hedgejumper
Apr 1 2008, 05:33 PM
Howdy people! Right this is my first ever grow so if I lean on ya its only to learn!
The one plant I'm hopin for good results from is this:
Magic bud
Magic Bud is a fine blend of Indica and Sativa. This plant produces beautiful resin coated nugs in a relatively short time, approximately 56 days indoors.
Type: Indica/ Sativa
Flowering: Approx 56 days indoors. Outdoors Middle of October (n.L.)
Yield: 400 grams per m2 indoors. Outdoors approx. 500 grams per plant
Environment: Indoors. Outdoors between 50? n.L. and 50? s.L.
Effect/Buzz: Pleasant Sativa-Indica high
Smell/Taste: Floral, aromatic
I have also a mixed pack of 40 outdoor indicas from sensi seeds so might go crazy and plant most of them if I can find enough plots.
Speaking of plots I've found at least 5 good ones, all facing south and have a river flowing nearby. Dug down about 3" and the soil was still nice and wet so hoping if we get a drought I wont be working and panicing constantly!
I was wondering though, my sites are quiet varied (pics to follow) so will i need to mix new soil with the old to increase the nutrients(?) but if i do this could it affect how wet the soil gets(?!)
Have started germinating the seeds today so will be in pots by the weekend hopefully then into the greenhouse they go!! Have heard that b y starting them in there for a month or so it helps the get stronger/bigger/better some how.
Have I left it too late this year or will I be pushed for time you recon?
Anyway any help would be amazin and muchly appreciated! Will keep you posted asap.
CHill!!
nanuck1980
Apr 1 2008, 05:42 PM
Good luck pal, enjoy yourself
puff-puff-pass
Apr 1 2008, 09:35 PM
sounds good mate, im thining about magic bud this year, anyone grown this in the past that could help me make my mind up?
and na mate not to late at all, i didnt germ some of my seeds untill early may and still got some nice bud!!
peace
green_lungs06
Apr 1 2008, 11:17 PM
Good luck mate, im looking foward to seeing your magic buds bloom, stay on this site and you cant go wrong...these people are sound!!!
Its good to be back, missed last season due to personal reasons and am getting back in the game this season so should be good!
Heddwch
Jammyd0dger
Apr 1 2008, 11:24 PM
Good luck with your grow mate, im also doing a outdoor grow, lets hope we get a good summer
Marcos
Apr 2 2008, 09:29 AM
Good luck with the grow fella
hedgejumper
Apr 2 2008, 05:16 PM
Cheers for the support guys!
Will keep ya posted!
hedgejumper
Apr 4 2008, 11:51 PM
Righty then, have an update for you.
The 3 fem seeds have sprouted a shoot so are now in their first pot, shoulda put them in a bigger pot i guess (will do that with the next 10 that are coming), as for the mixed seeds they are still in the tin germinating.
The pots are in the greenhouse already, should be ok i think, what you all think?
Bit of a problem with the 10 fem seeds tho, ordered them on mon arrived y'day but they were regular ones!:headpain: But all's good, emailed the company and they said if i sent them back they'll send the right ones!

Got one site all prepared, more to come this weekend.
Will get pics on as soon as i steel the misses digi camera.
Take it easy!
Marcos
Apr 5 2008, 02:02 PM
LET'S ROCK!
hedgejumper
Apr 6 2008, 01:58 PM
Hasar! Nother update for you, cos of the nice weather y'day managed to get another 6 sites sorted, more to come next weekend!
As for photos, my bad, forgot the camera!
Just a quick Q bout pest control, is there a way of deterring wabbits without putting up some sorta fence? thought on an idea, excuse the crappy pic tho. Basically was thinking bout using a 20cm long 15cm wide piece of drain pipe (red) with smaller pipes (green) atteched to the inside edge. Out of these theres poles (blue) and a chicken wire fence wrapped round them. Of course ill paint the drain pipe camo (whites a BIT obvious dont ya think!?).
Whats everyone else doing for wabbit control?
Hope u like the drawing!
turfsire
Apr 6 2008, 03:08 PM
i love vollyball
GUERRILLA FARMER
Apr 6 2008, 05:58 PM
hi turf,
there is such a thing as wild animal deterrant, which you can pick up from all good garden centres . failing that, cat or dog shit do deter wabbits to an extent. also, once you have your sites established, take a piss around and about, and that deters the little fekkers too.
hope this helps, best regards, G.F.
P.S. personally though, i,d set up some snares so every time you check your plants,you will also get some critters for the pot! best regards, always the environmentalist, G.F.
hedgejumper
Apr 7 2008, 06:32 PM
QUOTE(GUERRILLA FARMER @ Apr 6 2008, 06:58 PM)

