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Green Goblin
Hi TILT,

Another master peice I see.

How many times did you screed the Trichomes and Co from this batch.
On the 4th picture up, what is that at the tip of the knife, is it sediment, coz it looks like a sea spongebob square pants type thingy, but I beleive you said it was a top notch chong in a nicely built spliffda, good on TILT, I'm sorry but I have to say, I bet there are a lot of guy's out there that use the BB's and have been throwing the water down the drain after 1 or 2 cycles through the BB's. If they read what you have been getting from what they normally throw away, I think they will be sick man, because I tell you now, I certainly would be, especially if I had nowt to smoke and was having to wait weeks before my next harvest, to right I would be sick as a pig to put it bluntly.

That spongebob material looks very familiar, but I can't remember what it is that reminds me of it. I don't think it is a canna plant though because I have not done water extraction yet.

That ash under spongebob looks really damed nice TILT, the same texture all the way through.
I don't think you could improve on that peice much more than you already have done, I would think that you could not take water extraction much further and get a lot better quality than you are right now, but I bet you will try.

Bravo,
GG
DougalTheDingo
lol.gif.. i can just see you opening up a coffee shop in holland and doing this stuff there.. and me at the door "can i have a job please"

I'm glad i read this before my first grow because i can only imagine the stream of swearing and head hitting wall noises that I would emit had i realised I was throwing away a large proportion of the finished product.. hehe rofl.gif

EDIT: be careful offering me to be your minion, you might just get me turned up on your doorstep one day lol.gif
TILT!
QUOTE(Green Goblin @ Apr 21 2008, 04:48 AM) *
On the 4th picture up, what is that at the tip of the knife, is it sediment, coz it looks like a sea spongebob square pants type thingy.....

.... I don't think you could improve on that peice much more than you already have done...


Hey GG,
took me a while to work out what you meant, but it's one of the angel dust flakes I'm holding up to the light. Or rather it's a mixture of very fine resin and other plant matter with an unknown quantity/ratio of angel dust/terpenes hosts. I gained this one from the frothy scum that comes up when the water starts to boil. If you're quick you can get some of it as powder before it froths up. It's quite easy to skim off. Boiling up the cloudy refuse water from the ice extraction is just one of the ways I'm been using to get at the terpenes, and it takes a bit of getting used to, but provides quite a lot of powder and flakes especially from the top bit of the refuse water. Then boiling it down provides me with another extraction or rather extract, shown here on the right:

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This is what I got from boiling down about half a gallon of refuse water after I'd had all easily available resin out of it. A thick black oily very sticky treacle. Smells very sweet and is instead very salt to the taste (maybe from the mineral water I used). Will dry very slowly and then finally to rock hard if I don't use it first (I have done biggrin.gif ) for something really naughty. You can then heat it to powder it into joints. I half expected it to be an acrid clorophyll taste but no no no, it's really very good too. It's not the angel dust but something else that is very aromatic indeed and obviously contains aromatic phenols and terpenes. It's very resinous, but in a hard gluey way. It's also anti-inflammable which I find particularly strange. I tried smoking a little sausage of it:
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here in with a few flaky bits and tobacco. Just wanted to see if they had any effect on their own. But the sausage, whilst obviously creating a lot of flavour (explosively potent smoke) didn't actually burn but remained exactly as it was and eventually fell out of the ash, which stayed easily on a single paper jay right to the end of the spliff. Fascinating but don't ask me to explain any of it biggrin.gif

Been reading up on a bit of cannabis chemistry which I find unbelievably difficult to understand. It seems that quite a few single chemical substances in the plant have an aromatic "ring" in their chemical structure, including various phenols and terpenes and some cannaboids. So basically I guess with my boiling down to this oily treacle actually looks and smells quite like molasses) I've just managed to trap enough of one or more of these in there to get a strong perfume.

I'm trapping a lot of perfume and I haven't smoked a normal joint in a week. I'm also getting the very very very last trichs out with various techniques. The two substances above are full of real goodies, responsible for perfume, potency boost and psychoactive "mix". Even my best hash on its own seems dull and bland in comparison, in every way. The light yellow one is not a powder skim off but the very last sediment with some very light resin, heavier powder particles which have sunk onto it and other powder floating or suspended. This next photo shows us a few things:

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Look at the line of silt below the water level but obviously floating/suspended. Reminds me of algi in sea water doh.gif Anyway, I drained this eventually by putting pin pricks in at the sides a bit above the sediment. I wanted to get the silt to settle on the sediment and I think it worked quite well. I'll try a bit of the hash, just a mo cool.gif smoke.gif
croc
TILT!
Here it is, no. 7 of this batch:
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Bit pathetic for all the work... only enough for a couple of doobies, and to be honest doesn't actually do that much for me. That's the first time the last hasn't been the best. I've obviously reached the limit.

But that black treacle has been very useful. I've also used that to spike some dry sift and various types of grass. It makes them gungy and then you can dry it and press it just like hash. It improves them all, some by a really long way. The terpenina (resinous dry sift with perfume spike) made with the treacle is even better in some ways than the original with the yellow terpenes juice, and gets to really look like hash. Here's some pics
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This is the oil soaked dry sift, a ball pressed in the hand in greaseproof paper and then one half ironed to press it into a sort of hash on the right. You can then heat this with a lighter and crumble it. I swear to the gods, the perfume off it when heated is twice if not thrice as strong as any bit of hash I ever smelled, and is really difficult to describe, more fitting to a cake shop than the cannabis plant, but very exotic smelling and simply.... good biggrin.gif Like a concentrated but matured and mellowed version of what invaded my house while I was boiling down the water, like honey or rather that which makes honey and almost sickly, but not any more now, just good, and a fantastic smoke, better than my no. 10 Downing St. hash, my no. 1, my number anything.

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Here from the top, all halved and one bit ironed to press and activate it, the oil soaked sift, the original terpenina with the angel dust water and below a gungy ball of fat Jack Herer bud with a mix of the oil and the angel urine. One better than the other and all very different.

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Here's a load of things drying away nicely above my fire, and some fortified grasses at the back. Some I keep gungy, some I let go hard in the midday sun, some with more oil, some with more angel urine, some pressed, some not... but they have one thing in common.. they are all good good good yahoo.gif And so amazingly different. Especially the angelpiss seems to bring out some weird things in the original product. grass or whatever, flavours and also effects are enhanced and, well, the best word is fortified, like barley wine versus beer, or sherry versus wine. Just like that.

In the pic on the left in the middle there the rest of the treacle drying slowly and the no. 7 hash. I wonder why that stuff didn't kick.... by my reckoning it must have a high angel dust concentration, but didn't even have a strong perfume when I smoked it just now. 34.gif I wonder if being in the water for so long (by that point about 4 to 5 days after mixing) washes out the perfume. And I did try smoking it pure, which I noticed before had little effect. Try again now with a bit of that Herer F (for Fortified from now on). Hope you people appreciate my staying up all night trying this stuff out for you rofl.gif

Croc flo gotiltgo


TILT!
Well I spiked the front of that Herer F jay with the no.7, and it did give a fuller flavour and a bit of an enhancement, but not enough to merit the work extracting it and I don't like think what's in it unsure.gif The Herer F itself though is Wam Bam Thank You Mame, a "real man's" smoke, enough to put hair on your chest and fire in your balls, but with a heart of green goodness:
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and immediately makes me hungry, so.....
BIAW
TILT!
I'm glad really that the no. 7 is shite, that there is at least a limit. I'll keep it for science biggrin.gif

It won't be the last one of this batch though, as I did a second run a day or so later as the grass refuse seemed quite resinous to me and threw the "fruit cake" I'd made out of the Olé refuse (really smelt like Auntie Jean's Best Fruit Cake after baking it slowly in the oven at about 110° C and even stuck together well as I put a load of weights on it while it was baking) for good measure.

This was Tilt's refuse, right.... shouldn't be anything left in it really, I hear you say.... 4 or 5 gm. I reckon, still drying. Better than a kick in the head biggrin.gif Get some pics up tomorrow maybe: it's looking like nice hash, light brown.

