Allways use greenhouse seeds and had no problems no hermies and a good germ rate and for there price you carn't argue but a lot a people seem to complain about them give me your views

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...78&hl=arjan

Nuff said

Owd

Some right harsh words there about him think i'll stay clear of Gh seeds for the fact he's a wank

Arjan + his side kick are a pair of tosspots!, i second that,but the success i had with sum fem white rhino's was great and i couldn't care less who owns the gaff as long as my product does what its spose to!The guy's at gh can do the conga in there grow rooms for all i care as long as the seeds i get from there play ball!BAD GUYS,GOOD SEEDS?

Bad breader... good thief...

Great this debate again It's his off the wall claims that irritate the hell out of me and his self proclaimed "king of cannabis" title. I got a pack of 10 of "his" white widow strain which apparently he created. 1 popped after a day and one more about a week later. I had 10 DP power plant germinating at the same time - 10 out of ten. The plant itself was nothing like what it said on the tin and yielded poorly. That was my first and last time buying from GHS.

But thats just my experience, doesn't mean some people won't get good results. Theres bound to be some good seeds amongst all his crap. Might be worth taking a look at BTS Productions grow he did. 50 Feminised Great White Shark - tested the 100% no hemies claims

NT

Ive only grown one plant so far from GHS, it was a fem white rhino; i had no problems infact she was a lovely lil lady, and the smoke is somewhat beautiful! i only planted one and got a female.. maby i was jus lucky, but i have got another one currently jus popped outa the soil couple days ago.

Still, heard so much bad things bout arjan though, he shud go in to music or summin cos there is a good saying that good musicians steal, bad ones borrow

Sticky!

o'crap just bought 10 fem cheese off him, well the greenhouse co.
i was hopeing on some good results,but reading this thread has realy put me on a downer now.
gonna start a few at a time under just 40watts of light 24 hours.
going to transplant to their pots after 4 weeks,then weather them for 2 week.
then force them into flower by taking indoors at night for 12 hours.

if i get every thing right ph,feeds ect & we have a nice summer i was hoping at least 5 oz's of dried bud per plant .
what do u expert growers on this forum reckon.

shame was very interested in his 'original white widow' and cheese / hawian snow, super silver haze and lemon skunk
a no no then ?

i think there not bad for the cash . done church and have got el nino and cheese ready in about a week they look great no herm in any of them
gem big bang to replace them a few week ago and all germ fine

Arjans original white widdow LMFAO....Shanti has the originals here mate
at best Arjans would be F2's

people used to say the same about hydrotops ferts, that they were fake and that people should steer clear.
turned out to be a lie,people had great success with it.

its a dog buisness is seedbreeding, hydroponics etc,theyll stop at nothing to put new breeders/suppliers out of business imo

Madgiz beat me to it. Try Black widow from Shantibaba

Trying to take credit from shanti and neville for creating some of the best strains ever and then selling seeds that aren't the original is just so low in many ways. Super silver haze, white rhino etc are all sold by mr nice seed bank where the original breeders of these strains now work and still using the same parents. Names are diff but this is the only place to reliably get these true originals.

the original white widow was made by shantibaba from Mr nice seeds along with a lot of the other stuff he clams to be his own creation, but shantibaba breed a lot of them and Green house seeds take the credit for it because shantibaba worked for them at the time.

I wouldn't buy greenhouse seeds but that doesn't mean you won't get nice buds from their seeds I'm sure lots of people do but they have released some bunk strains like doctor which people wasted a lot of time growing out.

I can 2nd that. Got three at the moment as was given them for free (wonder why??) and they dont look that great at all.

my mate had ten lemon and ten church germ them the same as others and all church did f all went to mush and 1 lemon took bag of shit green house seed are big up the budda blue cheese all the way

i wont buy them again. fem prices attracted me so they served a purpose this time round and thus far they havent hermed. wonder what it will yeild/smoke like. 5/6 weeks until i find out.

I got the AMS Strain from Greenhouse seeds, only started growing so I've no idea how they will turn out as it seems very few have purchased AMS... possibly a new strain.

If anyone has got the AMS Greenhouse seeds... would love to hear what you thought! Maybe I should have went for a popular seed on my first grow

shame, just bought himalyian gold and it seems like the lick, well seen find out

hi all.

wish i had seen the arjan thread before purchasing some greenhouse "cheese" femisied seeds.

greenhouse seeds gaurentee 100% female & 100% germination or they will replace the seeds.

ive always bought nirvana in the past & never had a problem.

anyways these cheese seeds only 6 outta 10 germinated.. n they cost me 45 quid from a headshop. not quite 100% germination eh!

anyways ive emailed greenhouse seeds a few times now and have not had a reply..

think i agree with everyone else. greenhouse seeds are shite n that blokes a knob.

on another subject. recently i bought some mr nice spice seeds & not one germinated.. i emailed shantbaba as suggested by UK420 peeps & within a week the repacement seeds were in my mates doormat.. thats what i call customer service-TAKE NOTE GREENHOUSE SEEDS YOU TOSSERS

peace to everyone else

bit of a different one but dont shanti,or did he grace our pages at one point with threads...replys to folks questions???...where is he now?

