Hi guys,

Just interested in what you Lot5 growers think of this pheno after growing it?

Personally I think it is over rated & if I actually paid for a bag of seeds at the price they went for in the auction I would be most upset now knowing how she grows & smokes. Fortunately I got a cutting from a reliable source for free & the cutting came labelled as a 9 weeker outstanding pheno.

I think she makes nice hash, but the smell of the buds is like pine toilet freshners & I've rather got sick of it after smoking a reasonable amount. I got sucked in by all the biased views of the pheno & even thought until i harvested that I was growing some blinding bombshell that would suitably blow my mind.

Well, before you say it, yes I grew it well, healthy throughout. I got about 2oz per lanky plant & grew 5 of them, the buds were dense & covered in glistening trichs.

But by week 7 the fat buds started growing stealth banana's which I frantically plucked out so it's a freaky pheno, the single White Russian I was growing yielded nearly half of what the FIVE lot5's yielded & pissed all over the Lot5's in tatse, strength, buzz & everything really.

I thought the freakey stealth nana's were something I did wrong, but my good friend who gave me the cuts said all his ones hermied out late flower too! I kept the mum & I'm growing one this time round just in case I started liking it, but I don't. I actually think I hate it, which I have never hated any pheno before!

This time round the one I'm growing has sprouted a stealth banana at 6 weeks out of one of the main cola's, my C99 & White Russian are going strong indeed, so the Lot 5 has been pushed to the side so my fav's can have more light.

I wouldn't mind a low yielder if it was strong, but I just find the Lot#5 smoke makes me dopey without a stone & it's not that satisfying.

A few days ago I chopped the mum down & composted her like a freaky pheno deserves! The one I am growing at the moment will be chopped at 9 weeks, frozen & battered into bubble hash

OK, I now await the flaming from the Lot#5 lovers!

can see shops closing and mums grabbing their kids off the street-doodle-oodle ooh-na na naah!

not at all mate, its just not to your personal taste thats all, we all get it once in a while
dont worry i felt the same after i grew out nj x oe, it was awfull, i absolutly detest it but nearly everybody else i know thinks its ok, i just see it as over-rated crap with really terrible flavour - no offence any lovers of it
whereas on the flipside i love cheese alot, and genuinely cannot believe my ears when people say they dont like that

i guess its like alcohol as in not everybody drinks lager

agree with what scar said ,personal taste

my lot#5 is lovely it dont make me dopey ,it helps me do my little jobs round the house
has a sweet fruity smell ,

I have smoked quite a lot of lot5 and have to say I love it, it gives me fits of giggles over stupid things and really makes my mind go overtime!


Personal taste and all that

EM2

Indeed ...each to his (or her), own ....


I currently have 4 Lot #5 phenos ..... 3 of which I grew myself - and one I acquired as 'the nine week' pheno ...


My own 3 go between 12-15 weeks ...... at nine weeks they've just started their second bloom!


I can't comment on the new arrival as it hasn't been flowered off yet.


To be honest I can't give up either of the 15 week pheno's - they're both excellent in different ways...

#D - is a - " Laugh yer tits off smoke' ..... excellent for all social occasions ...


#F - is just one of the best 'sativa highs I've ever tried .... powerful and clear...wonderful medicine!


#B - the 12 week pheno - will probably not be kept - simply because the other 2 are so good!


So .... in answer to the question .... Yes it's as good - if not better than the 'hype'


This lady's going nowhere.....


Laz

mmm pic opportunity

lot#5 56 days

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Love it

Indeed, pics.

Like I said, mine is covered in Trichs, was grown well but looks do not make up for a shit smell & mongy heady high?

If only you could sample mine, you'd know what I mean.

Pic, day64, I let these go on for 11weeks, but there were male cocks everywhere to be pulled off that started on the second growth! :-

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It would explain why these 'Lot's' never made the stores like Oldtimer? To many variables?

I wish I could get the nice sativa high, or the 'get on with things' high, but it's just not there.

Like I said, good hash

That's a bit harsh AKPOG m8 ...... after smoking and growing one dodgy sounding hermie pheno?


I've grown 4 different pheno's for over a year with no hermies at all...


