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PJ Weed
My mother died on Thurs afternoon, in Ireland.

My Husiart (GP) here has refused to provide paperwork (Permit) to cross International Borders with cannabis as a medicine.
These are available to all Dutch National patients I know but I am told that they are not to me as I do not have a Dutch Passport ... which I understand is inaccurate advice ... and no doubt illegal under EU Law.

I will be joining her if I attend the funeral without my Huisart's (GP's) prescribed cannabis.


Great!

I have asked, and pleaded, but it's no good - some doctors only have hearts of granite!

Denies permission to attend my mother's funeral!!!

So ... this is how I am to be treated in Holland too!

What category of prisoner is denied permission to attend his/her mother's funeral?
What sort of despicable crime would one have to have committed to be treated like this?
Weedio
My condolences to you dude, my thoughts are with you and your family.

Does Holland have a citizens advice bereau type of place?
Can you try there?
Hir
Cant you post yourself some stuff to arrive at your mothers address? + do you really not have any prescribe medications to manage for two days. This is a lame excuse, sorry and condolances.
PJ Weed
Yes!

But ... funeral will be over and done by time I get through to the Advice

...

which will no doubt result in a U-turn.

I've seen lots of U-turns going on in Holland since I arrived here July07.

They mis-treat the patient just because of the prescription need!

Sometimes ... one has to wonder if it's really worth living!
scarface
sorry for your loss pj, but nothing on this earth would stop me going to my old girls funeral - 'suck it up' for a couple of days mate because i think you will regret it if you dont go bud smoke.gif
PJ Weed
QUOTE(Hir @ Mar 1 2008, 07:05 PM) *
Cant you post yourself some stuff to arrive at your mothers address? + do you really not have any prescribe medications to manage for two days. This is a lame excuse, sorry and condolances.
I thought about posting some recently and I was suddenly driving on 3 wheels!!!
Not thinking about it again!
Actually, never considered posting it to Ireland.
Anyway, funeral will be over before it gets there via snailmail - they bury them fast in Ireland.
Oh! ... my mother's address ... Care Home ... they would instantly call the Garda and have me arrested on arrival.
scarface
actually cant you just get some hash as your in holland, swallow it then shit in a bag to get it out (dont forget latex gloves) or even stick it up your arse mate smoke.gif
PJ Weed
QUOTE(scarface @ Mar 1 2008, 07:08 PM) *
sorry for your loss pj, but nothing on this earth would stop me going to my old girls funeral - 'suck it up' for a couple of days mate because i think you will regret it if you dont go bud smoke.gif
I wish I could do as you say. I do wish to be there but I cannot see any logic in two funerals for my attending one. I do not get a few days without 'to suck it up' and keep going! I get 12 hours depending on the day now, sometimes I can get 17/18 hours without but I am a mess, sweating, cramping, puking, and in extreme pain. I have spent 7 months getting myself as well as I look on the outside but I am still very ill.

Anyway, I always care more about the living and try to get to see people while they are still alive.
T187
i brought weed back from dam to were i live i just didnt bring green i selected the strongest solid weeds like zero zero or some manali black easier to hide in a pair ov socks in bottom ov ur luggage m8, it will sort u 4 a few days im sure

peace T187!!!

p.s i recently lost my dad m8 i know what its like so im sorry to here this shit news best ov luck to u and ur family!! spliff.gif spliff.gif
scarface
QUOTE(PJ Weed @ Mar 1 2008, 06:19 PM) *
QUOTE(scarface @ Mar 1 2008, 07:08 PM) *
sorry for your loss pj, but nothing on this earth would stop me going to my old girls funeral - 'suck it up' for a couple of days mate because i think you will regret it if you dont go bud smoke.gif
I wish I could do as you say. I do wish to be there but I cannot see any logic in two funerals for my attending one. I do not get a few days without 'to suck it up' and keep going! I get 12 hours depending on the day now, sometimes I can get 17/18 hours without but I am a mess, sweating, cramping, puking, and in extreme pain. I have spent 7 months getting myself as well as I look on the outside but I am still very ill.

