Hi all, i badly broke my knee at the end of last year and tore the posterior cruciate ligament clean away from the bone and since then have been in pain daily the doctors all said unless i take thier opiates that of course i will be in pain as it was possibly as bad a break as u will do too your knee, i have smoked for years for pleasure and i still do but have noticed when i don't have a bit of green im in agony, walking is difficult at best and 9 months into the physio i aint made great progress i wonder whether or not i would be able to go an see my G.P and suggest sativex to be honest i aint one for synthesized drugs and refused morphine when i broke my leg because i dont like what it does to you after 5 days with just paracetamol i caved after being taken into hospital for an operation an all i started taking oramorph a liquid version of morphine and codeine tho i hated what it was doing too me the world seemed to have fluffy edges and there wasnt much pain, now a friend of mine has been addicted to morphine for 3 years and didnt fancy going there so i stopped taking this drug and although i was in much more pain i was at least lucid.
so basically would i qualify for legal thc ?

I'm sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any such thing as 'qualifying for legal THC' in the UK.

Sativex is for pain and only a consultant can prescribe

Obviously you have an aversion to allopathic medication that will take the pain level down a peg or two, this would have to water tight objection

Sounds like you need further surgery on the crucial ligament

ask your g.p to refer you back to orthopaedic surgeons

do what they ask, then say why you do not want morphine etc

i was already refered back for a surgery but the specialist said it was cronic disuse thingymabob and that no surgery was required it would just have to run its course and that is was still quite early on in my recovery

If you were here in the states you would definetly qualify. I broke my knee a year and a half ago, and went to the doc, got a presription, and have been happy ever since. Good luck with it mate

so was that them prescribing that? or you badgering them for it?

I researched ahead of time and found a doctor that was 4:20 freindly, walked in, told them I have been self medicating with marijuana but wanted to do it legaly. He gave me a perscription, and thats it. No badgering, no awkwardness. Just to the point. It hurts, bud works. peace mate

Not in the UK, we're so backward here that they even stopped using it to treat junkies. It's the one guarentee of getting someone to quit smack. I think the best you could do is grow your own or get in a gardner - Bom Shiva

A guarantee of someone to quit smack?

Actually,for people that don't currently use canna and withdraw from opiates and try canna to reduce withdrawal

get into quite an agitated state,not pleasant for them at all and increases anxiety considerably.

It helped me a lot coming off but I was already a toker,although in early withdrawal its almost impossible to get the high you

desire,its very different for several weeks.

Who in the UK was using it for opiate withdrawal?

Hey there mtb,

I'm so sorry to hear about your knee issues! May I suggest a cruise over to the NORML website. They have a load of info (from what I have been told) about medical mary jane issues. I think it is primarily for the US but they may have info for elsewhere and/or links for regional help.

Good luck and godspeed your recovery!

which site?
could u pm me the details please?

Hi - sorry to hear about your knee.
Here in the EU on this side of the Atlantic there are already various jurisdictions that prescribe cannabis for neuralgic (chronic) pain. At least that is the case here.

I would email you personally - via this program though, whenever I select to send a Personal MEssage to someone I get this notice telling me that I am not cleared for security clearance to do that.
I really dont understand it : just haven't figured it out (yet)

noel

On this site you cannot send PM's until you have made a certain number of public posts.

The only "legal" THC in the UK is "Sativex". You would, a Maryjane has said, qualify but you would also need to get a consultant or a decent GP who is Sativex-friendly. Not an easy task, I'm afraid.
NORML is an American organisation and I doubt they have much useful info about the UK legal or medicinal scene which seems to change every day.
The UK is also very different from the many EU counries who have opened their doors to medicinal THC useage. Our Gov is essentially anti any form of Cannabis, as are the majority of our health professionals.
Your best best - grow your own, keep it schtum.
I envy you actually. That Cannabis relieves that kind of pain for you is excellent.