hi turf,
there is such a thing as wild animal deterrant, which you can pick up from all good garden centres . failing that, cat or dog shit do deter wabbits to an extent. also, once you have your sites established, take a piss around and about, and that deters the little fekkers too.
hope this helps, best regards, G.F.
P.S. personally though, i,d set up some snares so every time you check your plants,you will also get some critters for the pot! best regards, always the environmentalist, G.F.
Cheers for the advice mate, dunno where u got the name turf from tho!? Had a flash of an idea tho, the previous pic i posted ignore that! Thats waaaaay to over complicated, what was it some1 once said, "the best ideas are always simple", so with that in mind I thought bout using a 30-40cm piece of 2.5" drain pipe part burried. maybe give it a bit of camo pianting. U get the idea!
Another thought, a few of my sites are in a valley which freezes easily so would it be wise to move them up the hill?
Whens a good time to nip the top of the plant? Was thinking bout trying to keep them low, like a bush but dont wanna do it too early and stunt the growth (is that possible?)
Cheers for any advice dudes, still trying to blag the womans camera so keep watchin will try and get pics asap!!
PS, Volleyball lmao, never saw that b4!! well if i get bored i know what to do!!!
hedgejumper
Apr 10 2008, 08:30 PM
Grrrrrrrr just typed loads out and pushed wrong button, now I gotta retype it all, gunna take a bit longer methinks, been

and buttons moving

but gotta do it! Once again sorry but no pics, will have to try harder I know

Right where was I..........

........ Got another plot in the ground, right in the middle of loads of brambles, shoulda worn tougher clothes, got pretty torn up and I slipped with my knife whilst taking my revenge

Slit my thumb open but hey, no pain no gain! And nothing minor injurys cant sort out!
Its probably just under 1 meter square and a good 1/2 foot of new soil/compost, put some miracle grow water crystals and slow release food pellets mixed in, didnt really do it to the scale that they said. Think that could lead to over fertilising them? Hopefully it wont! All thats left to do now is put the fences up!
Had a set back as well, the magic bud fem seeds i ordered arrived but turned out to be regular ones so gunna be 2 weeks tops delayed with them.
On a good note tho the 3 fems I germed have all sprouted on my window, had a scare with them too they were in the green house and endured 2 frosty mornings thought I had better rescue them and glad I did! The other 10 that were germing, 6 are now in soil and awaiting the others to crack.
Anyway I'm knackered so gunna have another

and bed!
Take it easy!
hedgejumper
Apr 13 2008, 05:32 PM

Right things aint going too well, 2 of the fems arent growing too quick but 1 is and out of the mix packet only 2 have sprouted. think the cold mighta damaged them beyond repair. As for the other 10 fem seeds I've emailed the company to check if they arrived and they seen no sign of them so getting a bit worried now.
But anyway I went shoppin for some rooting cubes and a decent propagator so gunna start some more of the mixed ones again.
Hopefuklly Ill have better news and pics next time.
Chill you lot.
hedgejumper
Apr 14 2008, 05:22 PM
Right still no pics (i know its pointless writing without them) but I'v got the propagator set up with the rooting cubes and mixed seeds. Out of the 3 fems only 1 is alive and i got 2 of the mixed coming up nicely.
Is there a way to stop new plants from streching too much but using only sunlight (rather than the distance from lights to plant as you would doing an indoor grow)? All 3 that are growing are about 3" big but only 1 small set of leaves.
I've set a fluorsesent light up about 4" above the propagator roof with the new seeds to see if it makes a difference.
I got a problem with the fem seeds that were mixed up as well. Misses sent them back last week, recorded sending but not recoreded delivery, and still had no answer besides "Send them back to us and we'll change them" from the company despite emailing at least 5 times. Got a bad feeling their gunna say they never arrived and I end up 40 quid outa pocket AND NO F*CKING SEEDS!
Anyone got any advice on that?
As for my sites I'v thought no point sorting out pest control and that untill I at least get them growing.
I dunno wheather to jack it all in this year even b4 it gets going.
hedgejumper
Apr 15 2008, 06:29 PM
Hurrah!

