djay
Mar 5 2008, 09:31 AM
Hi and thanks to Kaiki for these beans , sorry its taken so long to get round to trying them out had various life issues that just couldn't come second...
Anyway here are a few photo's started 2 from seed they were germed over 6 weeks ago now , both germed no problem although they had a shakey start due to me using some canna terra seedling compost which all of the plants growing hated.
The destroyer seeds are the left hand side near front and right hand side near front.
These are the plants under 400 watt of envirolight after 2.5 weeks as you can see growth in this shit compost was how can i say erm shit....
djay
Mar 5 2008, 09:37 AM
And here are the 2 Destroyer fem's 14 days later , they are repotted into 3.5ltr pots using biobizz allmix and a little root juice , slight yellowing of some of the plants as there due to be repotted again.
Also the 2 destroyer plants really seem to freak out with even the smallest amount of Nitrogen even the stuff all ready in the allmix , they also seem to like it a little more humid in the veg chamber where as my others strains didn't mind the low humidity which was around 15/20%.
They were under 400watt of hps as i had no mh bulb due to the shop not having stock of 7000kelvin Mh bulbs in.
Temps 25c lights on 17-19c lights off.
The destroyers are bottom left and top left of the picture.
djay
Mar 5 2008, 09:48 AM
Here they are 3 days later so around 5 weeks into veg now under 400watt of 7000k sunmaster mh bulb , they have been repotted into there final pots which are 6.5 ltr and 11ltr using biobizz allmix , they have still been fed nothing other than water rootjuice and a little bioheaven.
Destroyer 1 is middle back and destroyer 2 is far right , all though im not 100% on the second pheno of destroyer as when i repotted i forgot to put the dam labels back on the pots
So you gonna have to bear with me on this one as time will show the difference btwn them all.
In there we have 2 CannaBiogen destroyer's , 2 Grapefruit x Maroc and 2 Grapefruit x Nevilles Haze.
So the Destroyer's should be alot more visable once there starting to flower , both the destroyer and the grapefruit x nevilles haze should go for a min of 10 week's and i will pull the 2 grapefruit x maroc out at around 8-9 weeks , that way the last 4 should have 400 watt of hps all for themselves for the end 2-5 weeks of flower.
djay
Mar 5 2008, 09:51 AM
Here they are and looking all the better for being repotted and also for being under such a high kelvin metal halide , really is amazing how fast repotting and a new lamp make things grow this shot is taken 3 days later than the last shot.
djay
Mar 5 2008, 09:53 AM
Woops forgot a group shot of them under 400watt hps in 3.5ltr pots , not v interesting but still helps you gage the speed these grow at.
Shot was taken around week 4 of veg , light regime was 20/4.
djay
Mar 5 2008, 10:01 AM
And here is a shot of them at a tad over 6 weeks of veg and in there first day of flower , all plants have shown sex and all are girl's

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The tallest before i flipped into 12/12 was 18inch to the topsoil of the pot and i have around 6 foot of height before they have to be tied down a little.
Hopefully as i am using a metal halide for the first 2 weeks of flower this will stop the stretch as much.
These are all grown in a 1mtr X 1mtr X 2mtr Homebox with 2x 125mm a1 rvk fans and a phat filter to stop the smell.
The plants are starting to smell quite a bit now even in veg , although the destroyer smell is only faint the rest come from the stinking grapefruit x nevs haze.....
Destroyer pheno 1 is at the far right back , and pheno 2 is in the front middle of the picture
felix_dzerjinski
Mar 5 2008, 10:34 AM
Nice plants djay these have been on my list for a while. Perhaps next season.
Your 7200k lamp should make a difference to the growth and nodal spacings, will be interesting to see how they go.
Nice one
djay
Mar 5 2008, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(felix_dzerjinski @ Mar 5 2008, 10:34 AM)

Nice plants djay these have been on my list for a while. Perhaps next season.
Your 7200k lamp should make a difference to the growth and nodal spacings, will be interesting to see how they go.
Nice one
Yeah hopefully man , as i said i dont mind a little stretch but 5ft is a max i have for space , lets hope they turn out to be nice as i have another 3 seeds here and some biddy early and biddy's sister for test grow's as well...
Thnx for popping by.
bazza82
Mar 5 2008, 12:14 PM
Great looking plants Djay