Laz

i love my lot 5 keeper, i have. she smells of yummy spices ,cant help but take a deeep breath of it when it hits your nose .

nice smiley high to:)

All 4 of the pheno's I have are rock solid without a hermie in sight and they each have their own particular character. Lovely smokes each and everyone

Awww, c'mon, why is that harsh? OT is a well respected grower, he admits he is no breeder but has bred some lovely sounding plants, but has any of the Lot series made a seed shop other than UK420?

I must add though, it was yourself & Bart who's 'hype' I believed in, I have respect for you both, excellent growers indeed

However I would like some outside opinions from other members

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its a shit strain, I'm just saying it's over hyped & I've smoked at least 30 strains in my 17 years of toking that are so much better, have better yields & don't take up loads of space.

Maybe this strain is my 'Marmite'



ETA: ahh, I see I am probably the only one that ended up with a minger then (other than my buddy who gave it to me, he doesn't like that pheno either) .

For my 2penneth its something kinda wonderful

Until I started growing I don't suppose I'd ever smoked a sativa or sativaesque bud having never ventured to holland.I've been lucky enough to smoke some wonderful hashes and imported buds much of which could nail me to a sofa for hours and numb my achy brain...job done I'd think.
But then I got lucky and got to sample some sats and thye were lovely..grinny ( yes thats a word ) and functional and buzzy funny in the head...not heavy and to some people I know not considered strong due to no couch lock but I loves it.I love a heavy indica too but then I love all things cannabis really

Anyway rambling... of all the sativaesque strains I've smoked Lot#5 rocks my boat the hardest, like Lazlo my ladies a keeper .I've got a 15 and a 12 weeker both the most flavoursome lemony goodness to them both...I have one drying now in fact and once dry I doubt I'll smoke much of anything else until she is gone

Lot#5 were from an experimental batch of 8 test crosses I made in 05/06, cross number 5 got the best reviews from the growers who tested the seeds for me, I also liked it a lot.

Its true I’m not a breeder, I have been pestered for years to make seeds by people who have smoked my home made varieties, I have done all I can to support uk420 since its very early days, so I ended up giving Joolz most of what were left of cross number 5 to sell as he wished in what ever numbers he wanted, in the end 24 packs of ten were sold. It was a one off sale of what were left of the number 5 cross to help support the site.

I have not had one complaint about this cross from anyone who paid hard earned for the seeds, apart from Laz having germination problems. Come to that, all the test growers were pretty happy with #5, which is more than can be said for a couple of the test crosses, all of testers still have mothers that they say they will keep for life. I have asked all the test growers, not one has seen stealth bananas.

The whole thing about lot#5 is that the high is very up and energetic, some plants seem to have no ceiling to their high, the last thing it is, is dull or mongy. I don’t know the provenance of your mum/cut AKPOG but it sounds nothing like one of my number 5 crosses, maybe you would like to let me know?

Come to that, what sort of a grower, grows out a pack of seeds and selects a plant with a dull mongy stone and produces nanas as a keeper, more to the point why on earth would they pass it on to others? Something is not right here.

PS I'm 2 generations into refining Lot#5, maybe I should just forget it!

horses for courses aint it??

obviously your mate, whom you got the cut from thinks its a quality smoke otherwise he wouldn't have labelled it as outstanding now would he???

no one else reports stealth banana's which to me suggest you have grow room problems, maybe a light leak causing undue stress??



is it quality or quantity you want from your grows??

T1

Thanks for posting OT, based on what you have said I wonder whether my friend & I have been unfortunate enough to be victim of serial cloning? The one I am growing at the moment is a clone of the clones I got, who knows what generation I have, I do know my buddy cloned a clone & maybe gave me a clone of that . I've pulled one banana this time & I'm at 39 days & the pistols are 40% browning already so I am guessing a second growth, I hope it's not more nana's!

I am convinced it is lot5 though, it flowers just like the ones I have seen from the grow diary's, tall buds all up the stalks I can post more pics if you like?

I certainly have no environment issues, I have worked hard on my GR & light doesn't even get in the room my tent is in so no light leaks in my tent, I am also flowering a C99 & two White Russians & they are doing great, I have a C99mum & a WR mum, currently finding a good BB Cheese pheno. Min temp 19C, average temp 27-29C, 600W HPS in a 5ftx4ftx6ft tent, Adjusta-shade, mylar walls, floating floor, de-humidifyer for late flower.

I am after that high that tingles my cheeks & puffs my eyes & makes me giggle again, I have my choices of Indica knockouts, if I leave my WR for 11 weeks I'll have couchlock guaranteed, so please don't think my dislikes are simply yield & heavy stone.