But this is my favorite today:
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Back, front and segment. Pearl, my bastard wonder-child, soaked in oil and a couple of drops of angelpee, whole buds.
Pearl is already first class, but like this, mmmm, this is stuff for Christmas.

Just have to try that one too smoke.gif

Flo
TILT!
Let's have Christmas, then! whistling.gif I can't wait that long. Actually almost smoked all that bit already. It's jsut lovely. Pearl itself is very very pongy, somewhere between pink grapefruit and bergamot. Had to try a new one today:

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It's always good to start with quality base material excl.gif biggrin.gif
This is the start of a big experiment, mixing the excellent recreational and medicinal qualities of my bastard Pearl with the fortification and further mellowing of an oil soak. I crumbled the weed up really fine, practically to individual budlettes, soaked it in oil and am pressing it between 2 plastic plates overnight. Just had a little peek.... looks fantastic, black at the bottom and green at the top. Going to be a nice one.

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Green Goblin
Hi TILT,

I have read the latest trials and tribulations of the TILT experiments, but I'm just to stoned and tired at the moment, will speak to you later.

GG
TILT!
Amazed you're still capable of focusing on the page, GG rofl.gif as whatever it is you're smoking seems to be getting you very spliff.gif Or you just haven't had anything for a while as then it always really gets you at first when you do. For the same reason I like to smoke a variety of different stuff more or less in rotation as I find that one developes a tolerance versus cannabis in general but also versus one strain or product. But if I think that what I get through easily in a night now would keep me in oblivion (like GG wink.gif ) for a week if I just stopped smoking for a week or so before, that does make quite an impression on me.

Anyways, now I certainly have enough products to keep up the diversity and get more stoned biggrin.gif
The rewards of this last Blueberry fatbud LITE hve been many and varied:

Over 8 days,
from 129 gm. raw material:

1. 12.4 gm. finest hash, in 9 types or grades, all virtually pure resin with just slight contamination of the first (sandy dust) and the last (slight chlorophyll greening plus household dust). Here the no. 8:Click to view attachment and in the makingClick to view attachment
Knocking 3 grams of solid sweet dream sleepy hash. It's really honking and tastes of....... grilled meat doh.gif Obviously the cannamix towards the last extractions tends towards CBD or CBN, I always forget which one, which the THC "degrades" to in a ripe overmature trich, which is what I think must be creating this indicative colouring on the edge of a small bit of drying no. 9b, (or rather the tiny dried-out and spent amber trichs that host the CBD/CBN.
Click to view attachment that's held towards the light, :not towards my red leather desk. Amazing colour, I think. The very last of the last.

The grades are all different, if equally good, this time, and if you smoked them in order one after the other you would note the cannaboid mix changing gradually as you went "down the line", though the taste and effects don't even really overlap but are just neighbours and already as different as night and day at a difference of 2 grades, e.g. no. 2 to no. 4. So one can imagine what diversity there is within the span of 9. With these different hashes, all from one plant, I can pick you up or pull you down, space you out, make you mellow, inspire you to creativity, make you giggle like Japanese schoolgirls, make you cough, soothe your throat, make you thirsty and/or hungry, energetic or rather relaxed, horny or even more so naughty.gif basically the entire spectrum of medical science biggrin.gif Seriously though, I think one can be so precise with this method as to be able to create fairly exactly a desired effect. More on that later.

2. Altogether about 50 gm. of various Terpeninas, some mixed with oil, some with angelpee and some with both. Although there's probably only 15 gm. resin in the whole batch together (Est. 6 gm. resin in the 12 gm. dry sift, 5 gm. from the oil and 5 gm. in the ca. 35 gm. bud used) this stuff pulls its weight. In many respects can rival all but the very best of the hashes I've been making. Full flavour, full effect. It's certainly won me over and I've noticed that I've been smoking almost nothing else since I invented it. For me smoking even purish hash all the time is too harsh and makes me too nervous and gives me sometimes a headache, and smoking grass all the time even with the best gear you get used to it and the effect. The Terpeninas suit me in every way and I'm already planning to turn my entire stash into hash and terpeninas. I tried so many different mixes out and all are good and some are very different, but I'll get back on that when I've finished the testing smoke.gif bloody hard work I tell you!

3. 5-10 gm./b] of [b]hash oil. Don't know what else to call it. It's a thick oil but creates a skin after drying for several days, though stays completely soft and sticky as hell. Here's the little bit of it that didn't go into mixing up Terpeninas and oil pressed weed:
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Click to view attachment working very quickly to avoid it sticking to the surface below you can roll it out real fine and form whatever you want.
I just tried it, a tiny bit rolled out very thinly with a bit of baccy: very nice, very tasty, big effect somewhere between hash and oil. So I'll definitely call it hash oil: good description biggrin.gif

It's what I got after boiling down about 7-8 lts. of run-off water from my sediments. I can't be more exact with the quantity as I used most of it direct to mix up some derivatives like the Black Terpenina (the Gold Terpenina being the one with just angelpee), but I tended to underestimate and it'll will have been more like 10 gms. The hash oil is very worth extracting: the derivatives I've made are all fantastic and have a lovely smell and taste and a good solid all round effect with some great hash tastes in there even though often only crushed buds soaked lightly in the hash oil. For instance the Jack Herer soaked in Blueberry hash oil has hash notes to it that are definitely not Blueberry and so probably are tastes that would come out in a Herer hash if and when I make it. And it also really livens up the bud's own perfume. Next time I want to try mixing it in hot.

I have a lot of ideas about this hash oil and how I came to extract something which is generally believed to be a) non existent in the ice waste water, and cool.gif in any case non-extractable. I think I will have to do a fair bit of research before I present those ideas. I'm having to guess too much still. Strange as it may seem, considering the fact that cannabis is probably trhe most researched plant on the planet, it seems really that my little journey has taken me onto fairly untrod ground, virgin territory so to speak. It does seem quite unbelievable to me that I might have managed to do something with my kitchen utensils which I haven't seen or heard of being done even in the highest tech labs. But I cannot deny the existence of that blob of hash oil, which is completely fluid and gluey and is really very potent, even on its own which the angeldust and angelpee isn't.

God knows what's all in that black glue. A few nasties I dare say. Salt. AnY chemicals in the water that will bind with the liquid resin. I can't taste anything that seems like chlorophyll. Unless that tastes like grilled meat biggrin.gif My eyesight and fingers tell me it's practically pure resin without even a trace of trich membrane. My taste and the intensity of the smoke tell me it's got a little bit of something else too, though not necessarily bad. I'll get some more pics up later or tomorrow and anyone feel free to chip their tuppenny (though don't quote me at length for a one-liner please!) 'cause it's definitely interesting, if maybe not sensational, historical, hysterical and the rest of the jamboree. Dead interesting!

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TILT!
More pics of the hash-oil:
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Here squashed out flat

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held up to the light

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if this was a bit lighter and purer it looks like it would eventually dry to something like real amber.

and here guitar.gif just for people that get excited by such things, just thumbhails so things don't get out of hand biggrin.gif , a heating progression of ca. 30 secs.:
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apart from slowly bubbling up all over and giving off little smoke considering the length of heating (42 secs to be precise) but the most incredible vapours.... or as much as I could discern whilst holding a redhot lighter and trying to take a good pic for yous all at the same time doh.gif this little blob didn't change much, just set rock hard to the blade of the razor:

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I powdered it with some difficuilty although it was just a shell. It smells of slightly overroasted sesame seeds. I smoked it for science and it was still quite well perfumed but not much effect I don't think.

My guess is that the hard shell was mainly the impurities which come to the top while the resin content is melting and the terpenes are forcing their way to the top to create all those little bubbles, which did seem to be what was principally giving off the vapours. But more than guess I cannot do, so if anyone else thinks they might know what is in this strange animal

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vince noir rock n roll star
well ,it seems we have a winner in the cannabis alchemy category ...awesome stuff tilt ..ill defo be trying some of your techniques when the harvest comes through later in the year ,,ive learnt so much from your informative thread ..and i thank you cool.gif
TILT!
Once again you're too kind, Vince me ol' fruit biggrin.gif Trouble is I'm maybe a "natural" physicist when it comes to cannabis, but actually no great shakes as a chemist. I have been trying to read and understand just some of this:Click to view attachment
Hope the author won't mind me posting that here.... guess not as it's been published openly online anyway.