, i started a thread a while back trying to decide between Thaitanic and Destroyer to grow, watching with interest mate as i was so close to ordering this strain, may try it out sometime this year, i used the MH until the start of flowering as well (until day 8 of 12/12) and it really has helped controlling the stretch, so much so i'm gonna do it every grow but instead of just for the first week of flowering i'm gonna do it like you mentioned - first 2 weeks of flowering

, peace, Baz
djay
Mar 5 2008, 12:58 PM
QUOTE(bazza82 @ Mar 5 2008, 12:14 PM)

Great looking plants Djay

, i started a thread a while back trying to decide between Thaitanic and Destroyer to grow, watching with interest mate as i was so close to ordering this strain, may try it out sometime this year, i used the MH until the start of flowering as well (until day 8 of 12/12) and it really has helped controlling the stretch, so much so i'm gonna do it every grow but instead of just for the first week of flowering i'm gonna do it like you mentioned - first 2 weeks of flowering

, peace, Baz

Thanks for that man , yeah after seeing the pictures of destroyer it kinda got me all hot n bothered

and i was lucky enough to get these before christmas but as i said couldn't do anything with em till now.
Using the mh for 2 weeks of flower was on another thread cant rmbr which one and even if it stops the stretch by 6-12inch that'll be enough for me , got enough yo-yo's ready to tie everything allover the place

After 2 weeks all being well i'll fire up the hps and hit the super lume switch so they should have around 430watt of hps and then swap it back to mh for the last few weeks of flower as it apparently increases the psycho activity of the plant (not sure if its true again was posted on here a few times)
Anyway stay tuned ill pop by time to time and update the pics as they grow.
djay
Mar 8 2008, 05:42 PM
Destroyer Pheno 1 female is around 1 week into flower , she was 18inch before going 12/12 and now is 29inch tall from the top of the pot.
Bud sites are starting.
djay
Mar 8 2008, 05:44 PM
Destroyer female pheno 2 , she is slightly smaller with tighter internodes around 25inch tall from top of the pot.
Will keep the Mh on them for another 2 weeks then swap to hps.
djay
Mar 8 2008, 05:46 PM
Group shot in the my other strains
djay
Mar 8 2008, 05:47 PM
Last picture kinda shows how blue 7200kelving lamps are
djay
Mar 17 2008, 10:52 PM
Pictures 14 days 12/12 just before they were given a feed of 2mil bloom 1 mil grow 4 mil topmax and 3 mil of bioheaven per 2ltr.
Destroyer's are the far left and front left , smaller one is in a 6.5ltr pot larger is in a 11ltr pot.
The plant in the 11ltr pot is over 4.5 foot tall now and still stretching , the smaller 6.5ltr pot is 38inch tall.
djay
Mar 17 2008, 10:56 PM
Here is a forming top cola shot of the larger plant , i have had to bend her over

as i only have around another 1 foot to play with and alos to even the canopy height a little , there all still under 400watt of 72k metal halide although being a sat i dont thinks its making much difference ...
In fact these baby's are dwarfing my grapefruit x neviles haze and grapefruit x maroc which usually grow 4-5 foot tall untrained.
djay
Mar 17 2008, 11:01 PM
One more group shot a little closer , again both destroyer's on the left front and back..
I think if you want these in 11ltr pots and veg for 6weeks+ you are really going to need 5-6 foot of growing height if untopped and untrained.. hopefully the stretch will start to slow in the next week or so i do say hopefully
I am still tempted to flip on the hps but i am just a tad scared they will take off again and stretch even more than they are.
Have to say i love those really satavia long thin leaves , you can really see the difference of a more pure sat to the other hybrids in there with em.
bazza82
Mar 18 2008, 11:03 AM
Looking great Djay

, the fan leaf blades look huge on this strain, remembers me of a sativa pheno of Bubblegum i done a couple of grows ago, they were massive as well, looking forward to watching these over the next few weeks, Baz
felix_dzerjinski
Mar 18 2008, 01:06 PM
Hi djay,
I agree those long thin Sativa leaves really do like nice, what a proper leaf of weed should look like but the height is scary man
djay
Mar 18 2008, 03:08 PM
QUOTE(bazza82 @ Mar 18 2008, 11:03 AM)

Looking great Djay

, the fan leaf blades look huge on this strain, remembers me of a sativa pheno of Bubblegum i done a couple of grows ago, they were massive as well, looking forward to watching these over the next few weeks, Baz