ive used GHS on many of occassions ive had a few batches not pop up but greenhouse sent out replacements which were all fine so i cant complain personally i have no problems with them and think their strains grow to the traits they say they do and are always 100% female i had some real nice white rhino from them and some good cheese and trainwreck check out my bud pics to see the results
i would reccomend them unless u live in the states as they wont send replacement seeds to the states if the first lot dont pop otherwise if you get problems with the seeds you should always contact the breeder as they usually send out replacements ive only had this problem with greenhouse twice and got replacements on both i, usually use a greenhouse strain every grow i do so use them often

so why is de shaaman claiming he was the creator of white widow?
he sells a registered name version. is shanti an opportunist, too. or the victim of a fraud?
thought I'd add some balance to the white widow stuff being written.
i don't have answers....just like to know 'em

green house seeds are the creator of white widow true, but it was shanti who was the breeder behind it when he worked for GHS at the time, but they take credit for it. if i was going to buy any seeds it would be from shanti the bloke is a top breeder and he is sound as f*ck, i could not find his "critical mass" seeds any ware and p.m'ed him on his forum he got back to me in a day or so and said he could personally send me some. i did not go though with it because of the risk of customs finding them, its a shame because the yield from those plants if grown well will be massive. i have grown shanti's seeds before and have always found a keeper out of a batch unlike other seed banks that just breed for mass production of seeds, shanti selects the best of the best of his plants and just sells seeds from the offspring resulting in fast/ strong/ heavy yielding strong as f**k smoking plants. i have never found a plant that as come close to one of his Early Queens i grew a few years back, SOG 36 plants psqm under 600w nft = 750g of greasy rock solid bud.

Hi all. Ive not got a lot to say about GHS, never grown them before, Untill now.
I germed 10 of there Cheese and guess what they all broke threw the compost in under 48 hours.
All I can say is Fxck me there coming on like a house on fire.
There at 5 weeks, 35 days into flower. They've still got another 4 weeks to go.
They look like they have about 2 oz on each at the moment. One thinks theres going to be a good harvest coming.
Well see for yourself.......... The picks......... Check out how frostie they are, realy oily.
Peace out HH.

Here mate

thanks for the info, but i knew shanti worked for gh. i was more interested in how (correctly spelt now!) de sjamaan was involved. i quote:
'One of the most infamous and renowned breeds in the world of Cannabis, White Widow has claimed victory in many of the top Cannabis Cup competitions for De Sjamaan cannabis seeds ever since it was placed 1st in the High Times Cannabis Cup Bio Category in 1995.'
he can use the real name, whereas shanti uses the name black widow. Why would the creator not use it's real name? i think i need to investigate...

why dont you ask shanti your self over at is forum mrnice.nl

Black Widow
A most infamous strain that since 1994 has won a number of awards, including the High Times Cannabis Cup in 1995, and has acquired acclaim from most corners of the globe - rightly so. It has a pedigree of parentage that combines a Brazilian Sativa with a South Indian hybrid. Basically, it is the original parents of White Widow changing its colors like its company. Indoors 10 weeks of flowering will be necessary to realize the immense resin production. In the northern hemisphere expect harvest around September/October, having planted as late as June. However, there is a chance that rain could reduce the expected yield. A highly recommended strain for amateur breeders - the male being preferable.

Heritage: Black Widow
Family of breed: Brazilian sativa x South Indian Indica
Breeder: Shantibaba's
Preferred medium: Bio and Hydro, Indoors and outdoors/greenhouse
Expected yield: Indoors 350/450g/m2, G/h and outdoors 300/400 g/plant
Flowering period: Indoor flowering time expect approximately 8-10 weeks. Harvest date in the northern hemisphere should be by the end of Sept to the beginning of Oct and in the southern hemisphere end of March to April.
Recommendations: For the inexperienced grower to the most advanced grower…but it is all in selection.
Special Notes: Numerous growers world wide who know how to grow will have at some time or other had this plant on their grow list. The plant is vigorous and well scented not to mention it frosts up the last weeks of the flowering cycle. Highly recommended

Wow, lots of hate for Arjan I see,

I try not to waste time on getting that pissed off about anyone, life's too short!!!!
I would suggest grabing a lighter, having a big toke on that peace pipe and maybe even a chill pill

Im curretnly growing Lemon Skunk and The Church from Greenhouse seeds (Fem Seeds). 6 out of 6 germinated, 6 out of 6 are now 5 weeks into flower, all females and no signs of hermi's, and a really nice aroma coming from the buds, each seed worked out at approx £3 each which compared to others is really cheap! As far as the seed quality so far I have nothing whatsoever to complain about, dare I say it.......Im really happy with Greenhouse seeds!

When I look at some other seed banks and see packs of 5 seeds for £50+ I start to wonder about other folks ethics and whether they are purely into this business for the money too! But to be honest I dont really care that much, I want nice bud for low £'s with minimum effort.

just put 5 super silver haze in to germinate and hoping for good things , tried the nr nice version a year or so back and not sure whether i had a dud pack but failed to get any to germinate .

all hate aside , any good ?

ukgg

some people dont mind buying a stereo they know has been stolen from a friend of a friend, as long as it plays music... takes all sorts to make a world go round...

personally i wouldn't touch greenhouse seeds with a shitty stick. would make the shit seem dirty.

One of my mates grew that and it was dynamite.
Good things are coming dude .

good good .

cheers