Since im feeling kind this afternoon..... Here is how to get cheaper bubble bags.. The ones from the US are really expensive and there are some problems with delivery/tax. Bubble bags come with a nice pouch and are colour co-ordinated, but these are 1/4 the price!

Phone (01925 767667) or email (sales@fsiltd.demon.co.uk) FSI Filters

The products you want from them are as follows

• BNMO25P12X18DP
  
• BNMO45P12X18DP
  
• BNMO75P12X18DP
  
• BNMO125P12X18DP
  
• BNMO150P12X18DP
  
• BNMO175P12X18DP
  
• BNMO200P12X18DP
  

In english - this is Nylon monofilament Mesh bags, size 12" X 18" drawstring. With 25, 45, 75, 125, 150, 175 and 200 micron holes. This is virtually the same as the 7 bag bubblebag kit but will cost you about £50. I have made hash with this and it is very good.

They also do a welded seam so that you dont loose some of the hash in the seam. Ask about them, I have never tried em.

There is a PDF on their site somewhere called 12.other_mesh_filter_bags.pdf which explains the product codes and shows all the sizes of bag available (they are mostly a bit tall and thin, but ok). I have attached this here, but dont expect it to be up to date.

Mr bubbleman probably wont like me telling you this, but what the f****

NB!

respect!

nuff said!
BB

hmmm,

never used bubble bags often played with the idea of them tho.

if these materials stand up to the test then why not.

maby joolz should stock em as a 420 party pack tipe idea....

just a thought............ grasshopper

Nice work Nicebuds.

Looking at the pdf is there any reason not to get the 5 gallon pail (5GP) size ?

roughly how manys gallons does the 12 x 18 hold ? (I should probably be able to work it out but can't!)

Cheers for the info

npk

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Looking at the pdf is there any reason not to get the 5 gallon pail (5GP) size ?

Nope... I just got a smaller size before, I cant remember the size I have now, but they are good enough for my needs

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roughly how manys gallons does the 12 x 18 hold ? (I should probably be able to work it out but can't!)

about 10 litres i recon... I tried to do the maths and my head hurt

That seems enough for me - you can always pour the water through slowly (I use about 15 litres of water/ice and my bags hold about 3/4 litres)

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The ones from the US are really expensive and there are some problems with delivery/tax

Our's come from Canada and are very high quality, as is the end product.
Everyone I know that use's genuine BubbleBags are more than happy with what they got for their money.
If the same could be said for the cheaper competition, then we would stock those as well.

Hadn't noticed a problem with delivery tax either.
I phone the Bubble Man with my order, he phones me back with a price, I agree and pay, and I get a card 5 - 10 days later from Parcel Force saying my goods are ready to collect.

When I'm ready to pick them up, I pay the import tax which is applied at 17.5 % of the total order value because vat was not paid when they were purchased.
That's not a problem caused by Bubble man or his bags, its the way the C&E work!

We have a regular supply of bags coming in from Canada and apart from a stoned misunderstanding with our first order, we have had no problems whatsoever

I can understand your wish to do it cheaper, but its not just cost that needs to be considered.
At a guess, the company you are referring people to would keep a list of customer details ?
The fact that the url is linked from here means it would be fairly easy for the police to pick up on that co, moniter it for a few months, and then go looking for all the 'private' purchasers of 'industrial' filter socks.

They probably wouldn't................................but what if ??

It's not just about quality or savings, its about your security too!

We don't keep lists

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If the same could be said for the cheaper competition, then we would stock those as well.

Would it not be worth checking the quality of these FSI bags Joolz, and if up to the job, knocking out some uk420 branded bag sets ?

More choice is always good IMO.

I'd read on this forum before about the possibility of aquiring filter bags from industrial suppliers much more cheaply than the bubblebags (I think it was that old charmer himself 'trichromeuk' who made the post) but I'd never got round to ringing any of them 'cos I hate ringing these places unless I know exactly what to ask for.

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I can understand your wish to do it cheaper, but its not just cost that needs to be considered. At a guess, the company you are referring people to would keep a list of customer details ? The fact that the url is linked from here means it would be fairly easy for the police to pick up on that co, moniter it for a few months, and then go looking for all the 'private' purchasers of 'industrial' filter socks.

One rule I set myself when I started growing is that all my purchases related to my grow are made in person and with cash.

I won't break this rule so the only way I would buy bubblebags from any supplier would be to pick them up myself. I know how paranoia can grow inside my head so I refuse to plant its seed.

I'm not suggesting that the uk420 shop is insecure but my own set of rules don't allow me to use it. Not unless more expensive items can be collected in person that is.