Thnx for lookin in bazza , i got a fair while to go with these btw 8-12 weeks maybe a bit more to finish flowering then i can get em dried and start curing and get ready for my other test which is what you have going now yourself
djay
Mar 18 2008, 03:12 PM
QUOTE(felix_dzerjinski @ Mar 18 2008, 01:06 PM)

Hi djay,
I agree those long thin Sativa leaves really do like nice, what a proper leaf of weed should look like but the height is scary man
Man indeed i love these huge sat leaves will measure one when there at there prime i aint seen anything leaf wise as big for ages ... As for height yeah i reckon so far if height is an issue buy you would like to grow these then deff a 6.5ltr pot would seem the way to go.
So looking forward to these 2 and they really should pull on alot more weight once the grapefruit x maroc come out of there around week 8 then ill only have 4 plants under 432watt of hps o//.
felix_dzerjinski
Mar 18 2008, 03:30 PM
Sound advice indeed, thanks djay
djay
Mar 29 2008, 06:05 PM
Day 25 of 12/12 the stretch seems to being slowing to a stop now , tallest pheno in 11ltr pot is over 6foot tall and is now bending over and tied back a lot.
Smaller pheno is around 4.5ft in 6.5ltr pot both are frosting up quite nicely.
This is the 6ft plus destroyer girl bent over lots of crystals all over already/
djay
Mar 29 2008, 06:09 PM
She seems to have a lemon citrus sorta smell , but its so hard as there are a few strong smelling plant's in there with her.
Group shot , the 2 plants in the background are grapefruit x nevilles haze and are around 5 foot tall so you can sorta see why this destroyer female needs to be bent and lst.
Feed wise there on 2mil biogrow and 4mil bio bloom , 4 mil topmax and 3 mil bioheaven per 2 ltr of water and are fed usually every 4-5 days.
Slight leaf problems were caused by having a oscillating fan blowing to hard and to close to the large fan leaves
djay
Mar 29 2008, 06:10 PM
Here is a picture of the tophalf of that plant 7 days ago.
djay
Mar 29 2008, 06:13 PM
Lower budshot.
Will get some photo's of the smaller pheno soon
bazza82
Mar 31 2008, 11:30 AM
Looking great Djay

, just imagine how tall they would of been if you never used the MH through the start of flowering

, it looks like they're gonna be good yeilders as well

, this should be a special smoke at the end man, Baz
djay
Apr 3 2008, 04:43 PM
Here is a picture of pheno 2 of destoyer , growing very slow with some rather weird leaves on the top 3 leaf not 5 .. looks like this one will take a while to finish.
djay
Apr 3 2008, 04:45 PM
And a closer shot , tbh i think i got my grapefruit x maroc mixed up with these as they both are very satavia and both have huge thin leaves ..
No where near as much thc production on these compared to the gfxmrc and a lot less mass .... thats what happens when you repot and forget to put the bloody label's back on
the.emulsifier
Apr 4 2008, 04:55 PM
lovely to see you can buy decent pure sat, especially from uk420. hope youve got a nice load to keep you going till these are done. Good luck
djay
Apr 4 2008, 07:35 PM
QUOTE(the.emulsifier @ Apr 4 2008, 05:55 PM)

lovely to see you can buy decent pure sat, especially from uk420. hope youve got a nice load to keep you going till these are done. Good luck
If only man aint had a thing for over 2 months

.....
Thanks for coming by.
felix_dzerjinski
Apr 6 2008, 08:43 AM
Gods Holy Trousrs djay they really have come on in there, it's looking like a jungle in there. Fantastic man, they really do look exotic
djay
Apr 6 2008, 10:19 AM

thnx felix yeah its how can i say hectic in there , and that pheno with like 1 leaf and 3 leaves out the top is kinda mental bt has loads and loads of budsites on there and now there starting to frost up but i reckon as i said it'll be a 11-14 week version for that.
On the other hand my grapefruit x maroc very sat influenced as well should be done in around 8-10 weeks so i should have a lil to smoke by then , the smell when you open the tent is unreal , off the destroyers its kinda lemony and the grape x maroc is like a sweet hash smell very tasty and not forgetting the 2 grapefruit x nevilles haze in the background there well very hazey smelling fuck its like a sweet shop when the tent is open wide

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I bought a heat spreader for the lamp the other day as i was getting a little light bleaching on one of the buds nearest the light and i have no more headroom left and can't bend the plant anymore.
Seriously i thought these destroyers stretched but 1 grapefruit maroc pheno is over 6 foot tall on here own , and 1 branch alone is 3.5 foot !!!!! guess my yo-yo's will come in handy
djay
Apr 7 2008, 12:24 PM
update 1 plant not doing well , checking calyx's today and found some rather large ones thinking they had just swelled up i took a closer look and there was seeds inside the odd one hence i guess no putting on weight