If anyone here can come to grips with that and explain any finer points in more layman's language here, please do!

Sounds pretty groovy anyway: aromatic double bond rings all over the shop biggrin.gif

Thanks for posting and saying hello anyways. Gets a bit lonely round here sometimes. I mean, 5000+ visits in about 6 weeks and hardly anyone even says hello nea.gif 34.gif I have seen quite a few references to this thread elsewhere though in the meantime 34.gif , normally along the lines of "complete madman but producing good gear if you can understand a fuugin' word". And I started this thread for fellow idiots just to make a bit of good gear out of their trim. I just tried out a couple of things like one does in a live event and they had knock-on domino effects and before I knew it, here I am in the middle of a botanical detective story.

Mind you, trouble is, in all the reflective subjectives, the straight plain talking Tilt tips have to be searched for to be found. Maybe I could itemise them to make them easier to find. Every time I drop by to see if anyone's said hello I write a TILT's Tip of the Day. Now that's practicle biggrin.gif

Tilt's Tip of the Day No. 1

Has anyone noticed the sincere lack of "green" in all and any of the hash preparations on the last Blueberry run? , I did, but was expecting it as I tried out something reall simple to achieve it and it obviously worked. And that although I crumbled that bud up really fine, basically to individual budlettes, to expose the resin as much as poss.

It's so simple you'll think it can't work, bit it does. And you can then use tights very effectively to filter, even more effectively that any meshed screen. Tights are elastic. So right at the beginning before the ice run you do a more or less brief dry sift or shake through the tights tightened quite tautly: less should just get rid of all the small green and dirt/sand but then mixed with a fair bit of the finest resin (better then to do this bit before freezing the trim/bud), and more shaking will eventually give you a high resin ratio dry sift which can be further filtered or used like I did for the Terpeninas. You are losing a bit of resin that will not then be in the ice hash, but if you then use a mixing method like the drill that is very gentle on the green material, what didn't go through the stretched tights dry certainly won't go through the less stretched and doubled (gusset bit of the) tights with the icey water. So you can smash the stuff up as much as you like (very useful in particular for buds where lots of resin is "hidden") whilst remaining assured that the tights won't let the green through but will let the trichs through, all of them.
Still don't get it? Let's give it some hypothetical values. Say you grind the gear in your hands to an average 400 microns. Average means that you will have some larger and some smaller stuff in there, also some much smaller green stuff that you however really do not want in the bags or the sediment. Say an average trich is 50 microns. You stretch the tights to say 200 microns. Lightly shake through this and all the shit and green below 200 microns will go through, however lightly you shake to preserve the resin for the ice run. If the tights are then stretched only to 100 microns for filtering the ice mix and you haven't destroyed it more in the meantime, then stuff that didn't go through 200 microns certainly won't go through 100 microns and you shouldn't have any green at all in your resin, but all the resin is assured to come through. Simple as that: and it worked biggrin.gif

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TILT!
Wer suchet, der findet!
Very simple German phrase for "If you look for things, you'll find them".

It's true. I was at a beautiful beach today. Took the Terpeninas. Been having a bit of a rough neapolitan taxi ride with MaryGoesPoppins recently and fancied finding her something nice on the beach. Within 2 mins. I found these 2 stones
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Isn't Nature Wonderful?!

Then got home to my hashoil, which is becoming more and more like Bernstein amber. Completely stretchable and formable.
Almost regretting I used so much of it to make the Terpeninas and spike a load of grass. Just very interesting stuff: never ever had anything like that in my hands

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Funky dunky.... Later, spliff.gif !TILT! spliff.gif
DougalTheDingo
Tilt, bringing the power of the healer back into the hands of the common man rofl.gif

Nice, once again. keep popping back here to check up on your progress matey. Impressed as usual. Will download that pdf and have a quick shuftie through it & see if i can make head or tail of it.. Will also have to read this thread over from the start. Inspiring stuff, need to formulate my own plan as i appear to be making progress on my growdrobe project now cool.gif not long before i'm spliff.gif with my own 13.gif

Ta and keep up the good work.

D.
Green Goblin
Hi TILT,

Feeling quite wide a wake at the moment, need a few more spliffs. rolleyes.gif

In answer to your question: No I have not ran out, yet innocent.gif . I have not gone with out a daily smoke for many, many years. I might very rarely run out of my own before the next harvest and then have to score some to keep me going, but I cannot remember the last time I had absolutely nothing at all, I cannot even tell you how I would feel or react to not having any, it's been so long unsure.gif . I have been with my other half for 16 years and have never gone with out at least 4 spliffs a day whilst with the love of my life, come close but never with out. spliff.gif

At the moment I'm smoking white widow mixed with some lowryder2, coz the lr2 has a lower than average strength for my liking, but better than what you can buy from the street, but it is not strong enough for my liking, hence the reason I have mixed it with the ww. I was going to do a TILT extraction notworthy.gif type methodology but only 4 of the 6 have matured to date. The lowryder 2 has 2 totally seperate phenotypes, 1 which is a dwarf type pheno where the total hight of the plant was in between 7 and 9 inches tall for the 4 dwarfs. On the dwarf pheno the buds grew from an inch above the compost, right up the stalk to the top with no side branches at all only fan leaves, approximately a farmers daughter per plant and then there was the xmas tree type pheno which have grew to i6/17 inches each to date and have many more buds and many side branches. They do look similar, but if you are a novice it would be very easy to mistake them for 2 totally diferent strains and the xmas type pheno have been going for 9 weeks now and show no signs of stopping yet, all pistles are still white and there are more every day, should hopefully get about twin farmers daughters from each plant. So in the end will probably end up with about 2oz ohmy.gif for over 9 weeks work 49.gif and 6 plants, which obviously is not worth the bloody space I give them when I could have a plant there producing 3 to 5 ounces per plant, but at least I have tried them out, but never again I'm afraid. The finished amount will not even cover the electricity used to grow it. So I don't think it was worth the time and effort to do an ice extraction and will do it when my super silver haze, haze #1 and white widow when they have been harvested and cured. stoned.gif

Great looking stones you found at the beach. We have done a lot of camping over the years and where ever we go, we always end up taking home a oad of unusual stones and bits of wood for either garden features or trinkets for a round the house, but it is a pain to dust them all.

I think you have covered nearly every colour in the hash spectrum from the darker black type to your angel dust white to sandy transparent type of colour. I must be stoned to type a descrption like that, I can hardly understand it my self, rockin.

Where is the lovely Mary lately, I hope you have not got he chained up boiling down sedement for you in the cellar. wink.gif naughty.gif

Great piccies to. photo.gif
GG
TILT!

Thanks guys, for chipping in and showing a bit of support.

I'm thinking of jacking it in, though, not the experiments but the thread. Hardly anyone seems to be in the slightest bit interested. There are a lot of visits counted, 5 and a half thousand in a month and a half's not too bad, but I can only guess if any people any really understanding or profiting from my thread. Up until now it was ok to do it for myself, as I said I'm a showman and the live show incites me sometimes to inspirational improvisation, I thought, and hopefully from others too, caught up in the spur of the moment, getting the drill out of the cubboard and the trim out of the freezer.... but it didn't work out that way.
Here's another couple of pics of the hashoil and recent extractions to liven things up a bit:

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the original bit of hashoil, has got to the max of drying but is still sort of "liquid"

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off to get another bit to play about with... here a brew made out of freezing and then boiling up the bits of greaseproof paper I used for the "boats" for the last run. Basically the very very fine stuff which even enters into the fine structure of the greaseproof paper and cannot be scraped off with the razor. It did wash out in the boil and here is the result after being put back in the fridge for a night. Sediment at the bottom?... can't surely be trichs by now! We'll see.

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same sediment filtered off and staring to evaporate dry

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now let's see what we can get out of boiling up and down the rest of this angel piss... see the froth coming up atready?!