I hope an important part of this sites purpose is to encourge and help people to make their own kit if they wish to. I've built my own hydro system and air cooled light and couldn't have done so
without access to the help and information I found on this site and others like it.

Its spot on for you to advise members to be careful with their identity. But I would worry if I thought the forums policy was to discourage members from making / buying diy versions of products that are in the shop.

Plenty of people will still prefer to pay the extra for an authentic set.

Just my thoughts, Don't all shout at me

npk

QUOTE (NPK @ Jun 4 2003, 12:17 PM)

Would it not be worth checking the quality of these FSI bags Joolz, and if up to the job, knocking out some uk420 branded bag sets ?

It might be worth it for somebody,but too be honest there already enough cheaper options out there without me inventing another set

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I'm not suggesting that the uk420 shop is insecure but my own set of rules don't allow me to use it. Not unless more expensive items can be collected in person that is.

Picking up in person and cash payments is not a problem

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I hope an important part of this sites purpose is to encourge and help people to make their own kit if they wish to. I've built my own hydro system and air cooled light and couldn't have done so without access to the help and information I found on this site and others like it.

Of course it is.
If someone has found a way to make good bubble hash on the cheap, good luck to them
Whether the quality of that bubble is as good as the bubble from our bags, remains to be seen, as does the durability of the bags which all counts when you set a value on anything.

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Plenty of people will still prefer to pay the extra for an authentic set.

When we first ordered bubble bags, it was because we had so many requests from members to do so.
Many of those were proud owners of ripped iceolater bags or inventors of alternative methods who required purer end results

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Just my thoughts, Don't all shout at me npk

the only reason I responded here in the first place was because of NiceBuds! hints at problems with ordering from the bubbleman without actualy saying what the problem was.
As I have said, I place regular orders with them and hadn't noticed anything to worry about ?

NPK I looked at this post yesterday, then looked at some of NiceBuds! posts, I especially liked the one on diy hydro and concluded this is a genuine person giving good tested info, so no problem its not a spam post. Although in this case it was a shame he had not done a test first to tell us how well the bags worked.

If I had a problem with the post at all it was that he uploaded a 380k pdf file, at 14 downloads thats round 3.5 MB of our bandwidth used so far. It would have been nicer if a link to the sellers download page had been added instead. As we are constantly looking to minimise our bandwidth.

If you look at our directory, there are over 600 links to site selling products. You have no idea how many people who sell things try and use our bulletin boards to spam our members, they are not interested in adding their site to the directory even though its free. So we have to make judgments about spam all the time, I hope it is done well keeping the boards friendly feel. I suppose as uk420 get larger the problem will get worse, there is always someone looking for a free lunch.

We have the store and its the only way we can see of covering our costs once it breaks even. So of course we are going to encourage people to use it and our affiliate Hydrotechno who donates a small bit of his profit for every sale through uk420.

We have no problem with members posting good diy projects or ways of saving money and no problem members saying xxxx store were really good I recommend them, as long as its genuine thats just fine.

We don’t want a site full of banners and popups, I hope you think we are taking the right decisions as a plan for uk420’s present and future, I can tell you its sure hard to please everyone.

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We don’t want a site full of banners and popups, I hope you think we are taking the right decisions as a plan for uk420’s present and future, I can tell you its sure hard to please everyone.

by growers for growers.............................

pop-up free and friendly......................

i was surpised of how many cannabusisness people are after a free lunch without declaring there interests.................?????

because of things i've seen on this site,

i've stopped purchasing from some place's,

as there busisness practice's stink............

the sad thing for me is if just half of the companys had 1/4 of uk420 policy's,

the legalisation struggle would be easier..........dearer for them though

you dont see uk420 members/mods/team leaders spamming cannabusisness's......

why ????because they need uk420 more than uk420 need them.............



cheers

sr

Hi guys....

sorry if Ive caused anyone any offense... I am writing just using my own experience in looking at bubble bags... I had a look around at all the different options and bubble bags looked very good, but expensive... I take back anything I said about tax or anything... I cant back it up at all so pls delete it (i think i read it on the bb site - someone from england complaining)

Like I said - sorry for any offence, bubblebags are obviously very good quality

The problem is peole dont want to risk a lot of cash if bubbling is not for them.... So I went looking for alternatives

I am not affiliated with fsi, but they seemed nice people... They supply filters to the motor and manufacturing trade... Normally if their filters bust then a very expensive engine has just been trashed and they would soon lose business.

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Although in this case it was a shame he had not done a test first to tell us how well the bags worked.

I think I mentioned that I have been using them for the last 3-4 months and have got some bangin hash from them... I havent been treating them with kid gloves either (they didnt come with a little pouch) and no ripping or signs of the mesh breaking down... I havent used bubblebags b4 so cant compare.