Recieved an email from the seed company, been havin supplier problems so got to choose = value or a refund! Oh the choices!!

Have now decided on 5X A.M.S fems from greenhouse seeds and 5X fem passion #1, so hopefully they'll arrive shortly and then.............ITS ON!!!

Will keep ya informed!
Give us a good luck msg, believe in karma anyone?
mam
Apr 19 2008, 09:51 AM
Hi hedgejumper
QUOTE
Give us a good luck msg, believe in karma anyone?
good luck hope all goes well for ya fella hope you have a successful grow and monster cured bud mam
hedgejumper
Apr 21 2008, 05:32 PM
Recieved them in the post today so germin asap, run into bit of a prob (parents decided to enter my room and found the propagator) so hoping to sort that as well by saying its only for a month and only for personal (got 15 on the go and then these fems so gunna have to try and get them to turn a blind eye). Their pretty cool so who knows!
Anyway if that doesnt go to plan can do it at a mates but means even more delays, can anyone recommend whats the lastest you could plant out by?
Could do with advice as starting to worry im gunna miss this season!
cheers guys!
Amazing Jeans
Apr 21 2008, 05:39 PM
Have heard of people putting out mid May so you have time still.
hedgejumper
Apr 22 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE(Amazing Jeans @ Apr 21 2008, 06:39 PM)

Have heard of people putting out mid May so you have time still.
What sort of harvest would i be looking at if i planted around then?
:update................1 more plot in the ground, fem seeds germing.
Amazing Jeans
Apr 22 2008, 09:01 PM
Not 100% sure but a fairly good one I reckon.
Marcos
Apr 23 2008, 07:36 AM
QUOTE(hedgejumper @ Apr 22 2008, 08:19 PM)

QUOTE(Amazing Jeans @ Apr 21 2008, 06:39 PM)

Have heard of people putting out mid May so you have time still.
What sort of harvest would i be looking at if i planted around then?
:update................1 more plot in the ground, fem seeds germing.

Even if you put them out on the 1st of June you'll get a good 8+ weeks of pure veg time under the biggest grow light on earth .. literately!
smeagol
Apr 23 2008, 11:50 AM
QUOTE(hedgejumper @ Apr 22 2008, 08:19 PM)

QUOTE(Amazing Jeans @ Apr 21 2008, 06:39 PM)

Have heard of people putting out mid May so you have time still.
What sort of harvest would i be looking at if i planted around then?
:update................1 more plot in the ground, fem seeds germing.

i put plants out on 18th june last year .. they were lush but as most growers did suffered with bud rot cos of the piss poor summer last yr
GH0STWITHTH3M0ST
Apr 23 2008, 02:18 PM
i plan on putting mine outside toward the middle of june. i'm pretty sure you'll be fine. though, i have some of oct. before the days get short and cold. when does your summer start to come till a hault?
GH0STWITHTH3M0ST
Apr 23 2008, 02:19 PM
*to a hault...
hedgejumper
Apr 23 2008, 05:38 PM
This is UK mate, summer lasts all of 3 days spread over 3 months!!! Nah its not too bad ends around august-sep time, got an old gipsy friend who says we're due for an indian summer (hotter, later in the year), so BONUS! if it is, even longer veggin time!!
QUOTE(Marcos @ Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM)

Even if you put them out on the 1st of June you'll get a good 8+ weeks of pure veg time under the biggest grow light on earth .. literately!