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here's skimmed off liberally into a plastic cup

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then using the patented TILT JAMJAR METHOD, overflowed into the plate below

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and really looking quite promising, yellowish froth

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which will now be quickly gained using the new patented TILT PINPRICK METHOD (details obtainable with stamped addressed envelope and £5 Premium Bonds or Green Shield stamps)

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and here's that hashoil again, after being put in the freezer for a while. More liquid rather than frozen hard: very strange!

More later if I'm feeling generous wink.gif
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vince noir rock n roll star
loving your alchemical talents tilt ...and may i say ...green shild stamps ...dude your showing your age rofl.gif my old man used to send me to the green shield stamp shop when i was about 5 to buy/exchange stamps for packets of embassy no 6 ..ahh the good old days ...keep up your performance squire its truly fascinating ,and come harvest time ill be putting your techniques into practise for sure ..you and grobag should publish a book on extraction techniques ..seriously
TILT!

Thanks Vince, me old fruit or also not so young fruit.... how do you like your grass? Well matured! How do you like your Cheddar? Well matured! How do you like your wine? Well matured! Shall I go on? It's not getting older that's a problem (and certainly one things for sure: we all do it!), it's maturing well wink.gif

But where all this supposed "alchemy" is, I dunno. I think bubble bags are more alchemistic: I mean, they're trying to reverse the laws of gravity rofl.gif My system, if I can be so presumptuous for a minute to call it that, has more to do with common sense than magic. I look at the material, I see how it reacts in a certain situation or environment and go into great detail because every confrontation with nature has shown me it pays to do that. It's less my knowledge of cannabis that has been expanded over the past couple of months than a consciousness of a wealth of unknown details within this fascinating plant and our co-existence with it.

It may sound a little weird or esoterical but I try to let myself be guided in what I'm doing by cannabis itself. I reckon the plant has a vested interest in some of what I'm discovering. We are co-dependent, so to speak. And I'm damn sure now, that cannabis isn't just a lucky freak of nature but does itself contain much magic and purposeful alchemy. My job is just to uncover it, to expose it. Not the alchemist but the alchemist's servant biggrin.gif

Thanks again however for your appreciation: it counts a lot to an old man like me rofl.gif And in years to come, when uk420 is kept alive just by the advertising on this thread alone biggrin.gif , you'll be able to say, look kids, I was there, and they'll go: "Cor blimey, grandad, f*ck a friggid fairy , did you know Tilt?" And you can say.... well sort of, I mean virtually, I mean, in those days before he'd perfected the production of the Angelpiss and the Godshit and sent it to the Pope to try and in consequence it had been blessed and all and been legalised everywhere except in the United Shapes of Arse where we once again banished all our religious weirdos..... Need I say more? Stick around, Vince, me anything other than untouched virgin fruit, and get your harvest going.... all it needs now to create an out-and-out revolution from my little discoveries here is for a few other good-natured and halfway intelligent stoners to try out what I've been doing. The first ones to go for it will make a whole heap of discoveries in their own right, mark my words. I've uncovered a deep deep pit of fun and games.

There are supposedly 200 odd cannaboids and similar in cannabis sativa, many of which don't even have a name, let alone be listed in a forbidden substance list. Whence this great obsession with just one of them, THC? It may be one of the loudest, and may constitute a great part of the possible total effect from cannabis, but most likely imho less on its own than in conjunction with even small and insignificant quantities of others. It's exactly that which makes good natural dry-gained hash from windowless rooms so good and so..... magic! biggrin.gif But believe me, now I know that even the Maroccan will have the THC etc. from this year's plants, but the angel dust mostly from last year's, as that's how long it takes for that stuff to settle. As I've managed to extract a bit fairly pure, I've also seen it fly now: very impressive biggrin.gif lost a fair bit through coughing, sneezing or just talking or moving about doh.gif

Been doing another experiment, this time with people. As I can't of course show photos of the people in the course of these experiments for privacy reasons, but want to liven this thread up a bit, and as a certain MaryGoesPoppins has been leaving self-taken photos on my PC in between my hash shots to distract me, I thought it might be useful to see one of those.... but..... not wanting to excite all these fellow old men too much, I've taken out some detail.

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This is the deal, you dirty old gits. Noone gets to ogle my gf's jewels for nought, right. For every grower here who does a run roughly on the lines I've shown here and comes back here to present their findings and results, I'll add a bit to that photo, on the lines "the better the results, the better the bit" naughty.gif If any Mss. out there are already offended by this cheap page 3 sexist lark, seeing as I've already been seriously un-PC today elsewhere on the site, I'd just like to say this was in fact Mary's idea. She said: "Tiltiwilty, mio bellissimo uomo noce, wai u tink nobudi cums on yor fread, jus borin foetoes of bis of godsshit, u nead goddesstits, no godsshit, okidoki?!" Should I, mere man, go against her born right to expose herself to whoever she likes and when she likes? whistling.gif

Anyways, she said all I've got to do is send a rosary Click to view attachment made of my little balls of godsshit to the Pope, and she'll deal with the rest..... 34.gif dunno about this lark, still smarting a bit from the not completely explained Castro encounter.

The People Experiment -- hehe, haha -- was a gas that's been. The experiment was this: my grass is really top notch, ripened in the best imaginable soil in the long mediterranean summer. It's great for me 'cause I'm an ex-alci and a hardened old diehard who likes to get well done as often as poss in this otherwise intolerable life, but it blows other people away, even old hippies and rockers. So you can imagine what it does to an innocent young flower naughty.gif like Mary. Whiteys galore! She even went off trying completely for a while after a difficult butter experience, but otherwise goes sublimely from one whitey to another. I've decided the undesirable side-effects (which a lot of people apart from Mary suffer from) comes from the high level of THC. Last night she had a few tokes of some (ca. 60% resin, hence THC high) terpenina mixed with a tiny rolll of that godsshit Click to view attachment (quite the rage with me at the moment: I'm hardly smoking anything else) and noted she had all the good effects she's wanting without any of the normal difficult bits. Said she felt light, without weight, without worry, just good. I must say, she was in a very good mood, in every sense naughty.gif Same thing this evening.

The People Experiment -- another friend, who smokes every now and again and says a bit of my cured Blueberry blows him clean away. Gave him this evening some of the liquid godshit soaked Pearl that I was preparing a while ago. Same reaction as Mary. Spaced but not blown, very good mood, sensing a really pleasant all round high without some side effects that he has just smoking the same grass on its own. As I see it, the addition of whatever's in the godshit (I don't really know yet exactly) seems less to add to but rather to change the effect of the THC in the grass. I feel it myself too, and I guess that's why I've smoked nothing else for a while, but can't base much on my reactions as I have such a high tolerance to various things. I've resorted to smoking test jays in the morning, something I never normally do, as it's my most sober point of the day and I can discern more subtleties in the effects. Terrible state of affairs smoke.gif headbang.gif what I go through for you guys? It's actually difficult to keep up with the testing as I've made so many varieties of the new products, and they're pretty much all different.

More godshit pics later or manãna,
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Click to view attachment This year's raw material in the making. That's 2 J. Herer, making evident once again that bigger pots = bigger plants rofl.gif

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Click to view attachment ...and a bit closer. Weird how different bits group in different ways in the water. If you observe the natural physical laws of nature, it makes it a lot easier to get the different desired parts out

Click to view attachment Bit of the ZZZ Grade from the last BB run. Fantastic stuff, less than a gram of this stuff has spiked countless joints, at least 20, used in very thin rolls so it can burn completely and give off the maximum perfume. It seems to be full of phenols. Maybe it's them that are incombustible, though I wouldn't have thought so, rather the opposite. I even smoked one jay just with the ZZZ, 3 or 4 wire thin rolls. Pongy and potent: sent me to sleep and nothing does that normally, not even the strongest stuff. Think this stuff has incredible therapeutical possibilities. Softish but long standing, general sense of well-being and seemingly no unpleasant side effects even for people unused to cannabis. Anti-addictive: you don't have any urge to smoke more, even if you are a sad case like me wink.gif , for quite a while, up to a couple of hours, even in prime smoking time cool.gif
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My bastard Pearl, the Hope for Humanity, as a topped clone for guerilla plot and the first viable looking one from self-seeded seed from the 1st. or 2nd. clone generation (now 11th./12th.). From the smell of her trunk though it's another more indica phenotype that's come through. The leaves are broader too, suggesting more indica influence. We'll see.