I happen to have a spare set... If someone wants to donate £30 quid or so to the uk420 server appeal, then they can have em to try out

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i was surpised of how many cannabusisness people are after a free lunch without declaring there interests.................?????

Sorry, my interests are smoking weed... growing weed... goin to pub and I like golf

I am not affiliated with anyone... just passing on info

Next time I wont bother

sorry nice-buds.... i wasn't on about you.....

and i did say

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by growers for growers

i was on about things i'd seen since getting a computer and joining uk420.....

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smoking weed... growing weed... goin to pub

i only do 2 of those, i stopped drinking ages ago..............

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Next time I wont bother

get your rattle back............. you had a smoke yet or what.......

ot already said..

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I looked at this post yesterday, then looked at some of NiceBuds! posts, I especially liked the one on diy hydro and concluded this is a genuine person giving good tested info, so no problem its not a spam post.

what's up widgya..............you on abad day or something.............


cheers


sr

sorry.... ill go wrap a fat one....

i think i'll join ya..................

a toast to growers/tokers and uk420.....................






sr

NiceBuds! you have not caused any problems as far as I can see. I don't normally look at hydro posts, I looked at your posts yesterday as as far as I’m concerned you are making a pretty positive contribution to this community.

I made my post to try and explain how hard it is on this side, I don’t think sr was having a dig at you, we get pretty frustrated with some of the tricks some people try and pull. Some of them are pretty dirty I can tell you.

All of us give our time for nothing because we want people to grow their own green. I just wanted members to know how hard it is on this side, keeping the site balanced, a nice place to be. It take a lot of work.

Out of curiosity is it easy keeping the drill paint stirrer away from the side of the bags. One of the main problems people report is getting the bag sides wrapped round the stirrer. Sorry if this sounds like a dumb Q but I still use an old Zeef tumbler and have not got into wet filtering as of yet.

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Picking up in person and cash payments is not a problem

Thats good to know Joolz

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I hope you think we are taking the right decisions as a plan for uk420’s present and future, I can tell you its sure hard to please everyone.

Sounds good to me

Vote no to Spam, Yes for the freedom of good quality information.

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a toast to growers/tokers and uk420.....................

raising the j to my lips right now................cheers

npk

QUOTE (oldtimer1 @ Jun 4 2003, 02:42 PM)

Out of curiosity is it easy keeping the drill paint stirrer away from the side of the bags. One of the main problems people report is  getting the bag sides wrapped round the stirrer.

Soon on the Market...."Twosheds Patent-Pending BagShield"

Blades getting caught?.....No Problem!

Bags lifting off the sides....No Problem!

Tentatively mixing in the middle?.....No Problem!

As mentioned on another post...Get another 5gal drum & cut bottom off,( ya might need to trim off toplip/handle grip bit.)set-up bags as normal,slip the "sleave" you have now made into bags.This will hold the bags tightly against the sides of your drum.Hope this explains the principle.You can now mix like a mad man,and never worry about catching your expensive bags.


edited to add;- NiceBuds good info thx & keep posting.As SR states UK420 gotta be on thier toes,some of the things we have seen,people trying to sell anything......did I mention "Bagshield"

Respect to everyone for their input, info, and for not getting in to flame wars!

It's a tribute to our team and our members that this place is so open and friendly - and still standing on its own feet.

Once again much respect to Joolz for bringing so many wonderful, if slightly stoners

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Out of curiosity is it easy keeping the drill paint stirrer away from the side of the bags. One of the main problems people report is getting the bag sides wrapped round the stirrer. Sorry if this sounds like a dumb Q but I still use an old Zeef tumbler and have not got into wet filtering as of yet.

Personally I wouldnt put a spinning paint stirrer anywhere near my bags! I get 2 buckets, mash the stuff up with the ice + water and then pour it through the bags into the other bucket. The stirrer comes nowhere near the bags

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I get 2 buckets, mash the stuff up with the ice + water and then pour it through the bags into the other bucket. The stirrer comes nowhere near the bags

that's me aswell..................back and forth from bucket to bucket,
just changing the bag size each time...........just for ease though......
i can do it quicker this way......


sr

Its like watching technology evolve in front of your very eyes - nice work all round

edited for spelling!

Hi NiceBuds!

nice post!

cheap is good

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One rule I set myself when I started growing is that all my purchases related to my grow are made in person and with cash.

same here fella unless i purchase from uk420 with my card... even then the customers detials arent kept!

good work NiceBuds!

Riz

hi nicebuds!,anyone taken you up on your offer[set your bags £30 to 420 fund],if not please get in touch regards twinkle