I would be most honoured if I could test any one of your strains OT, I am an honest guy & say it how it is, I am no ego rubber

I got my eye on your Oldtimer strain though

Respect to all, I didn't want flaming, just a discussion

Please don't. Haven't got your Lot#5, but have your Oldtimes and Smile.

I count myself lucky each day for managing to get them, and cant wait to try them after hearing so many good things.

Please keep up the good work, someone has to... and seems you're the best man for the job

Now that would be a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, come on OT one bad pheno aint bad in 3 years now is it, everyone I have met really likes the lot 5

pheno hunting is half the fun of growing.

i detect a note of sarcasm from ot1 here bruv.(i hope one grower wouldn't put him off!!)

ot ..... put down the keyboard and move away from the screen .......

The Lot#5 run has received an overwhelmingly favorable reception ...... so you just carry on working your magic ot .......

AKPOG has just been unlucky .... or his m8 has ...

As you say tho' ... it seems a little odd to keep a mongy hermie pheno as a mum....



Laz

e2a:
Bit of hasty back peddling

Hmm sorry I had a really really bad day yesterday, reading this topic kind of made me feel like my hide was being nailed to a board for making something bad.

I’m kind of proud of L#5, not sure how many separate fems I have tried, but over 25 of them, I liked them all, there is a character of scent and high that runs through all of them, I for sure would not expect everyone to maybe like what they do, but as I said here when I first put them out to J and here when giving out more info on them. I tried to be brutally honest from both my own experience and from feedback.

AKPOG I do not think serial cloning would alter the scent or the high, if it was cloned several times when flowering, that may have destabilised it a bit, but its not something I’ve experienced to be honest.

I would have said that from what you want in the way high ie that lot#5 would be just what you were looking for. I’m not sure that oldtimes would be what you want at all, to me its more of a staring at the wall listen to music and drift off in thought type of high, irrespective I think they are all gone anyway, its another line I’m working on to get them closer to mum.

Can I just point out that flowering a crappy clone that a friend passed on to you does not make the entire strain shite

For several reasons we can not say whether a strain is good or shite merely by a clone that has been passed on. For a proper test run to tell if a strain is good or not would really require a pack of seeds. This gives an overall personal tick in the boxes So far everyone that has posted good things to say about lot#5 have all grown out packets of seeds and picked their favourites.

What is right for some is not necessarily right for others

AKPPOG I know you were just trying to be honest and express your reasons as to why you do not like the one you have, but hopefully you'll bare in mind that 1 clone, 1 pheno out of many doesn't necessarily make it a wank strain

And thats why i grow from seed as if you buy them or get those as testers then you are nearly 99% sure what you grow is what you wanted to grow.

Had lots of people offering me clones of various cuttings but i have never used one yet , time is to costly to grow out some clone thats supposed to be this and that only for it to go hermie or turn out not to be even the same strain you wanted.

I guess you need to really know the person you are getting clones off is a trustworthy person.

I grew out Cannabiogen's destroyer recently which smells like pine detol .... not really the most pleasent smell in the wrold when your buds smell of that but the high is very up there not slow and couchy its a get it done strain , and i have to say it ain't my fave for taste or texture but the high is very nice and the more you smoke the higher you seem to get.

OK, lets set myself straight,

OT, you are a gem, keep up the good work buddy no one I know can achieve what you do & my aim with this thread was to discuss the strain & see if I was unlucky - I sure have been unlucky with this hermie.

You have stated yourself you are not a breeder, but I think you fit into that category perfectly & deserve the title.

Considering I am the only grower in 3 years that has had a hermie (which looks to be no fault of the breeding process) suggests that you did a fantastic job! My hat is off to you sir

The only conclusion I can make is that this pheno I have was mistreated somewhat in it's early days when it was found to be a fem (ie flowered then cuts taken too late?), then a few mates of the original grower got some of these freaky cuts & sometime down the line littleold me gets told I have a rare & valuable plant I should bow my head to. I get excited, check out other growers & set my sights way up there.

What I have has been sampled by plenty of my friends & they all love it to be perfectly honest, they all describe the stone as heavy & stary though, not giggly or puffy eyed? But it wasn't what I thought. I should know by now nothing is as good as it first seems & if I had low expectations then I wouldn't have been disappointed (apart from the freaky nana's! )

I was harsh earlier, bad day yesterday & I got a little defensive Sorry.