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The dry sift from the Herer Sativa, the raw material for 3 different Terpeninas, one mixed with the angelpiss, one with the godshit and one with a mix. Last time I just made the first two, and each has its plus points, so we'll see what a mix does. They are both top fuggin' notch however. Last longer than the hash mainly due to the longer lasting effect and the anti-addictive qualities (I just smoke less biggrin.gif ). As they also give far more bulk for less weed, about twice that of hash, they seem like a good idea.

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Some of the first hashes from the Herer, off fingers, glass and sift. Oh, and there's a bit of luxury soap in there too. Can you guess which bit? Friend gave it to me to look at for him. No idea what's in it, though I wouldn't give it more than max. 20% resin content, and it definitely has some tiny amount of natural terpenes in it.

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A bit of the above dry sift which is resinous enough to press up in my shoe. And a very nice smoke as it is even without the inclusion of the oils/juices. Strange thing: the first ice hash from this bud is honking cannaboids, and I think not necessarily just THC, as it makes me very sleepy. The equally pure dry powder in the nice yellow bit from the last post gets you very high and stoned but doesn't send you to sleep. This pressed dry sift, however, wakes me up and is positively invigorating, although it's is ca. 50% same resin as the ice hash, ca. 25% pistils, 20% green matter and 5% inert dirt (outside weed). That to me suggests that you don't just need a nice mix of cannaboids from resin to potenziate the good effects and milden the bad effects of THC, but maybe also something that's present in the terpenes or the bit of leaf directly attached to the base of the trich. Or I think more likely something in or on the pistils. I've seen tiny trichs on pistils in the microscope, and I've always enjoyed smoking them as they hold much flavour though on their own they don't seem to do too much for you. But I reckon there must be strong aromatics in those tiny trichs. Now I just have to think of a way of seperating them from the pistils biggrin.gif doh.gif

The detective story's becoming more and more complicated though, and interesting cool.gif

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This is the first major bit of ice hash to be produced from the Herer. Looking nice. I can see a few tiny specks of green on the top there. Bit of a drag as in the BB there was next to none, but I really ripped the bud up something rotten this time before sifting and ice mixing and even using my patented filter technique some fine green seems to have come through. But the proof will be in the final resin count. If I really break through 20% of original weight this time, could I give a damn about a couple of tiny flecks of green in there, especially if I think a very small quantity of something in the leaf may improve the overall effect.

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Leave you with a cheers.gif Looks goood enought to drink biggrin.gif Gives off a lovely smell as the perfumes get released during the frothing. Certainly smells good enough to drink and even tastes quite good though I wouldn't recommend it in large quantities doh.gif russian.gif
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Been producing and testing full-time. Fantastic results from this last run. Got better at getting out what I want, basicallly everything..... from about 100 different extractions so far I've had only one or two where I've said, not worth the bother. Also got a load of terpenes out this time. That needs cunning and a fair bit of trial and error doh.gif biggrin.gif . Probably about half a gram of terpenes hosts with varying concentrations, but mostly very perfumed and exceptionally strong in conjunction with THC. I've been spiking almost all my jays for a couple of weeks with either angelpiss products or godshit and haven't smoked a normal grass or hash spliff for ages. I maintained a surplus of powders and hashoils however, which goes to show how far that stuff goes, but now I can really orgy out out on the dust and it's a fuggin' dream. I'm so spaced out biggrin.gif

Here's some pics, I think I'm going to give up trying to explain things. Just notes. But please feel free to ask biggrin.gif

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Anyone fancy a bubble? This one's about one inch across, stayed like that for 30 mins. or so. In the photo there's maybe a hint at what contains the stuff that makes the bubble.... pistils! Strange though, as I've observed pistils sinking like leads in iced water (one of the problems in making ice hash from bud). Maybe there are different types of pistil.....

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sediment is fascinating. A long learning curve I reckon. Gonna go look at stones and sand and algi and seaweed in sea water. Already decided to use sparkling mineral water for the next run. Was very good at getting the trichs washed out of the tights. Who can guess what made this spotted sediment?

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Mannekin Pisss. You can just see the tiny jet of water, from a hole just above the (very light) sediment, and slightly tilted, the idea being to also get the silt to settle on the sediment. The lighter stuff at the end of the runs, which is vey good but very elusive, all easily <5 mcrons (basically stuff that passes through a teabag filter), will group together under certain conditions. It's more a question of observation than theory cool.gif One gets the knack wink.gif

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Beautiful bit of Z Grade hash

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Even nicer from the front, look at the red silt streak. Has a really weird composition which I've had similar before. More "plastic" than the nice soft plasticine hash, but bendy as hell and tough as boots. It's froma big froth experiment, first virgin cold froth from the mix which has a lot of very small resin suspended in the froth for a minute, which then sink as the froth dissolves. Really worthwhile, quite easy to combine top and bottom of resulting liquid while still cold. Syringes have become a valuable tool to siphon off the middle bit, though very time consuming.

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Fancy bit of pressed grass, tiny single budlettes from the bottom bit of the virgin froth, still very resinous and really saoked in the angel dust which most concentrated at the bottom of the froth which also is much stiffer, just like beaten egg whites, shoe pressed for hours. I'd forgotten what it was and couldn't work it out for a minute when I got it out. seemed like hash when flat, really dark, and looks funky like this too. Nice gear, like something Asian, Thai... that's all that was missing from our menu really rofl.gif

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One of my amazing flakes. They really are amazing. That in a joint up front and you're on Venus with a taste experience quite unique.

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As this is a nice little pile of fairly pure completely non-resinous angel dust, terpenes host. It might seem like trichs and resin, even close up, but it's not. This will spike about 8 joints, making them twice or thrice as potent and with a soaring rush when the first bit of angel dust and THC high hash burn together. I put it up front to get the taste, which is completely far out.... guitar.gif oranges and lemons say the bells of Tilt's legends guitar.gif

More when I land again on Earth biggrin.gif smoke.gif

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Lots of froth scum from boiling up.
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Nice bit of A Grade Herer Sativa
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Who says there's npt a Man in the Moon?! biggrin.gif

Here a very effective and simple collective drying, collection and distribution system
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Damned if I'm going to explain that tonight though cool.gif smoke.gif much to busy testing spliff.gif

Later. Croc
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QUOTE(TILT! @ May 10 2008, 05:42 AM) *
And....


... sorry any religious folks out there....

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Well, I guess that stuff, already terpenes rich and with an extra layer of either a highly perfumed godshit or some non-resinous saintsmegma on top, really is going to crucify me spliff.gif yahoo.gif

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It may sound a little weird or esoterical but I try to let myself be guided in what I'm doing by cannabis itself. I reckon the plant has a vested interest in some of what I'm discovering. We are co-dependent, so to speak. And I'm damn sure now, that cannabis isn't just a lucky freak of nature but does itself contain much magic and purposeful alchemy. My job is just to uncover it, to expose it. Not the alchemist but the alchemist's servant biggrin.gif

Thanks again however for your appreciation: it counts a lot to an old man like me rofl.gif And in years to come, when uk420 is kept alive just by the advertising on this thread alone biggrin.gif , you'll be able to say, look kids, I was there, and they'll go: "Cor blimey, grandad, f*ck a friggid fairy , did you know Tilt?" And you can say.... well sort of, I mean virtually, I mean, in those days before he'd perfected the production of the Angelpiss and the Godshit and sent it to the Pope to try and in consequence it had been blessed and all and been legalised everywhere except in the United Shapes of Arse where we once again banished all our religious weirdos..... Need I say more? Stick around, Vince, me anything other than untouched virgin fruit, and get your harvest going.... all it needs now to create an out-and-out revolution from my little discoveries here is for a few other good-natured and halfway intelligent stoners to try out what I've been doing. The first ones to go for it will make a whole heap of discoveries in their own right, mark my words. I've uncovered a deep deep pit of fun and games.


rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif jesus tilt ye 've just had me in stitches did ye get me pm

just want to add f*ck a friggid fairy rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif
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Hey that's great Wackie, chum.... what about a pic of the gear (Wackie PMed me to say he got 11 gm. out of 140 gm. trim: top notch yahoo.gif) here in the thread? Thanks for posting and glad I got yas chortling, and producing above all. Can you edit it to try to put the quote signs in?
Dunno about butane. Never done it, as I don't realy trust solvents much, but have heard that London is cleanish (gas not town rofl.gif ). Thought about giving it a go this last run, but at the end of the day I think I've probably got most of what's available out with the water already. Don't know what point your Hashberry run is at? Have you thrown away the trim already? You could certainly get some more resin out of it, either by redoing the ice run or by letting the trich eater settle some more. Best stuff I got out after 4-5 days on the last Blueberry lot! And you could easily top 10% on the trim/resin ratio.

