High there,er I just wanted to say that when i had a vapourizer.i would sometimes have to smoke soap-bar through it.Now-this is gonna be hard to believe but,It tasted lovely,it got me real high,and then,a few weeks later i would clean the soap-bar oil off of the inside of the vapourizer,and smoke it!!
it was such a wonderful taste n high...so amber-reddish...the weed oil was golden.
.....(looks up at the sky whistfully)It was like smoking for the first time again,
but,alas..since then ive broken my vapourizer,repaired it...and then broken it again many,many times(I kept leaving it turned on!)and now im skuffing every bit of weed i grow...i cant be bothered to be monged out any more.....i wanna be high!!...
er,i kinda lost track there...but my point(i think) was to say if ya gotta smoke that bloody shite-bar,then smoke it in the vapourizer,its what i did...and it didnt do me any harm.....'gibber gibber'....(makes sound of fingers rubbing on lips)

QUOTE (Rastafarout @ May 29 2003, 04:14 PM)

,then smoke it in the vapourizer,its what i did...and it didnt do me any harm.....'gibber gibber'....(makes sound of fingers rubbing on lips)

If its soapbar mate, it don't matter how you administer it.
Its doing you harm

Yeah man - get green get clean(er)

Er,I think youll find smoking anything is doing you harm mate.

hi Rastafarout,

if you vapourise soapbar, you will get high..............

but it's a chemical hit off the glue,road tar,coffee, and the rest of the shite that's in it...

if soapbar is smoked/vapourised or eaten,it makes no difference...

it's


sr

QUOTE (Rastafarout @ May 30 2003, 01:10 PM)

Er,I think youll find smoking anything is doing you harm mate.

I know - but best minimise the risk and actually KNOW what you're smokin eh?

Hmmmm... I thought vaporisers only heat to the point that THC vaporises...

Surely this level of heat would not be able to burn most of the impurities in Shitebar?

Soap cut with coffee and cornflour isn't exactly too detrimental to your health. It depends where and who makes the soapbar.....

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Hmmmm... I thought vaporisers only heat to the point that THC vaporises... Surely this level of heat would not be able to burn most of the impurities in Shitebar?

hi dj perv,

what level?????there is no temp control on cheap vaporisers................

they get to hot, and also give off metal oxides off the heating plate............

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Soap cut with coffee and cornflour isn't exactly too detrimental to your health.

if someone wants to smoke coffee and flour, thats there choice,

but it's never just those, you forgot to mention any bonding agents used..........

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It depends where and who makes the soapbar.....

no it dont...................it's shit m8 honest.................

the only reason for soapbar is £££££££,cheap to make, cheap to buy.......


dump the dealer and his soapbar................

grow green.........




sr

High there,Im sorry if ive given you the wrong idea...I dont smoke soap-bar..I really dont!! .I smoke hash made from my plants,therefore I COULD say to all the weed smokers that smoking more plant than you have to is not a good thing(who wants to smoke the plant matter?).shake the resin off!.You should all make hash or oil .also,i would like to point out that my investigations have revealed that the oils vapourize at around 110-130c.Mine was temperature controlled,,but i gotta admit that what was left in the bowl DID look a bit like coffee.Something thats always amused me is calling it 'Soap-Bar'...THAT would imply that it was clean!...Whats that all about,hmm!.
Needless to say,i did get a bit panicky when i saw all these replies telling me off for smoking soap-bar!!.I must of sent it to the wrong forum cause I was trying to respond to someone elses e-mail cause they have to smoke soap-bar.
I was trying to say to him that if he HAS to smoke soap-bar,then he should smoke it in a vapourizer.
(wipes tear away)..."I love you guys!".

Ps.that Minali photo looks absoulutely loverly!

Trust me, I would grow - But i really can't.
I don't want to broadcast it over the internet, But it's impossible over here. Otherwise i would, definitely.

I would smoke anything other than soap, but there's nothing else to get over here.
Plus a dealer i know buys bars of pollem, but makes them into soap, without using glue... I see him do it if i'm wishing to purchase, and yes he uses coffee and cornflour, but never any glue or chemicals.
Personally i don't blame him. Why sell an oz of pollem when he can make about 3 oz of soap for £480
Dealers aren't in it for the satisfaction of others - It is all money orientated, I agree with you. Buit where i am, there will ALWAYS be a market for soap.

Aye, cheap vaporisers are shit - they're cheap.