Anyway, I always care more about the living and try to get to see people while they are still alive.



so are you suggesting you cant live without weed pj? because thats what it sounds like mate smoke.gif
it may help with pain a little bit but jesus its not some super strong painkiller, is it? smoke.gif

e2a - also i dont think anyones denied your rights to go to the funeral, hes just simply saying you cant carry illegal drugs accross borders, which is fair enough really as it wouldnt take long for people to start 'using' disabled folk to smuggle drugs, also i expect he would get in trouble too smoke.gif
Hir
QUOTE(scarface @ Mar 1 2008, 06:25 PM) *
QUOTE(PJ Weed @ Mar 1 2008, 06:19 PM) *
QUOTE(scarface @ Mar 1 2008, 07:08 PM) *
sorry for your loss pj, but nothing on this earth would stop me going to my old girls funeral - 'suck it up' for a couple of days mate because i think you will regret it if you dont go bud smoke.gif
I wish I could do as you say. I do wish to be there but I cannot see any logic in two funerals for my attending one. I do not get a few days without 'to suck it up' and keep going! I get 12 hours depending on the day now, sometimes I can get 17/18 hours without but I am a mess, sweating, cramping, puking, and in extreme pain. I have spent 7 months getting myself as well as I look on the outside but I am still very ill.

Anyway, I always care more about the living and try to get to see people while they are still alive.



so are you suggesting you cant live without weed pj? because thats what it sounds like mate smoke.gif
it may help with pain a little bit but jesus its not some super strong painkiller, is it? smoke.gif


Agree 101% the only people who get massive relief from cannabis are MS sufferers....
PJ Weed
My diagnosis, or lack of officially, and what cannabis is keeping at bay.

Chinese Dr has put in writing 4 months ago, "Fracture spine, nerve damage, blood in sepsis, heart trouble, and that there is something in his abdomen that should not be", but he cannot tell what it is without an MRI ... which he is not allowed to order as his qualifications are not recognised in Holland ... yet he was right months before the Western trained Doctors, with all their resources!!!

2 female A&E Doctors in Den Haag have asked if I have been seen by a Dutch Neurologist.

At the time I had not so I said I had been seen by several Neurologists in UK to which, again, came the question,
"Have you actually been seen by a Dutch Neurologist!?".

Well, I now have ... had to do my own Referral (!!!) ... and he has said, "I fully expect you to be dead before I get to deliver your diagnosis!".

Male A&E Dr in Den Haag has run alsorts of tests and said, We can see infection, sarcoidosis and amyloidosis.

A Consultant has done alsorts of tests ... which all came back as, "Normal", but when I challenged this the Dr was out the door before me, to the Lab, to re-test everything himself, the old fashioned way, and next morning I get a phonecall, 1st thing, to tell me, "New results! You are very seriously ill. We now need to wait for the MRI scans and your diagnosis from the Neurologist. In the meantime, please, take 2800IU of Vitamin D3 a day, as this may help reduce the pain".
I was already taking D3 but only 1000IU.

So ... I wait!

Chris P
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your mother PJ.

I'm a bit confused though, are you saying you won't goto your mothers funeral if you don't have any Cannabis? yinyang.gif
maryjane
I doubt your mother would want you to attend her funeral in such poor health.

She has died and left her mortal coil, do you no think, by pandering to what is expected of you in attending, could result in your death or considerable lack of well being.

I suggest you seek solace in the fact she has died hopefully at peace, and therefore you are free from expectations

Arnold Layne
My condolences, PJ.

QUOTE(scarface @ Mar 1 2008, 06:25 PM) *
so are you suggesting you cant live without weed pj? because thats what it sounds like mate smoke.gif
it may help with pain a little bit but jesus its not some super strong painkiller, is it? smoke.gif

e2a - also i dont think anyones denied your rights to go to the funeral, hes just simply saying you cant carry illegal drugs accross borders, which is fair enough really as it wouldnt take long for people to start 'using' disabled folk to smuggle drugs, also i expect he would get in trouble too smoke.gif

Absolutely M8.
dr rockster

Very sorry to hear of your loss PJ,but as you were previously living in England could you not try to get a mate to sort something out for you on arrival?

I went through customs last week with a few grams in my front jeans pocket,tucked inside a 50g baccy packet,but thats me,mind you never did it before and if caught with 5g or less I think its confiscation and an on the spot fine in England.

On the Barcelona side was about to get a pat down from a customs guy after going through the metal detector but the guy on the x ray machine called me over to ask why I had an aerosol in my hand luggage,which I'd forgotten to remove as they are not allowed in the passenger compartment and after removing it and apologising was waved on,no pat down!

Again sorry about your Ma PJ and do hope you can can get your problem sorted.
eri
hmm.. sorry to hear that pj, but if my mate with MS can go without it for a week to visit Cuba, I'm sure it's possible to manage for a couple of days...