Will post this in the thread too. You can also try just boiling down the trich water. Skim the froth off while it's boiling and let it drip off in something and dry out, should be highly perfumed stuff to spike your hash jays with. Boil it right down too and if you're a bit clever about it you should get a few gms. of godshit which is simply far-out.

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just wanted to add that my results didn't look as good as tilt's it was like black but I dont think I left it long enough to dry coz I have nothing to smoke pinch.gif

e2a:It was still the best hash I've smoked to date and the best taste
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Well if you lot think I've been idly sitting back on my laurels and dedicating myself too much to testing the terpeninas, you'd be half right. Sometimes I think about giving up this thread. Loads of people come around but hardly anybody writes anything. Horse, water, pearls and swine.... that's all I can think of rofl.gif Here I am providing the fodder for a complete revolution and people are still talking about buying themselves bubble bags for Xmas. Throw the blooming things away, for jipes sake... unless you have an vast and unending supply of trim etc. and are a THC junky.

Using my ultra-unsophisticated system described here, from good 5 ounces of bud I got 16.3 gm., about 11% of the best hash imaginable with basically no green contamination whatsoever, very similar in texture, effect and taste to the finest dry processed hashesplus another 12.6 gm. of products that are not theorethically pure hash but mostly look and act like it and are anyway more potent, and at least 10 gm. of cannabis sugar. Sugar, I hear you ask... has Tilt gone completely bonkers? rofl.gif No no, it's sugar, what I thought was hashoil.... worked it out yesterday. I'll explain later but just to say, it is very very good sugar, or rather molasses. Highly perfumed. Reminds you more of cake than dope. Have to think up a name for it. Godshit doesn't sound right any longer. Weird stuff: this load's drying really slowly and will take about a month to get into a manageable state, but I'm already spiking all my jays with it in liquid form as if it were oil, smearing a bit on the paper. More on that later.

Anyone who's done a bubble bag kit run on 150 gm. of bud may go sick.gif when they see the next pici:

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That's just the straight hashes with a load of quite good dry sift and cannabis molasses to make into the terpeninas, the lettering alone is 5 gm. of the finest possible, completely soft and pliable. It's from the last sedimentation of the second run on the bud which pulled in 7.5 gm, i.e. 5% of dry weight total. Worth it?! rofl.gif All much smaller than 25 microns so would have been lost in a bubble bag run. In the meantime I really think they're a bit of a rip off and the purity lark just makes me laugh. For me making a small amount of stuff that is very clean in itself but really just with THC as active ingredient and smoking it pure in a bong is like taking a bottle of Saint-Emilion 1982 Grand Cru Classé, freezing the alcohol off it and injecting it russian.gif Well... not quite that bad, but it makes the point. In terms of THC intensity, my no.3 or 4 would be nearest to bubble hash, slightly weaker though I've managed to get the taste back into mine, and if I spike it with the molasses the good bits of the THC rush and high are enhanced and any side effects even in overdose spliff.gif are virtually eradicated. But it's still nothing like my best hash, which comes out about no. 7 - 10, near the end, and where the trichs are much finer and otherwise with more stalks and trich base cells which contain other cannaboids and where I also managed to really mix silt and sediment to get full taste. It's actualy tastier than any import hash I've ever had and I think the water may bring out the perfumes more intensively. It may only be a fraction of the available terpenes, but more intense, if that makes sense.

Certainly makes me wonder 34.gif why don't I buy up the lakeside ranch next to Bubbleman's and link my tap up to his drain. He has a wonderful thread in his site where he makes 2 lbs. of bubble from 40 lbs. of trim. Really cool job they did, very impressive indeed.... just I'm thinking, shite, I could have had at least another 2 lbs. of the best possible hash and 10 oz. of molasses just out of his waste water doh.gif That molasses goes a long long way: dosage similar or less than oil.

The molasses is a lark. I was a bit disappointed at first when it clicked. Couldn't work out why it looked and acted like some really sticky oil but was water-soluble. Friggin' sugar! It really had me fooled though. At a certain drying stage I can roll the stuff out in really thin rolls like the finest hash, but I realise now it's just like a soft sweet at that stage.
Here a pic:
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I think it's quite a remarkable discovery. It's the missing link. It seems to completely counteract the various possible undesirable side-efects of all cannabis products, grass and hash. It doesn't smell in the slightest bit of hash, but tastes like something very good from a real hash taste when smoking it on it own with tobacco. It would certainly bubble on a bong but I haven't got a bong. No-one has answered my question as to what chemical and physical reaction creates the bubble in bubble hash. Do I have to work that out too?? wink.gif We're getting there..... somewhere between soap (the perfumed variety) and sugar. Haven't any chemists looked into that yet?

Sugar.... friggin' sugar rofl.gif I think I'll eat my panama hat. I'd have laughed if anyone had told me they get cannabis sugar out of ice extraction. And I'm laughing now. Cause I'm still dealing with the last extractions and I had one that was the sediment of the froth I took off the boiling water. The khaki/sandy froth that set on the top is almost non-resinous but did bind up to a hash seeming block of perfume powder, but the sediment from the same is something else, grey-brown and seemingly really quite resinous.... obviously tiny tiny trichs that were floating on the froth, though they wouldn't be terribly resinous I'd have thought. Think it's more a mix of resin and sugar. Still drying a bit then I can tell better. But the reason I'm laughing is that I'm smoking a jay with just a tiny roll of it with a mere meagre smear of molasses and tobacco, and it's blowing me apart in the nicest possible way. Another friggin' premiere, too much for me. Completely different to anything else I've ever smoked and gives me the giggles which I've hardly had for donkey's years. Too much biggrin.gif

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vince noir rock n roll star
sounds like a eureka moment ...top work fella ... wink.gif
TILT!

Yas no kiddin', Vince me ol' tuttifrutti, I seem to be going from one Eureka to the other. Can't even keep up with my own premieres at the moment.

New product from Tilt's Hash Emporium

Sugar Hash

Skimmed from the top of water boiling down to sugar, wet pics a few posts above.
the actual froth bit dried hard like this.
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Quite perfumed, interesting stuff, resinous but a different texture to all the rest. Pressed up to be the bit just above the left top squiggle of the T in the group pic.

And here's the sediment of the same, more resinous, on its way to being hash:
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then just a small roll (took half of that) and a smidgen of molasses....
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and bob's yer uncle
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Ever tried smoking sugar? It's going to catch on rofl.gif
Little "liquorice" heart, full of goodness.
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Isn't Nature wonderful?! biggrin.gif

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Archangel
Damn interesting thread old boy, not sure i understand most of it but if my plants produce this season you can expect a pm asking for step by step instructions on how to produce such filthy loveliness...

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Dutchie
This is an awesome post !TILT!. When the time comes, I know for a fact that I wont buy any bubblebags. Why would I after reading this wink1.gif

Just have to wait another few months to give this method a try is all. I'm sure I'll be back with many a question!

Keep up the good work you crazy hash scientist.
Perfect Haze
Fucking hillarious blackmailing folks into making hash in return for pics of your missus' tits! biggrin.gif

great thread boss
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And another new product from Tilt's Hash Emporium

Cannabis Molasses

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still thickening up in the air

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helped along with a time in a low heat oven

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isn't...

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..that....

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..just...
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...beautiful?!