thanks for your comments guys and arnold mate your post was very informative and tho i do what u suggest anyway i would still like t find a g.p that is sympathetic to the ganja weed, and dont be too envious man im in daily pain even if the erb does take the edge off of it

hi - thanks
are you one of the moderators ?
noel

currently the only form of legal thc is sativex which a s far as i know was designed for ms sufferers and would be very hard to get a prescription for also i think at present there have been only 2 applicants for sativex neither of which have yet been successfull one was declined due to wrong info on the forms or soemthing so has been delayed and the other is awaiting its approval still if im wrong then correct me please but this is what i last heard a few weeks ago
as for med marijuana bein legal i also read that the government have no plans to ever decriminalize cannabis for med use allowing sativex is as far as they will go

when or if the usa decriminalize it then about ten years later if they do the uk may decide its the way to go but unfortunatly i doubt it still.
i even read that the courts are saying they are not going to take medical conditions into consideration when handing out sentances for cultivation so it makes no difference to them if your a med user or jus a stoner
weather or not this is correct i dunno either but i read it in an online article somewhere last week. (id hope its not completly true tho)

True enough; Sativex is the only legally "marketed" pharmacy product within the UK territories, or better said, the only cannabis-containing pharmacy-drug available to purchase on UK soil.

Residents on the mainland, who are travelling to the United Kingdom of GB & NI for work or holidays, may and do take with them a supply of pharmacy-drugs containing cannabis LINK , as prescribed by a physician, on their person for trips of up-to 3 months duration. The UK Customs and Excise and the UK Home Office are very clear on this point when explaining how things work over there to us foreign tourists.

It seems higly unlikely, in the European Union Internal Market, that there is a medicinal product, a pharmaceutically-produced product, on-sale in one EU (Internal Market "free movement of products & services" etc) country, for which V.A.T. is charged to customers in pharmacies, is NOT permitted to be purchased by residents (patients) or pharmacies in another member-state of the EU Internal Market.

I know for a fact that the medicines (containing medicinal-grade cannabis) are being currently exported from this country to both Italy and Finland: where cannabis for recreational use is (also) illegal.

Those products, and information about how to obtain your rights as a consumer in a free- and open healthcare market of the European Union Internal Market LINK

True enough; Sativex is the only legally "marketed" pharmacy product within the UK territories, or better said, the only cannabis-containing pharmacy-drug available to purchase on UK soil.

Residents on the mainland, who are travelling to the United Kingdom of GB & NI for work or holidays, may and do take with them a supply of pharmacy-drugs containing cannabis LINK , as prescribed by a physician, on their person for trips of up-to 3 months duration. The UK Customs and Excise and the UK Home Office are very clear on this point when explaining how things work over there to us foreign tourists.

It seems higly unlikely, in the European Union Internal Market, that there is a medicinal product, a pharmaceutically-produced product, on-sale in one EU (Internal Market "free movement of products & services" etc) country, for which V.A.T. is charged to customers in pharmacies, is NOT permitted to be purchased by residents (patients) or pharmacies in another member-state of the EU Internal Market.

I know for a fact that the medicines (containing medicinal-grade cannabis) are being currently exported from this country to both Italy and Finland: where cannabis for recreational use is (also) illegal.

Those products, and information about how to obtain your rights as a consumer in a free- and open healthcare market of the European Union Internal Market LINK

According to :
http://www.cannabisoffice.nl/eng/product_info.html

the medical conditions for which cannabis is prescribed are

1) Spasticity with pain, for instance at
Multiple Sclerosis
Spinal cord injury

2) Nausea and vomiting by
Chemotherapy
Radiotherapy
Treatment with HIV-medication

3 Chronic neuralgic pain
4 Gilles de la Tourette Syndrome
5 Palliative treatment of cancer and HIV/AIDS

chrones disease isnt there but I am almost sure that it is covered by one of the headings: perhaps the bolded one.

If the accident you have unfortunately had with your knee has resulted in chronic neuralgic pain [i.e. it's not going away and other drugs [usually strong opiates] prove themselves inneffective]

Hope the information helps: remember, if they can write a website in English then its highly likely they can speak it too.

heya,

You are welcome. No, I'm not a mod. They have a signfying comment where mine says "Group: Senior Member", a mods would say "Group: Moderator" or some such. I just blab a lot and have been doing this for a number of years. I've picked up a few factoids in me day.

I hope your knee is doing better!