So it has been culled , i checked through the rest of the grow and not a seed/ballsack in sight so i dunno maybe this one got stressed in some way who knows.
Few pic's i took before giving it the chop.
See the swollen calyx inside there is immature seed.
djay
Apr 7 2008, 12:25 PM
Maybe this is a better shot.
djay
Apr 7 2008, 12:27 PM
Slightly gutted about it but then it was a test grow so anything is possible , no light leeks stable temps but i should of known by how slow it was growing compared to the other more bushier pheno which has a lot more bud on there than that.
As you can see this plant is tall and was around 5.5 foot tall in fact.
felix_dzerjinski
Apr 7 2008, 01:19 PM
Gutted for you djay

do you reckon that plant was putting all it's energies into seed production rather than making more buds ?
How's the heat spreader working out ?
djay
Apr 7 2008, 01:43 PM
QUOTE(felix_dzerjinski @ Apr 7 2008, 02:19 PM)

Gutted for you djay

do you reckon that plant was putting all it's energies into seed production rather than making more buds ?
How's the heat spreader working out ?
Yeah seems so man it was growing loads of pistols out of the calyx beside the branches which kinda there me a while ago , and also had 3 leaves or just 1 leaf each side near the top cola... so maybe this was just a little bit of a mutant and for it not to start to fatten up would really mean it was going into seed mode rather than budmode.
As for the heat spreader well it seems to help loads, you can keep your hand right under the bulb and not really feel a thing which is nice , i also moved a bud from the grapefruit x maroc over a little as it was starting to bleach the top few leaves on there but all seems fine now just wish id bought one before

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Will post some pictures of this second pheno of destroyer again tomorrow after i have watered em all.
Btw the plant i culled had a lovely lemon smell to it and my fingers were so sticky from touching what bud sites it had i really hope the other goes on and does well , then i can plant the other 3 seeds i have left and grow those out with some biddy early and biddy's sister
felix_dzerjinski
Apr 7 2008, 02:13 PM
Sounds like the one remaining should be awesome if that's anything to go by

Those light spreaders really do the job when you've got a plant right underneath the lamp, I've also found them very useful when I have a uniform canopy height and need the reflector down low.
Looking forward to the pics
djay
Apr 8 2008, 08:45 PM
Here is the second pheno much bushier , this is the top cola starting to form.
djay
Apr 8 2008, 08:49 PM
And a group shot left is a grapefruit x maroc , center is canna biogen's destroyer and in the background is a grapefruit x nevilles haze which is another 10+week plant but is putting a lot more weight on than the destroyer so far.
djay
Apr 11 2008, 12:42 PM
Starting to frost up a little more now on my one remaining destroyer , this grows a lot slower than anything else in the tent but she is getting there.
bazza82
Apr 11 2008, 12:52 PM
Nice colas Djay

, it's looking like this strain is gonna give out a great yeild as well
peace
Baz
felix_dzerjinski
Apr 11 2008, 02:06 PM
How many more weeks do you think she's going to go djay ? It'll be well worth it once you get there I'm sure.
djay
Apr 11 2008, 05:30 PM
QUOTE(bazza82 @ Apr 11 2008, 01:52 PM)

Nice colas Djay

, it's looking like this strain is gonna give out a great yeild as well
peace
Baz

Hope so man although they say 200-300grm per sqr mtr which ain't v much but if the potency is there thats all that counts
djay
Apr 11 2008, 05:32 PM
QUOTE(felix_dzerjinski @ Apr 11 2008, 03:06 PM)

How many more weeks do you think she's going to go djay ? It'll be well worth it once you get there I'm sure.
As a guess id say at least another 5-7 weeks which would take it up to 12 weeks of flower just a case of watching and waiting.
djay
Apr 17 2008, 11:29 AM
Update day 43 or 45 of flower and she is starting to put weight on , kinda lemon/petrol smell off her when rubbed ...
djay
Apr 17 2008, 11:30 AM
a lower budsite forming nicely
djay
Apr 17 2008, 11:31 AM
Little close to the main cola , still a long way to go me thinks.
djay
Apr 23 2008, 10:01 PM
Just over 7 weeks into flower odd budsite
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