Seems better to let it dry in the air though
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I think this stuff will leave a few people here scratching their heads nea.gif

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vince noir rock n roll star
your ideas should be made into a book tilt ..your ideas and innovations in hash /extract making could make you some serious wonga ....i cant wait for harvest to try some of these out for myself ...im gonna have to print all your instructions off first to study them
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Book, Vince? This thread already is.... Instructions? rofl.gif rofl.gif ...just been wanging in public, so to speak. If anyone can actually follow this they're a better man than me biggrin.gif But I promise I'll help yas all out with some hands on help when the time comes to get down to the dirty naughty.gif

Well, just in case people think I'm only after the rubbish of the refuse of the dregs of the bottom of the barrel..... here's the whole lot now apart from another 5/6 gm. block of terpenina hash that's still drying:

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Seems like a hell of a lot of gear at the end of the day for 150 gm. bud. Ca. 33 gm. hash or spiked sift terpeninas (stronger) plus quite a large amount of molasses slowly drying into caramel which I would say in terms of potency of high is equivalent to the same again. Not quite sure at what point of drying to use the molasses yet. It's very good at molasses stage just smearing a thin layer on a skin with whatever else you like: grass, hash, kif, and the very best with the sugar hash presented above. The dullest grass will be pepped up enormously by it, and strangely, a grass that is so strong it's almost unpleasant to smoke in normal quantities, like some of my normal Jack Herer pheno, will be completely mellowed by it. What made you cough doesn't any longer. The effect is also mellowed: not weaker, but different. An effect that I remember from a long while back.... when I was a drinking man. You know, that feeling you get on a balmy early summer evening in a pub garden with a thirst to die for and a pint of the finest in front of your lips, slowly gliding into a state of mellowness, at peace with oneself and the world for a brief moment. I thought you could only get it really from alcohol. It's what made it really difficult for me to give it up. The sugar does the same thing. That could help millions of dying people who are addicted to the state's legal hard drug. In countries which ban the active ingredients rather than cannabis pro forma I doubt if it would even contain forbidden substances.

Here's some of the terpeninas a bit closer up
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terpeninas, for anyone who hasn't been paying attention rofl.gif , are dry sifts between ca. 50 and 80% resin purity soaked either in angelpiss, yellow water with a large amount of terpene hosts, or in the sugar/molasses, which contains many perfumes (phenols?) and cannaboid modifiers/enhancers.

Here's the hash that went into the Tilt lettering. So soft but strong. Best ever.
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Couldn't see that scaling on the outside with the naked eye, and I've no idea what creates it. Far out stuff, however, n'est-ce pas?!

Later, croc.
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QUOTE(Archangel @ May 17 2008, 06:40 PM) *
Damn interesting.......filthy loveliness...


Watcha, Archie, my boy, how's life living in ze wets of Wales? biggrin.gif Reckon this dirty naughty.gif gear should be just up your street. I guess when you get around to trying the works here, you may even come up with a super archangelpiss rofl.gif to spike your stash.

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Fucking hillarious blackmailing folks into making hash in return for pics of your missus' tits! biggrin.gif

great thread boss


Keep my promises too, Hazy chum, or rather Mary does naughty.gif but so far nobody's taken me up on tit rofl.gif Mary's most beautiful bits have quite a lot to do with all this one way or another, from getting the seeds ages ago to overtly exciting the punters on the American Christian Cannabis Forum to being a constant inspiration to yours truly to this blackmail, as you call it. I call it persuasion... if the hash pics haven't already got you drooling enough and reaching for the tights and drill.

I've got a bit entranched in the by-products and refinements: let's see what the actual hash making squeezed together:
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This is going to take a while, to explain that lot, and I've got some sugar experiments on the go, so I may do it in stages.


1. Very pliable hash from the 3rd. ice hash sedimentation (the best normally) of the Herer which I covered in molasses, rather stupidly as it was a very flat shiny surface without it. Strength-wise hardly to be beaten in the hash category though.
2. A bit of the 1st. Herer sediment, for a friend called Tim (was on the bottom of the plastic cup doh.gif ). Very pliable which the first take isn't always, probably because of the initial dry shake taking the fine sand and dirt out which otherwise is logically at the bottom of the first sediment.
3. Same as 1. but coated in a non-resinous "paste" which contains a lot of terpenes. Completely different effect than 2. just due to the different thin coating on each. The body is the same hash.
4. Very light sand coloured dry gained hash. I call it bucket hash, 'cause I get it using a plastic bucket's static "magnet". It's just the very finest trichs.
5. Bit from the drying mould of the small Pearl run (the other sativa), with an M on it for my girlfriend Mary. Less pliable than the Herer 1st. 'cause I couldn't be bothered to dry shake 20 g. and I wanted all the trichs in the ice hash. Psychedilic stuff like Pearl herself biggrin.gif
6. Those two bigger dark brown slabs above are terpeninas, a mix of rough dry sift and molasses. The rough sift was ca. 55% smallest and maturest trichs/20%pistils/20%green/5%other (dirt, terpenes etc.). The molasses I imagine can't mix much with resin but I reckon does soak into esp. the pistils but also the green matter, so this stuff looks and acts like the best hash around. Just one difference: its's stronger cool.gif And even tastier, as dry sift with all the perfumes plus the molasses which is very strongly perfumed and potent in itself.
7. Above that there's another bit of pretty much the same made in a slightly different way and just now still drying before being pressed. I really had to persuade myself to do a dry shake up front, thinking of all the trichs that wouldn't be in the ice hash, but I've been able to use it in all sorts of ways and it solved almost all contamination problems and there's virtually no green matter in the ice hash.
8. The 2 bits under the toothpick in the middle are slightly purified dry sift ("woody" plant matter extracted by overflow) pressed up slightly damp in the heel of my shoe. It isn't as hash like as the molasses soaked rougher sift, and was in the water for 30 mins. rather than the normal 2 mins. for the seperation and that did lose a bit of flavour. Still good though, and beats any even good Maroccan import I can get.
9. Impaled on the toothpick another bit like 2. The sugar coating takes ages to dry.

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10. Some cannabis molasses drying in the bottom of a plastic cup.
11. Below that the non-resinous plant residue from a dry sift purification process, which is however full of perfumes, then coated in molasses. Damn fine fresh tasting smoke, and even does the works, strangely enough.
12. Going left from that there's a "calzone", rolled up with trapped air in the middle. Want to see how it cures like that. It's really good stuff from the second run of the sativas mixed, very fine resin (definitely under smallest bag size) and very clean, through all the shit already being elsewhere biggrin.gif . Same stuff as the letters below. Probably all round the nicest hash of the run.
13. Left of that there's the Pearl like 5. but pressed up hard. Jees that hurt in my shoe doh.gif Little bit of this goes a long way and I figured a way to keep some of the great Pearl taste in it by extracting the water from the middle and eventually getting the top silt (lots of perfumes) to deposit itself on the resin below. Begorrah, sire, can't do that with your bags cool.gif
14. left again a nice sandy ball of Herer from the 2nd. sediment of the 1st. run. Very good quality. Any residuous inert contamination will have been in the 1st. sediment take.
15. This was that first take, and was in fact more brittle, but still very good.
16. This was the ultra-purified dry sift (explain how I do that one day biggrin.gif ) that also provided the plant basis for 11. This hash is very good, seems to have even more perfume than 4. which never saw a drop of water.
17. Another "calzone" bit like 12., this time folded like an envelope.
18. These are all from silt (the bit that floats on top of the water) and are varying ratios of resin and terpene hosts. This is an area of study on its own and to stop this post getting too long rofl.gif I'll deal with these substances another time.

Gawd this is really getting long but I thought there's not much point in just posting a pic of a load of hash without explaining a bit how I made it. There's so much of it, and it's all so diverse, considering all bar 2 bits come from the same plant. Just different bits of the same plant. That's the beauty of sedimentation: you can be very precise about what you're taking out at what point.

19. The Best! Wouldn't have used anything else for my signature of course cool.gif This was achieved by doing a second run of the Herer and Pearl mixed, both having been mixed for 2 mins. for the first run, then frozen wet and really thrashed for 10 mins. the next day with loads of ice. Pulled in almost as much as the first run did, and the quality is superb. It may not be THC rich, the trich heads having mostly gone in the first run, but it's very smooth in texture and taste and it's just a great all round hash with an all round effect. There's the THC rush and then the body stone and it all seems to be in harmony.