Not only is it the biggest grow light, Most eco-friendly one as well!!!
hedgejumper
Apr 23 2008, 06:01 PM
I've just been reading the "outdoor soil mix" thread and lotsa people have said that digging a hole and filling it with soil is a bad idea.
My sites are about 1 foot wide, 6" deep filled with either morrisons or john innes no 3, with miracle grow slow release food pellets and water retension crystals. But hey, made my first of many mistakes! Think around oct-nov gunna start preparing for next year.
Hows everyone else preparing?
Chill........
turfsire
Apr 23 2008, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(hedgejumper @ Apr 23 2008, 06:38 PM)

This is UK mate, summer lasts all of 3 days spread over 3 months!!! Nah its not too bad ends around august-sep time, got an old gipsy friend who says we're due for an indian summer (hotter, later in the year), so BONUS! if it is, even longer veggin time!!
QUOTE(Marcos @ Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM)

Even if you put them out on the 1st of June you'll get a good 8+ weeks of pure veg time under the biggest grow light on earth .. literately!

Not only is it the biggest grow light, Most eco-friendly one as well!!!
ya man its earth day
hedgejumper
Apr 23 2008, 06:09 PM
Dont knock it mate, who else is gunna sort out our planet, i recon if we grow enough ganga the green house gases would decrease and we could stop global warming!! although probably we'd suffer from global shading due to the amount of smoke in the athmosphere!!! :lmao:
hedgejumper
Apr 28 2008, 05:27 PM
Before you all laugh or take the piss, maybe even some encouragement I've finally got some pics of the propagator! HURRAH!

I know theres only 3 that have sprouted in the pics but they were taken last fri. As of this morning theres 8 in the greenhouse that are 3"-5" high, the 4fems i germed on fri are 2" high and theres another 5 mixed just shooting. All the tother fems i started germing and the mixed that havent done anything yet I've put them back in a dark place to try and help germing but not expecting any from these.
I've had to reduce the pic sizes as they were all too big but next time i'll reduce the quality, another lesson learnt!!!
Running way behind as expected but hey its only a bit of fun!!!
(Father was in last fri so couldnt exactly disappear down the greenhouse with the digicam, less he asks the better cos hes already making sly comments

)
Take it easy

(No point putting the others on, resolutions really crap after cropping the pic so the size is right.)
hedgejumper
Apr 28 2008, 05:56 PM
Been thinking bout my sites, some dont have any/little visual cover so how can i train/bend them without breaking or damaging them? Any advice would be brill as i've got no idea!! (Doing research in a mo but if theres a way thats worked good for anyone else, let me know!!) Cheers
smeagol
Apr 28 2008, 06:14 PM
there are various ways to train/bend a plant .. a rock on the end of some rope or twine which is attached to the branch works .. you will need to top the plants 1st and then gradually train the side branches down .. don't bend to much .. gradually increase the bend with each visit ... you could use tent pegs or wooden stakes as anchor points instead of a rock ...
hedgejumper
Apr 29 2008, 09:41 PM
Cheers for the info mate will have to try that, might even try a leaning method ive just read about....
Anyway been out in the brambles again today and i brought the camera!! only thing is the resolutions too high still so havent got as many as i took but will be out again 2moro to take some more!

Got 3 more holes in the ground, changed my tactics slightly as I've been learning,

might even end up re-doing the 1st few sites or even not bothering with them, gotta see how it goes 1st! Took me bloody ages to get this far in then realised I didnt actually have that much soil so will prob return to do a few more in this area.
Would you say I needed to dig bigger holes? Its a mixture of john innes no. 3 with slow release food pellets and water retaining crystals.
hedgejumper
Apr 29 2008, 09:46 PM
This is one of my earlier and biggest sites, was gunna put maybe 3-4 in this but might redo it with 4 separate holes rather than 1 big one. Anyone think that would be better?
hedgejumper
Apr 29 2008, 09:49 PM
The only pic of the plants I managed to shrink enough is of my magic bud fem, shes 2 weeks old been in the propagator first then into a pot in the greenhouse,should she be as small as that or could that be down to just being in the g'house and having a couple of cold nights? Really hoping the heat kicks in soon so they get a growth spurt like an adolescent teenager!
Anyway thanks for any advice or even reading this! Tryin me best I'll have them other pics tomorrow.
Take it eay
Archangel
Apr 29 2008, 09:57 PM
Thats fine mate except them blue things...take em out and top the pot up right to the top with soil...
hedgejumper
Apr 30 2008, 05:11 PM
QUOTE(Archangel @ Apr 29 2008, 10:57 PM)

