Hey guys my mom has had chronic crohns disease now for a good 15yrs easy, and im getting very worried about her condition lately. Shes gettin really skinny shes withering away, I think from the cocktail of medication my mum takes every day to surrvive. Morthine being my biggest concern as well as the rest i couldnt even list. If Mj can help her pain ect i will grow it for her.

Im gonna try some of my crop on her when its ready, i dont know if they are good strains for this Sensi hash plant, skunk#1 and durban poison.
The thing is she hates the smell of weed and ive got a feeling shes gonna pull out at last min and not have none. So im thinking of making some cannabutter, would this work well for her??

Does anyone know anything about Crohns, or have it yourself?? What strains are good for this condition??
Does ganja actualy help this condition and how??

Will it be ok to give my mom cannabis in relation to her prescription drugs, will they react badly????

Cheers any help or advice would be greatly appreciated

Hey poacher thanks for the fast reply, its a nasty disease and i really feel it for you man, ive grown up watchin my mom in and out of hospital. She tends not to go anymore cos they dont do shit apart from prod and feel!! wankers

yeah the dosage was deffo concern, dont wanna her trippin out n putting her off it for life.

Shit bet you were crapping it, did she totally flip on you for it? i'd feel so guilty if i did that to my mom thanks for warning me anyways al keep it low key.

How did you come off the medication? Did you suffer any side affects? And did you still take medi using canna b4 giving them all up?

I dont know if she will be able to get rid of her drugs very easy if at all. She will no doubt be independant on them. But if canna works for her im sure thats all she would need. I would much rather see her on canna than all the SHIT they keep feeding her.

She mentioned that if canna works for her, she gonna go to doctor and ask for cannabis pills!
Whats your view on these are they as good as plants?? because i feel like there gonna be aload of shit?

Read the pinned threads above. Also search the site for Chron's, there's plenty of information on here that may help

I don't have Crohn's but used to suffer badly with colitis,and I found cannabis to be the most effective relief for cramps and spasms.

My mum got that too, britle bone disease n all that, its looking promising. Thanks guys its a real help as i only smoke cannabis recreationaly and dont really see the benifits it has on patiants. Im just desperate to find some alternate relief for her, hearing how it helps you guys is really interesting?

How did you feel before trying cannabis?? What improvments did you notice?

Flare ups, does cannabis just take ya mind off the pain, or does it physically relax the bowls and alleviate pains

sorry for all questions, i really need to know so i cant try relate. I can only tell my mum so much info because i just dont know how it will actully work for crohns, unless i find users that suffer from the same condition.


Thanks

[b]Hi I also have suffered from Crohns for 15 years am now being taken off NHS meds as am allergic to all the meds that are there to treat Crohns but now there is no treatment for me. I have used cannabis for a long time and there is nothing that the NHS could give me that matches close to cannabis. The government need to allow people the right to grow their own meds all I have is shitty soapy and I need a pure med not this but our hands are tide by this stupid probation it’s time to stop all the rubbish about cannabis and tell the truth it dose woke as a med we need a safe medical supply not this street dealers rubbish Ms Smith. The government has let me and thousands of other down year after year they must act on the drugs advisory councils advice and let people use cannabis as a med the Home office said that they would act on all of their advice but not on the reclassification and would put it back to B so Ms Smith were is my and everyone’s licence to grow who uses cannabis as a med for help.
But there will not be one because Ms Smith will not decriminalize cannabis for medical use like she has said in her speech to the House of Commons that day yes she lies to. She will not listen to her advisors who have said that people who use cannabis as a meds should be allowed to do so wake up and smell the coffee Mr Brown give us our meds and stop letting the people who need cannabis for meds show some sense and do the right thing probation dose not work but education dose learn from the Dutch and from Europe stop being a dictator before your voted out for falling the people that put Blair into power not you.

As DANZIG has said, there is a wealth of info and experience concerning Crohn's on the site, it's certainly worth doing a search, and browsing through the many results.

My main concern would be the Morphine you mention. You call it Morthine, but I take it you mean Morphine - as in the Class A painkiller? Mixing Morphine and Cannabis creates a very trippy analgesic cocktail. Both the drugs, the Morphine and the Cannabis, amplify each other and ramp up the full range of effects each one has. For many, this is a dream mix, a real potent analgesic that relaxes the nerves, and also the mind. But if someone had never used cannabis before, it could be a scary and unpleasant trip. Cannabis alone, to the first timer, is a trippy experience; but maximise and amplified by Morphine So please make sure you get the doses right; don't mess around with it, get it right down there to a point where you question it could possibly work. Then, start titrating upwards till you find a dose your Mum is happy at. A teenth of a Gram (in terms of pure bud) would be perhaps as big as I would go for a first dose. If that works - great! If not, wait for four, or even eight hours then try double the first dose, and so on until the right dose is found.