Maybe I'll be fortunate enough in the future to aquire a better pehno to show me what this lady is all about, if I haven't lost all my friends in this thread

Cheers all for clearing my doubts

that s the thing with growing clones from unreliable sources . you have no idea what it is your actually growing .

from all the info ot1 has provided us , and other members grows , the phenos i ll be looking for wont finish in 9 weeks . i v got indica strains at 8 weeks 12/12 at the moment , some look finished but they will not be chopped before 70days . i find it highly unlikely that a Sativa dom strain like Lot5 would give phenos that finish in 9 weeks , and when smoked produce a dull , boring high . it just doesn t add up and contradicts all other reports on this strain .

perhaps it aint Lot5 you are growing after all ?

Here are some more pics, maybe you can tell me if this looks like the Lot5 you grew buddy?

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ETA - There is a White Rusian in the center of 5 Lot5's in that pic so ignor the WR left of centre

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ETA 2 - Also Johnyblaze, as I said earlier in the thread, these were choped at nearly 11 weeks despite what I was told about the 9 weeker, I always go on trichs, but this strain went into a second growth of nanas while ambering off olde trichs.

And a couple of pics of the Stealth Nana's that got through after harvest -

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I wish 420 had a scratch & sniff option!

i must say ive smoked a few dif phenos came from seed i was lucky to win aswell as i friend had 10

its not for me atall but saying that the old times is much more up my street
i have a brown bag at the mow with 4 dif lot 5 and 2 dif oldtimes and the lot 5's still there

still im a skanky dank skunk man at heart but i do think its overhyped a touch on this forum
still each to there own

I agree with this description of the high. Up, sativa and behind the eyes. A very nice smoke Ot1. Mine have been battered with lsf and lost a lot of leaves so harvest will suffer and I wasnt expecting them to be so slow to flower and stretch so much but lot#5 is a cool smoke and I will grow em again if I can reveg the flowers I have now (failed cuts).

Nice plants.

That's the situation i'm in, i've flowered off me 3 mums 'cause they'd got so tatty and unruley and the cut's refuse to root. Have upto now had pretty much 100% of their cuts take (albeit slowly, always 3 weeks +) so i'm gonna have to try and re-veg 'em.

Or sow the 5 seeds i have left.....


P.S. I don't think it's over hyped really, it's pretty much all i smoke nowadays, nice clear high with no mongyness and very little body stone, great weed for jammin' with mates, smokin' down the pub, toppin' me body's THC level up at lunchtime at work, etc.

Must admit tho' that me girlfriend and me best mate aren't a fan of it, both moan about the taste and not being able to feel stoned on it, guess they've been brought up on Indicas tho as L#5's effects can be quite subtle once ya get used to it, but i love that!!!!

Oh and on the subject of stealth 'nanas, one of mine spits a few out towards the end, but too late to really worry about and it;s the long one which takes about 14/15 weeks. T'other pheno's finish in 9 & 12/13 weeks.

Cant say iv had any hermie problems and I personally find the high as good as anything iv smoked. Iv had some most strange visuals going on while smoking it which is something id heard of with sativa strains but discounted as myth tbh.

Having had some amazing feedback from some very respected growers here id be tempted to try and source another pheno and give it another go.

It'll be around at Cinders place for many years I reckon

your pheno looks like my quickest finishing pheno akpog. i took it 9wks first and got a poor harvest of 'not exceptional weed'. the second time round, at about 12wks it had put on much more weight and the stone was in a different league.
my personal favourite out of the 4 pheno's i grew is actually closer to 15wk finishing time. it delivers a heart-racing high, prone to finishing occasional and regular tokers alike. another 15wk pheno delivers a real laughy high tho, perfect for parties and social gatherings. i consider the lot5 around 12-15wks (from my experience)
like you, i had very high hopes for the lot5 but wasn't disappointed in any way shape or form. if anything it was the opposite and I had an incredibly hard job trying to decide which pheno's to ditch. i still have 2 and a friend retains the others. i doubt that many other strains would leave such a genuinely difficult choice. maybe that's because the genetic properties of the lot5 haven't been completely reigned in but i value that diversity. each individual expression of the collective lot5 gene pool that i've sampled has been good enough to justify a place in my grow as a mum. to give you an idea of what it stacks up against, the competition for space in my mum room includes Apollo11, C99, NYCD, Shiva Skunk, Panama, Senegal Haze and others. it's not like i was replacing bagweed.