Thats fine mate except them blue things...take em out and top the pot up right to the top with soil...
The blue things are slug pellets, as you could probably guess, already had 1/2 a plant chomped by 1 but have no other means of protection at the mo. Could it damage the plant or give a bad taste to the final product? Any suggestions on a good repellant?
Took some more pics so will post in a min.
Archangel
Apr 30 2008, 05:16 PM
Yeah as you water it it will water the chems into the roots possibly killing the plant unless there special and are designed for that.
Id put the pot on a tray/saucer or a brick or something and pour salt all around. When its that young it should still be on the windowsill or under light really...
hedgejumper
Apr 30 2008, 05:21 PM
Here is a decent shot of my propagator, the 2 really stretched on the left are DP fems and the little one is an AMS fem (other AMS is just sprouting), others are mixed. Their looking ok i think, nothing too bad just stretched loads!! In my lil dark room theres another 5 mixed germing, 3 more DP fems 3 more AMS fems and a jack black fem. All going well when I go home later some will have sprouted!!! YAY!

Anyway back to the photo.................
hedgejumper
Apr 30 2008, 05:29 PM
This is whats in the greenhouse atm, few injurys so far.......... A slug got to one (on the left, 2nd pic) and ate half the first set of leaves so dunno whats going on with that just gunna see what happens and i dont really know what happened to the bent plant but gunna try and make the best of a worse situation and see what happens! (again)
A lot of this years grow is hope and luck with little skill but hey, even if i get a j's worth ill feel like i managed to grow summit! Still praying on the sky to let the sun thru to make my babies monsters!!
If theres something I havent noticed wrong or anything i could do better, please let me know! Will be VERY appreciated!
Anyway i'm off for a smoke as crashed my car earlier and IM GAGGIN!

.............ahhh/...............much better!

Chill
GH0STWITHTH3M0ST
May 1 2008, 01:20 AM
those ties are looking a little tight. take arch's advice, take the pellets out. you should sprinkle them around the pots, not on the soil. the chemicals WILL hurt your plant. aand they need more light and from the looks of it better treated soil. GOOD LUCK!
jolene
May 1 2008, 09:01 AM
You only need 1 slug pellet every few inches - for someone saying save the planet you sure have spread a lot of toxins around - when the slugs eat these they may in turn be eaten by hedgehogs, birds and frogs which will also die. Sorry to preach but you have to be more careful with poisons there are other alternatives to these type of pellets.
oldtimer1
May 1 2008, 09:31 AM
I keep recommending Advanced slug and snail killer pellets, it can be used around children, pets and wildlife as it only targets the slugs. It also remains effective after rain and watering. Its approved for organic farming.
So you know what to look for:-
Click to view attachment
hedgejumper
May 2 2008, 07:51 PM
Thanks for all your advice guys, will def take all the pellets out now. Had a change of circumstances and had to move all the seedlings so they're all indoors now on a window sill. I've been thinking and got a few questions for you, sorry if it looks like im taking the piss, just realised how little i actually know about all this.
1, Is the reason why they've stretched a result of not enough direct light? I have no means of setting up a light source so is being on a window enough?
2, Whats a good decent soil to use for the holes? Have just been picking up big bags of it and sticking it in the ground, more hope and a prayer then knowledge.
3, How much soil is a good amount per hole? I've only put around 10-15 litres in each and now doubting that its not enough.
Christ this is a disaster.
Thank you once again for all your advice.
Randalizer
May 2 2008, 08:10 PM
I'll be good to ya once you change that avatar from a stinkin' pile of shit to something more appealing.
jolene
May 2 2008, 09:17 PM
They are tiddly so is there anywhere you can stash them outside? It will toughen them up, give them more light and a bit of wind will strengthen their stems. Lack of light causes stretch as does high humidity and warm temperatures. Is your windowsill above a radiator?
Why not just fork over a wide area and not plant in a hole? They will spread their roots further and it will help them resist drought better then you can mulch around the roots to keep them moist and provide nutrients afterwards - it will save you digging loads and will probably give you better results.
Good man for losing the pellets - the ones Oldtimer recommends are good as the slugs stop eating and bugger off to die (apparently - I use them and never see any dead ones and they protect my plants just fine, whereas when you use the conventional ones you get loads of slime and dead, twisted slugs everywhere). If you use them in conjunction with slug traps, copper tape and nemaslug (predatory nematodes) then you will be free of slug attacks until they are bigger. If you only have a couple of plants then it is dead easy to make a slug proof barrier.
Hang on in there! It's a friggin weed - if you get it past the baby stage you are home free (apart from rabbits, deer, mould, aphids, thrips, the fuzz, ramblers, rippers, horses, geese (no, really), rainstorms, drought and other pestilence
hedgejumper
May 3 2008, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(Randalizer @ May 2 2008, 09:10 PM)