I am afraid the answer is both yes and no, and maybe! It all depends on what is causing the pain, and whether the pain caused is of the type that responds to cannabis. For some, cannabis is a good way of just taking their minds off the pain, for others it goes further and physically stops the pain like an opioid drug or even better. The impression I get from reading the comments of those with Crohn's, is that most folks with Crohn's who use cannabis are in the latter group - which is great news for your Mum

Good luck with it, and don't be afraid to ask any questions you like. There are a few Crohn's sufferers on the site I think - and there's certainly plenty of info already scattered about the place.

Hey thanks a million guys top help
sorry about my spelling

I will go really easy on her, she's in bad pain now nothing seems to do much anymore.
Hopefully then from info ive got, canna should be a good for her.

I will let you know how it goes when my babies are ready

Thanks guys

indica strains magnificent for inflammatory bowel disease due to right balance of THC and CBD in the plant. for me tried and tested strains: NEW YORK DIESEL, WHITE RUSSIAN, AK47, WHITE WIDOW

Hope you mum is ok, has she tried taking any canna since.

My mums friend is a nutritionist and has crohns disease but she has not suffered from it for a long time since she changed her diet. She found out that a diet of fresh blended fruits and veg stopped her having such problems, and has since become a nutritionist

good thread gona watch closley ,

i myself have just spent the worst week of my life in hospital, lost a stone and half ,was on an iv cos i couldt keep anything down, given allsorts for the pain i was in from morphine and oramorth to paracetamol, after loads of test they reckon its I.B.S , just waiting on my biopsy results to rule out cronhs

i havnt a clue about ither so its serious research time for me,

im more pleased that i know what it is now, can attempt to treat it now .

spent years with the runs, always thought it was just poor diet or just me .

stress is my main factor, had a lot of shit growing up ,left 2 schools due to bullying me dad was a tosser to us, never really got over it .

anyway hope things turn out ok for you and your mum mate

all the best

twenny

according to this, gastrointestinal disorders account for 12 % of california's medicinal cannabis users

I was looking for something in the search list, and didn't find it hehe, but stumbled on this topic. If you want to get rid of chrons you might want to look into Dr hulda Clark cure for all diseases book (or torrent), and heal the digestive tract, might want to consider liver cleansing (complete program search for drnatura colonix), adjust your food program. Oh yeah build or buy a hulda zapper @ 30Khz or if you prefer a different frequency choose that one. And use on daily bases.

Look for sotainstruments on google these things work also good but are pricy It penetrates into digestive system, a normal zapper only cleans the blood. If you're handy with electronics build one yourself

Kill the parasites

Peace, V

sensimilla heala you are a wealth of information, thank you! I have suffered from Crohn's for 21 years, 2 surgeries, almost perished, the past 12 years have been pharma/surgery free, only medicinal cannabis. My web-site MichelleRainey.com has the complete story as well as links to a self-produced show discussing cannabis related issues. I hold a legal Health Canada license to possess and produce cannabis for myself, there are only 2400 of us. My latest endeavor more like labor of love has been distributing a Medicinal Cannabis Education package that I put together for physicians but now has become for anyone who needs educating, politicians-law enforcement-neighbors-bylaw officers etc. I am hoping a similar package will be adopted in other countries. Happy Sunday everyone!

xxooMichy

Has she tried it yet?

I reckon it takes away 50-75% of the symptoms. The 'flu like symptoms' (or all encompassing feeling of shitness as I call it) are almost completely gone, the cramps are less severe, you want to eat, the tiredness is much less pronounced, the pains are still there but less frequent and they don't worry you as much. I find I need to be really high to get that kind of relief. Since your mum has no tolerance though a little will make a huge difference.

Sative or indica doesn't really matter, anything very high THC does the trick. Making cannabutter with sativas is so much more fun and motivational though, makes you much higher in the head though so go easy for newbies.

I'd use it alongside her medication rather than instead of as even with cannabis I feel terrible without medication at least to start with, I see that Michelle isn't on medication but I'm sure I've read before that she smokes 10grams a day, that gives you an idea of how high you need to be to get full relief.
I take it she's not on steroids? As that wouldn't be good with brittle bone dissease. It's unlikely she'll get it but worth trying to get sativex from the doctor, I would but have a history of drug use so wouldn't get it.