i'm sure you'll get the chance to sample or grow out other pheno's, shame yours is prone to hermie. i certainly wouldn't say a strain was shit tho mate, just coz i got a crappy result from one clone you don't want to limit your future chances


PW

You are not far off the mark there mate

The problem is imo and experience is that some folk just dont understand or appreciate a sativa high. I have friends that are just the same. If it dont shut you up and nearly knock you out then its shite and weak. They dont give a rats about the taste or anything else for that matter, just that it needs to make you feel mongy

Thats what sativas are not about

I once took some uppy sativa smoke to a party and handed the spliffs round and some folk were complaining it was weak. What they didnt realise was that they'd been dancing for half hour solid and they wouldnt shut the fuck up . See what i mean. It worked all right, it was just they didnt even know cos they knew no different

Needless to say they now love it, and most of all, appreciate and understand what a sativa high is all about

Owd

Hi
Just to add my 2d worth, I have grown 2 phenos of Lot#5 from seed, currently just started flowering 2 clones (one of each)
Last flowering was one of the mums.
Not one nana in 4 flowerings
The smoke reminds me of why i began smoking way back when, one pheno is highly giggly, and i have found
myself dancing around my house singing whilst enjoying her effects
one is more reflective, still a most happy stone though.
And the chocolate brownies i made from trim butter are out of this world
In short, I love Lot#5, and i thank OT1 for making this experience available.
The aroma from both phenos is lovely, lemony and spicy.
Next grow will be oldtimes
So glad i found UK420
Owlz

Spot on Owd ....


I have folks who say exactly the same ....


Laz

So who's been brave enough to make bubble from her?

I knocked some up and it was with out a doubt the strongest hash i've smoked, knocked me for 6 and then some, me and the girly just sat around staring into space and giggling occasionally, the silence was only broken by the odd mumbling of "Heavy" every now and again.

Litterally got a freezer full of trim to do this weekend 'cause i'm almost outta weed (down to about an oz, emergency rations time!) and next crop is still 4 weeks off......

quote "The problem is imo and experience is that some folk just dont understand or appreciate a sativa high. I have friends that are just the same. If it dont shut you up and nearly knock you out then its shite and weak. They dont give a rats about the taste or anything else for that matter, just that it needs to make you feel mongy"

i am one of them i didnt try lot 5 but high is just not for me(paran0id felling) i like to shut up an not being able to talk and walk when i lite up,so anyone nows a strain that will knock me out?

I'm the opposite, most indica's make me paranoid.....

Muppet u left me with nothing to say shall we swap i got some sativa
must try oil from lot 5 looks superb

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?s=&a...st&p=917523

Top draw

I'm missing out on all the fun

Are these seeds available o what?

Doesn't this thread just REALLY make you want to try some?

It sounds lovely...

yeah pretty niffed i missed that one i can tell ya....

maybe the fairy will visit me in the future....

i know what a sat should be like my good friend LOVES sats has the biggest selection of seeds ive seen more than 2 life times worth
but it still dont do it for me ...

some peeps like tea some coffee ......some like to get stoned ,,,some just like to smoke a fag with a sprinkle of herb and say its a smoke..


me i like big fat blunts of nice tasting good quilty herb
like i said each to there own

Hmmmmm
I have not grown it, but I have had a fairly decent smoke of it. I found it an enjoyable smoke, quite uppish, and no scarey edges.
But it is impossibl;e to judge a strain on that basis. In all fairness, I reckon one would have to grow out a fair few packs bfore forming a definitive judgement. Sativas have a habit if throwing out seeds that are excellent, with one stonking brain belter (every thousand or so with Haze I gather).
Sooner or later, a real wild Lot5 Phenotype will emerge I am sure.

Sativa highs for me are so much better than indica highs i find indica highs rougher round the edges and i just love smoking jamaican sativa because i become more aware of everything and feel very awake a bit like taking shrooms i start grinning and feel like i am going somewhere very special. People who dont enjoy this mind blowing weed probably want a numbing buzz and dont like their brain taking a deep look at things because i also find trivial thaughts just dissapears my brain drops it all and starts working on bigger things.
So is this haze going to be sold again on here because i have seen it on another website but it might not be the real deal?