I'll be good to ya once you change that avatar from a stinkin' pile of shit to something more appealing.


will do!
QUOTE(jolene @ May 2 2008, 10:17 PM)

They are tiddly so is there anywhere you can stash them outside? It will toughen them up, give them more light and a bit of wind will strengthen their stems. Lack of light causes stretch as does high humidity and warm temperatures. Is your windowsill above a radiator?
Why not just fork over a wide area and not plant in a hole? They will spread their roots further and it will help them resist drought better then you can mulch around the roots to keep them moist and provide nutrients afterwards - it will save you digging loads and will probably give you better results.
Good man for losing the pellets - the ones Oldtimer recommends are good as the slugs stop eating and bugger off to die (apparently - I use them and never see any dead ones and they protect my plants just fine, whereas when you use the conventional ones you get loads of slime and dead, twisted slugs everywhere). If you use them in conjunction with slug traps, copper tape and nemaslug (predatory nematodes) then you will be free of slug attacks until they are bigger. If you only have a couple of plants then it is dead easy to make a slug proof barrier.
Hang on in there! It's a friggin weed - if you get it past the baby stage you are home free (apart from rabbits, deer, mould, aphids, thrips, the fuzz, ramblers, rippers, horses, geese (no, really), rainstorms, drought and other pestilence
Wow not a lot to worry about then! Been shopping earlier, got some of those Advanced Slug pellets (taken the others out the pots and watered y'day), will pick up a slug trap tomorrow but cant find copper tape anywhere! Been in the local B&W, focus and a few garden centers, not many people have heard of it!
Picked up some perlite as well, can it be used with the soil when I get them in the ground?
Jolene, if I just turned the ground over would I need to prepare in any other way? like fish blood and bone or summin like that?
Cheers again!
hedgejumper
May 4 2008, 06:05 PM
HURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Found some copper tape at last!!!!!! But 2 fems died in transport t'other day,

the first set of leaves came off, as in snapped away from the stem so essentially they dont have any sorta top. Can they still grow at all u think?
Had to repot 4 plants as they're getting bigger, used the perlite in the new soil, looking much better but when i took them out I couldnt see much of a root ball so will try covering the pot.
Got another question about what jolene was saying, if I forked over the ground what sort of mulch would be best? Dont have enough time to make any but could a mulching sheet be just as good?
3 of them are getting big so will be hardening them off this week and hopefully going out in the next. They wont be as big as what other peoples plants are but feel like if I dont do it soon then I might not get anything off them come harvest time.
Hows everyone elses crop coming along? Feel free to put a pic of something that your proud of on if you like, might give me some more inspiration!!
hedgejumper
May 5 2008, 07:28 PM
Hello again, Ive been out to the sites again with a mate all

like and redone most of them, added some more BUT this time, thanks to all your help, I've dug deeper, mixed the top soil with new compost with a little bit of perlite and fish blood and bone and even found some mulch!!!!

So feelin bit more confident about them now!
Im using root riot cubes but they dry out really quick, having to dip them in water every other morning to keep them moist. Has anyone else used them for seedlings and had any problems?
Gunna repot all the cubes that have grown, think they need some more space and the soil will keep them a bit more moist so less panicing when I gotta work.
Anyway got lots to do so take it easy y'all
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