My crohn's has got a lot worse recently and I'm going to try a meal replacement drink called Modulen IBD made by Nestlé which I've heard good things about, might be worth a try for your mum. Doctors won't mention it but should prescribe it if asked, can also be bought at pharmacies.

Anyway, best of luck let us know if it helps her, I bet she wont believe the difference.

i got ulcerative colitis aged 18, am 20 now, i go against doctors' advice and medicate solely with cannabis, made them put it on my record. did have asacol and colozide for a couple of months in the beginning, but these were horrible so gave them up and guess what i improved straight away. it's proper difficult to live this way in england though cos i am pickin up shoddy deals off the street, probably costing me 60 quid a week for about 10 grams (if that), gettin god knows what in it. can't go on like this but drugs and surgery are not an option not when i know this works if i had good clean supply, so have to hope for a change in the law..which is what i'm working on at uni! if they see at as mitgating circumstances in court cases etc., why do they bother punishing people at all can't they swallow their pride.. an incurable disease is entitlement enough to use cannabis.
GOD IT MAKES ME SO FUCKIN ANGRY at least amsterdam is only 50 minutes on the plane...
i can't get sativex either, no proof it will help me apparently and costs too much for them to give it me.

how do you find other people with chrones and colitis react when you talk about cannabis? it is like hitting my head against a brick wall sometimes, the people i have met harp on about psycosis like it has been drilled into them. regardless of the fact they are on steroids and mesalamine drugs which are far more dangerous things to be putting into your body in my opinion.

my summary of medicating with cannabis for the last 20 months is that it helps relieve symptoms and also enhances the body's own natural healing response. i find it fascinating that the IBD patients have more cannabinoid-receptors in our bowels than healthy people, an indication to me that this is the herb the body is crying out for

FAO; scrumpy jack, twenty three, weedman1000, dr benways assistant

have any of you with ibd talked about sativex with your GP? i believe it could really help what with it's make-up of CBD and THC, plus it is derived from the indica plant. It is not a wasted pursuit asking your GP to appeal to your PCT, even if you fail reapply. you never know if another person in your PCT area crops requesting it for the same thing they might start to take notice.



the above is a response from an NHS chief executive to my mp. looks like with a bit of pushing they might cave ??

Hey Sensimilla Heala thought I'd let you know that these are all predominantly sativa strains around 60% sat to 40% indi. I too find that ratio pretty good prefer slightly more sativa though. Pure sativas also work very well it's all down to individual strain, much testing required


I've been thinking about trying to get Sativex for a while but am reluctant to ask due to having recreational use on my medical record already but I'm seeing my specialist during the week so will try and drop it into the conversation.

Got any info about the dangers of mesalazine drugs?

in the amsterdam coffee shops i asked for the strongest and most dominant indicas all the time, and these are the strains that kept croppin up. and when i tried a sativa strain (purple haze on the menu) it was not as effective. either way i am not complaining, afghan kush is supposed to be really good as well seems to be what a lot of the medi-users in the US use.


it is my preference to tell doctors everything happening to my body. i have been open about cannabis with them since day one pretty much. when i was down the colitis clinic, i made him write it down on my record on my request. as for side-effects, this link askapatient.com, shows user response to asacol (mesalamine). ALSO, this link scroll down to page 5 'How Cannabis Compares to Other Treatments' is pretty useful.

trials. "First clinical trials with cannabis extracts in Crohn's disease are under way by the University of Munich (with Cannador) and by the British firm GW Pharmaceuticals (with Sativex)."

i spoke to GW pharma, worthwhile doing as yet another option. talked about trials, she said there were IBD trials happening right now in the UK, but dotted about the country. the woman to talk to is Pam on 0198 055 7013, try get on one of these.



i did try slippery elm briefly last year, but at a time when i really was struggling with diet. think i was having it with goat's milk and it just wasn't helping. now i am a little more in control i might try it again, how do you take it?

i no longer drink milk, it's like a poison! just illustrates how different each ibd is. have found vsl #3 probiotic helps a lot, coconut water (isotonic drink, like a natural sports drink, livens your mind) is good as well, fresh from a coconut. also meditteranean type diet is recommended, bell peppers, fresh fish, olives, and for herbs oregano and basil. steamed baking apple is good

Well thanks a million guys been a long time since ive been on this thread and only recently got back on uk420,
would like to give many thanks to everyone for all the information and personal experience you provided me in this thread

Ive finally got my mom to try cannabis and its very good news ...although theres still work to be done, convincing her the pharmacy meds are doing her noooo good.