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Plus a dealer i know buys bars of pollem, but makes them into soap,

hang the barsteward

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Why sell an oz of pollem when he can make about 3 oz of soap for £480

errrrr because thats the decent and honest thing to do,

how much does he sell a 1/4 for????

what does he use to bond it together??????

what other stuff does he throw in??????

how does it burn??????

cheers

sr

Trust me SR, I ain't happy about it either. He's a backbstabbing bastard, literally. Why be honest and good natured when he's only driven by money and greed?
He uses this natural gum shit, it's not toxic.
It burns surpirsingly well - Cornflour and coffee are his weapons of choice.
For a Q, he sells 7 grams of his mixture

He's a c*nt

But he's the best around, if you can believe that.

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But he's the best around, if you can believe that

Cant believe anyone who puts cornflour and coffee in their gear is ''the best around''

meh

Yeah, but you don't live on a 9 X 5 island do you??

You live, presumably in London due to your name where cannabis is easy to get hold of, and of a reasonable quality.

id rather smoke cigarettes than soap

by buying it ur just encouraging the production & mebbe ur dealer rips other ppl off as badly as u, mebbe kids.

by smoking it ur risking ur health.

ur also wasting ur money on stuff that wudnt get my cat high

refuse to buy soap, its no great loss, might make u get off ur arse & find some1 that sells real hash/weed instead of soap bar

i cant believe u like smoking corn flour & coffee

i also cant believe he can sell 3 oz of soap for £480 -- skunk is cheaper ffs (even if u buy in 1/8ths)

you are getting seriously ripped off, ur dealer needs a good beating.

btw: ur cough should start to get better abt a month after u stop smoking that crap, u'll be almost recovered in 3 months

3oz of soapy for £480 man thats a f**king rip off, an oz around here usually goes for about £40-50 but it sux good style. I think one of the main problems with getting rid of soapbar is the price you have to pay for a good bit bud, usually £30 min a qtr unless you know the guy for a favour. This is expensive (at a 1/2 qtr a day easily) and as long as the cheaper option is going to there, people will buy!

hes already explained "I was trying to say to him that if he HAS to smoke soap-bar,then he should smoke it in a vapourizer." which is fair enough and i would agree, i would go further and suggest making honey oil from soapbar which i have successfully done. i have rarely gotten shite soapbar and not all of it is bad. many people think temple ball hash is a superior product so what if the dealers started to make their mixtures into imitation temple balls, then everybody would be saying dont smoke temple ball its shite even though good balls are still being made. i agree the vast majority of hash which happens to be in the shape of a 250g bar of soap is crap, some dealers do care though, you have to find one who knows what he is at and be prepared to pay for quality.

the real problem is the initial criminals who go to morroco etc are offered various grades from the original farmers, they always go for the cheap grades since they dont give a shit, its all about profit and profits are better selling crap in bulk. BUT there are people who smuggle small amounts of high grade soap since they know their customers will gladly pay the extra. most shitebar dealers dont care about their customers and dont care if they get business from them again, nobody is going to believe some guy in a pub claiming his hash is so good that he has to charge £250 per oz. thats a reason why honey oil and good bubblehash dont sell, there's no buyers trusting enough, you have to get to know and trust a good dealer to be a trusting buyer.

i never sell weed but give it freely to friends who often give me a chunk of soap as a thank you, most is good and i always vapourise it with a good vapouriser, a steinel 3000 series. if its shite soap i give it back and say i have enough. i still like good soap as a nightcap.

This is a crazy discussion, traditional hash is made from sieved tricomes or is hand rubbed its a fairly natural product. Break it open and look under a microscope and that is what you see. The purest is just tricomes, the lower the grade the more contaminates ie bits of leaf, pistils and dirt.

I have looked at thousands of samples of both soap bar and squidgy, as sold on the south of england and rarely been able to find one tricome 99.99% is something else. Blackout I don’t know what the soap is like in Eire so I can’t say about that. I’m sorry but the soap and squidgy sold here are not hash. I have looked at many hundreds of samples of Moroccan, from slate to top grade stuff. High grade maroc is very very good indeed with a unique smell, taste and high and its naturally light blond in colour. Its unmistakable.

i have been told its better here in ireland, but maybe im just lucky. i know i guy who worked on the ferries and the english crew all bought their stuff over here even though it was more expensive. i have seen some shite that friends of friends have got though. i used to get a lot from some fairly big dealers who were shifting a few kilos a week. quality was of the upmost importance to them, they were hardmen in it for the money but they had reputations to uphold and personally tested every batch for quality and did refuse a lot. maybe the dealing culture is different here, if a dealer trys to offload shit everybody knows about it and he is fucked for customers for months. i have never heard of any dealers making there own here, thats not to say it doesnt go on though. most stories are about dealers lumbered with crap, some offering it for 200 euro a kilo. it is very hard to get decent grass here though. most soapbar hash i get here is far superior to the imported hash in amsterdam, of course it doesnt compare to say bubblehash from the bush doctors.

BTW how did you know im in ireland??