the male and female yet?

What does yours smell like Idle hands?

They both look amazing. Such beautiful structure to such Sativas and the Mazar

The Pahari looks very similar in structure to the Ethiopian Highland from African seeds.

Hope they all finish nicely for Christmas

thank you men!
no smell for the moment but like that no problem with neighbour

i think she will be ready for the first part of december but maybe sooner.
time will tell.

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new shots of pahari in bloom(day 42):
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i think she ll be ready on december 14,so 8 weeks to go!

Great stuff Panta

hey - great to see, thanks for keeping us updated!

I was doing a bit of reading recently, and the area of Kumaon this strain is from was a part of Nepal only 100 or so years ago --- I was also in Nepal recently and I can confirm that these look very similar to many Nepalese "sativas"

as with Nepalese strains, these are harvested in the first half of November, to mid Nov

any description of the aromas - mango, carrot, fruit?

I found Nepalese sats to be much more citrus and lemon dominant in the smell department....

hello namkha!

the one i ve got smell really sweet,something between sage and basil.i cant be more precise but this is a really floral perfume,little green.
it s hard to make a good description cause my nose is bad

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hey - nice description, sounds very interesting --- esp. the thing about "really floral", looking fwd to updates --- we should keep hassling Idle Hands as he must have something interesting to show us by now

all best,

Namkha

day 62:


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namkha,do you know anything about the kumaon soil like ph or composition?does the farmers use organic compost to feed their plant or chemicals?
i want to know cause my pahari isn t well in this royalty mix(plagron)maybe she prefer a soil with less feed in.

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My limited experience with himalayan sativas has thought me that they usually prefer low levels of nutes and don't like being close to a hps.

I always feed organic only and they seem to respond well.

Your plants look gorgeous anyway!

hey Pantegrulion - sorry for the slow reply

looks like a definite case of too much nutes

I don't think farmers up there can afford to use fertilizer on their plants --- just maybe animal manure sometimes

those plants look like they have waay too much nutes to me

I am not an experience grower, but I know a stresed plants when I see on

cf. the pics of the plants in natural enviro --- looong well shaped even leaves

I would personally flush the soil - then repot into a bigger pot with milder compost

hope that is of help - though as I am al;ways saying, I am a collector not a breeder/grower

all best,,

Ngakpa

hi namkha!

i think like you,too much fert,oh yeah!!!
the plagron royalty mix isn t a good soil for indoor plant IMHO it s far better to take light mix and feed the plant only when they need but for this time i havnt the choice

i flush the soil yesterday but it s too late cause all the pistils are brown and i can t repot.

i ll do better next time!

in spit of this i am not disapointed cause it s only a test grow(my closet is full of other variety)and i ve got some seeds.
the best is that i made a early pearl pahari hybrid and i think they ll be amazing!


waiting for your website,hope there will be a lot of information in it !

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a question for all the world: WHERE ARE THE OTHERS INDOOR GROWERS OF PAHARI????

i won a pkt of pahari farmhouse they arrived today, im geminating 3, if i have the correct information i will need to clone a clone before they give there best indoor grow

HELLO grandad !

i didn t know anything about this ,but welcome to the pahari club!!!
personally i ll grow another batch of pahari ASAP cause they ve got great potential!only hope that i grow them better than this time
i wish you good luck with yours!!!

some shots of my actual overfeed pahari at day 70:
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cheers bg, those buds look wonderful, i only have to wait another 24 weeks.

that sounds like a good idea to me

hello !


some shots just before harvest:
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namkha ,you know that i and others growers wait impatiently for your website and all landraces sativa you can offer to us!!!!

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hi pantagruelion,
I concur with the statement above for sure .
just curious as to the smell and overall appeal of this plant in your opinion.
I have a few of the pahari seed that made the trip,and will do them outdoors at elevation next season,
will do an open pollenation on them.
indoor;
I just put down 6 of the mazar into a glass of RO water to soak and then into a coco filled seed cups
about 12-24 hrs after they sink.

hope they phat and potent
S

Those buds look lovely Panta, the kind of beautiful resin you'd expect from a charas strain. Enjoy her and don't forget the smoke report

couple of the 1st lot of seeds was slow germing so i stuck more in, now i have more than i need, of course i still need to sex them and i only have a small veg area.