Was just before March when my nanna/her mom was diognosed with cancer. My mom one paticular night was very stressed and in alot of pain more aggressive than whats shes used too.

"I say have a smoke with me mom, will relax you n your mind and possibly even help with your pain" crohns and back pain.
And she was up for it, I were in shock...she were like "yeah anything right now"

So i sprinted round my house grabbed some bud, skins n that, made her a nice coffe and skinned up a decent sized spliff
She had a couple of tokes and within minutes she started to feel the lovely calming affect, could see it in her face the instant relaxation.
My mom was very chilled and i just kept her calm and reasurred she was gonna be fine.

We talked and she giggled and giggled her head off for nearly 2 hours at anything was great. Was a very rare sight even seeing my mom laugh, its been years. I dont even think ive ever seen her laugh so hard

She said " I like...this its bloody good stuff"
Asked her how her pain was says " my pain has gone, no pain what so ever anywhere only when I laugh"

I asked her what she would compare cannabis to for pain relief. She got abit blagged..bless
she like "what do ya mean"

I said well would you say its as good as morphine....she instantly replied "better, morphine just knocks me out"

I was sat there looking at my mom all relaxed, pain free and smiley thinking...holly fuck a bit of weed has done more for her in 5min than what any belly proding white smock cock has done in over 15yrs.

The best thing is she said even 2-3 days after smoking canna, it was still giving her pain relief and relaxing her. For 2-3 days after...wow
She was out pottering around the garden the next day

So to sum it all up cannabis on my mom:-
1: Took away all of her pain and stress away 2: Had the best laugh in 10 years
3:Had a massive munch out after i'd gone. 4:Had a fantastic sleep 5: helped her stools the next day

.... Just really how good is this wonderful cannabis plant, is it seriously this good?
only problem
She doesn't wanna smoke it, I think because she mayb worried. About either getting hold of it on regular basis, i really dont know.

But i would personlay buy an extra setup for my moms meds if thats what it takes

Thanks to everyone really hope and wish you all the best, dont think this is the end yet still on a misson
At least i now know what cannabis can do for her
Take care Sf

ps. sorry about my grammer i know its shocking but the only books I have ever read are 3 grow books, sas survival guide and sniper book
reading/writing skills

Is it worth asking my mom to come on this site and read all this information and talk to you guys first hand??
I dont know enough about the medicinal side and find it very hard to talk to my mom seriously about this with my limited knowledge.

Think she just sees me as a young bias stoner. But suppose I smoke herb for totally different reasons

Reading these comments, she will be able to relate to you guys very well. And listen more

I think she needs real life information now, facts and all your personal experiances with crohns, meds, Ops etc and esspecially Cannabis.


Dont really know what to do or say anymore

Shes tried weed 3 times now on different occassions and every time its been a major success

Hey Sticky. Good job helping your Mum out dude. I suffer with very severe Crohns and on a day to day basis medicate solely with Cannabis. Ingesting it through Canna butter products and Joints Only very rarely do I allow myself to take the Pharms they dish out for Crohns, just can't stick them some are worse than Crohns.

Your Mum seems very open to the idea of medicating with Cannabis, she's tried it a few times now So keep the discussions going mate, bring her some literature to read and yeah, get her on the forums.

Good luck on your mission

Thanks alot mate would do anything to see her well or at least abit better. I feel for you Cambium it really is a nasty bastard disease
I dont think she would be as bad now if she didn't have all the different pharms for so many years.

Mate she always feels like shit, drowsy, dizzy n sick, always tired and generlly weak...I blame the meds
Seems everyone gets the same shit side affects from the big crohns drugs

Suppose her blood count being low as fuck dont help, (hemi-glo-bin count) sorry for spelling was 5 in march she still hasnt been for a blood tranfusion

She really does'nt help her self anymore refusses to go into hospital has done for yrs am mean eating red hot tikka massla curries all the time ffs surely that cant be good.
Gives me bad guts and shits like slop, what it gonna do for her...she only got half her intestines left.

Yeah i will try but she is very very stubbern,
I did hand her a report from this Karen from university Bath about cannabis and crohns.

Dont think she has read it tho

Im gonna go see her later and tell her to get her ass on here, think its the best way. Thinks its best if she can talk to crohns sufferes that actually use canna on a daily basis to medeicate with personal experiance of it all.

Its hard work this middle man shit

Thanks alot take care
Sf