20. The only bit of what I'd call B Grade, and then only because it's rock hard until heated. Very good all the same, fluffs up nicely in sandy brown squiges like an top class import. Tastes quite like one too and does the honours even better spliff.gif

So there you go. What a journey. Was a quick run at the start and I had most of the hash in the bag within 3 hours, but now a couple of weeks later I'm still pumping out more and there's a couple of grams of sugar hash which should have been included in the above picture, but I'll get onto them later or manãna. Here's a bit to whet your appetites:

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WackieChewBaccie
here ye go tilt as promised: first pic is of what I had just scraped out the pan.

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this is the state of the pan rofl.gif

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and this is what it was like dry this morning

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shame i've only got a crappy phone tilt

cheers for the lessons

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TILT!
Well done, Wackie chum.... useless photos mind you rofl.gif I can't really tell what exactly you've got there at the end, but proof of the pudding is in the eating. You'll have to render it very small to smoke it. If liquid then just smear a bit on a skin like oil, if solid but pliable, roll it into very very thin rolls, if solid and hard you'll ahve to powder it some way. Mix with any other cannabis. Smoked on its own or with tobacco it might give you a perfumed smoke but not much effect. But smoked with grass will really enhance the grass and its effect.

Difficult to tell from the pics whether you've managed to get something useful out.
Here's a bit of the stuff I'm presently using to fortify my jays:

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This stuff had been completely burned in the oven by mistake and then powdered, but the powder then rolled up like this and doesn't even smell burnt any longer. Freshly burnt I personally found the odour disgusting (mixture of the most unpleasant male hormone sweat with rancid smegma.... bit like putting one's nose in the urinal drain outlet at Victoria station rofl.gif) though Mary loved it (wonder why in that case!) but now it just has the almost overpowering perfume of the sugary residue that I've grown accustomed to.

But.... talking of Mary.... seeing as how Wackie here has at least made an effort to do one of my weirder extractions.... and how I keep my promises... so time for an update on that "technical" photo:

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Just for you, Wackie biggrin.gif you certainly earned it. Any more takers for the TILT CHALLENGE?Not very , technical, my work with Paint... now missing a bit completely, but sure you get the point and I'll start a new "puzzle" soon.

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Sin Humo
Some food for thought here if not experimentation and as they say "Don't knock it 'till you've tried it" I'll certainly give it ago when I get some raw material in. Do you think it's worth doing whole plants and forget smoking the weed? For some with limited crops that would be a leap of faith first time round. Thanks again for the info and an amusing read.
limboman
Hey thumbsup.gif muchas kudos thumbsup.gif for spreading the wealth Tilt, and it is a wealth of good info right here old bean!
I read your book from cover to cover last night and I somehow feel now, that I too (however vicariously), have lived your dream.

I will use your system next harvest, all to gain and nothing to lose, right? I'm with you on the "slight decrease in purity but maximise yield" school of thought, though as you have shown with a bit more time extremely pure and potent fractions can be obtained with this very simple system. Great stuff dude!

I have about 3oz of bone dry trim left over from my first grow, might give it a try. Only problem is the trim had developed the slight musty beginnings of mould overnight, even with a de-humidifier running 24hrs in the cupboard, doh! Maybe I could still use this trim with your system Tilt, I just wouldnt be able to get all the fractions as I think the slight mould would float to the top, rendering all that floats useless. I will give this some thought but I think it should work ok with slightly musty trim. Until I read this I was just going to BHO the lot but now i'm not so sure...

Keep up the good work chum!

Regards,
Limboman
TILT!
Thanks for the kind words guys biggrin.gif I'll keep those cheques coming nice and regular whistling.gif biggrin.gif

Sin Humo, it would be a waste to do it with whole plants I think. After about a month and a half of smoking only hash and derivatives, I've found it rather nice to crack open another jar of well-cured Blueberry, even though I do smear a streak of the molasses along the outside of the grass jays and it makes it a beautiful smoke. Also some of the best derivatives I've made here have been of grass soaked in terpene juice or the molasses when runnier, so one does need some grass. I'm thinking of my summer harvest now and reckon I'll just trim the fan leaves and main trunk off and the best buds, and use my ice sedimeantation techniques on the rest. That way I should get a nice mix of products to see me through the year, aiming at about 15 oz. top buds, 5 oz. dry/ice hash and who knows.... maybe 3 gallons of lovely cannabis treacle to spike it all with.

Limboman, glad you enjoyed the read. Quite difficult to follow I imagine biggrin.gif I had no idea it would turn out like this. I certainly am a different person to the one who started this thread. I feel like I've been on a long long journey and have found some treasure on the way. I've seem to have gone full circle, disappearing up cannabis's arse and reappearing from the mouth holding a packet of liquorice allsorts. Liquorice is btw the nearest description to what I have got now from the sugar/molasses/caramel. If you lick it it's just like the saltiest sweetest strongest dutch liquorice, only about 100 times stronger. I have yet to try taking a larger amount of it orally, but I licked a fair bit last night and could still taste it this morning so taking more may be problematic. I'm going to start a new thread just on that extraction of the liquorice, as it's really interesting stuff and a whole new world for itself.
You're right with the mould and that you can't use the silt or water, but you'll get the hash. Way I see it, the mould will in part make it's way into BHO: I mean the mould particles are hundreds of times finer than even the finest plant material.

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Hedonist_UK
Tilt this has to be the best thread I've read in ages mate, I've read loads about making hash in a bucket but none have been as good a read as yours and I can't wait to give it a bash. Your bonkers aproach under the influence was a joy to read, your a lot like me except I couldnt have written it up so well rofl.gif

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Hughie Green
Absolutely fascinating TILT, I have just read the entire thread and mainly wondered why I have not read it before??
anyhoo very well written and very amusing too, well done T, I'm wondering too if you are an Aberdonian considering the amount of goodness you have managed to extract from your plants biggrin.gif wink1.gif

have you ever combined parts of all of the products (by ratio) into one lump to see what the total effect might be?.

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Very close Hughie chum.... get ti Inverness and keep on going over the water and you'll find my great-great-grandpa sitting at the firth a-tokin' on his crofters' homegrown in his wee clay pipe.
Glad you liked the thread like biggrin.gif anyone who reads all this in one go is a better man than me rofl.gif
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tsk
yer gramps'll be watchin the dolphins batter a porpoise then lol.gif

should've guessed ye were north. no much to do on the black isle like... biggrin.gif

my molases i made yesterday has turned into what looks like slate after drying over night. totally dry and crumbly, but smells of nowt.

wondering why i had such a different result. my trim was fresh, so maybe...

ill echo the green man and say magic thread tilt. yer aff yer heid biggrin.gif

keep it up bro

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QUOTE(tsk @ Jun 23 2008, 02:51 PM) *
my molases i made yesterday has turned into what looks like slate after drying over night. totally dry and crumbly, but smells of nowt.


Very strange, that, tsk.... 34.gif 'cause if there's something my molasses does do, it's smell a lot biggrin.gif Didn't your whole house, I mean croft, smell incredibly honey bee polleny while you were boiling down the brew? Could be that different strains have different sugar levels, I guess. My first little batch went hard and powdery but it still did the works. I'd recommend giving your slate a wee bit of hot water and stiring up a little treacle, spread that on the outside of a grass spliff and see if it does anything in terms of total taste and effect. This last lot I even burnt a batch trying to bake it in the oven and had a rock hard solid mass like you which I powdered with difficulty, but the stuff was so sticky I couldn't spread it into a jay....


it went from Click to view attachment to Click to view attachment that's sticking virtically,



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i.e. back to the original reddish-brown.

Hmmm, if yours isn't really worth smoking at the end of the day, I'd have a hunch I might know why. Please supply as many details as poss. about what you boiled down, and how it reacted in the process.

Cheers, but not from the Black Isle any more. My babies need sun, then I go to the sun.... presently in the south of the south and heading for the equator.

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