I would probably swallow as much as possible (not in a bag... for the effect! biggrin.gif) and then maybe augment with some painkillers on the 2nd day? Is two days entirely necessary? No way you could get wrecked, fly in for funeral and then fly out? smile.gif
elvis loved burgers
are you serioulsly saying you wont go to your own mothers funeral because you aren't allowed to bring grass with you through customs?
tickittiboo
I'm sorry for your loss PJ. But in all honesty, you can fly to Ireland in a little over an hour, and fly back in the same time. You should buy yourself a nice bit of good quality pot, do yourself a healthy yoghurt with half on the way to the airport, have the other half on your person and make the effort. You can't blame your doctor, he has no authority over international drugs laws. I hope you make the right decision for yourself, but it sounds like you will have to live with a decision like that long time after it mate. And what about the rest of your family?
dr rockster

You only need a few G, just 'bin it' up the jaxie mate and no way are they gonna pull you out of a line and get the rubber gloves on.
tootsweet
What is a funeral?


Is it to show the rest of the world that you cared?

Is it to say a last farewell?

Or is it to take time to remember their life and all the things they added to yours?


You have to ask why you want to go, if it's causing you such dificulties.


If it's to show the world you care? Fuck the world, your mum knows you cared.

If it's to say goodbye - your mum's not there! She's in your memories, she's in your heart.

If it's to remember her, then that's something you can do right where you are now and everywhere you go in the future.


As a mother i can think of nothing worse than any of my kids being in pain. Your mum would have felt the same.

Stay home and light a candle and think of all the times she made you smile, she'd much prefer that, trust me hug.gif

dr rockster
Rubbish,you turn up and show your Ma some respect by being as close to her as you can at her send off.

If you REALLY can't go of course your Mum will understand.



If you really loved your Mum and cant carry some canna just take the pain.
Culchi
I'm sorry for your loss, friend. If I had it, I'd meet you off the plane and hand you a bag of the shit, but Dublin airport ain't exactly Dubai, if oyu know what I mean? Get yourself a Q out of a coffee shop and stash it. And the Garde couldn't find their own arse with all hands and a map tbh. wink1.gif
tootsweet
QUOTE(dr rockster @ Mar 2 2008, 01:04 PM) *
Rubbish,you turn up and show your Ma some respect by being as close to her as you can at her send off.

If you REALLY can't go of course your Mum will understand.



If you really loved your Mum and cant carry some canna just take the pain.





chrisesq
QUOTE(Nettle-Grower @ Mar 2 2008, 01:18 PM) *
Get yourself a Q out of a coffee shop and stash it. And the Garde couldn't find their own arse with all hands and a map tbh. wink1.gif


EXACTLY........talk about a storm in a teacup! Too much drama!


chrisesq
PJ Weed
Thank you, and I have done exactly as you said.

As I said, I prefer to see people when they are alive and I did see her when she was alive in in fairly good health, as I was at the time ... 'tanked-up' on Nabilone!!! It was the last time I was able to use an aircraft.

Thanks again ... and for all your words, and how you said what you have said. Funny, but you've brought back memories
and ... well ...

QUOTE(tootsweet @ Mar 2 2008, 02:01 PM) *
What is a funeral?


Is it to show the rest of the world that you cared?

Is it to say a last farewell?

Or is it to take time to remember their life and all the things they added to yours?


You have to ask why you want to go, if it's causing you such dificulties.


If it's to show the world you care? Fuck the world, your mum knows you cared.

If it's to say goodbye - your mum's not there! She's in your memories, she's in your heart.

If it's to remember her, then that's something you can do right where you are now and everywhere you go in the future.


As a mother i can think of nothing worse than any of my kids being in pain. Your mum would have felt the same.

Stay home and light a candle and think of all the times she made you smile, she'd much prefer that, trust me hug.gif

tootsweet
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PJ Weed
So ... I didn't get to the funeral ... in fact, had I been well, made the arrangements to get myself there, I'd have just been in time, maybe, to see the coffin go into the ground. It was all done very fast! I was 'kept on hold' re the funeral details and only told told that she had already been buried, in an email, after it was all over!!!

So ... I happened to park my 'wheelchair' near a Church that is normally not open but was that day ...

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Weird day that was ! ... apart from everything else ... I had a pigeon shit on me (some here say it's for good luck!!!?) ... and on the way home I saw something I've not seen for many years ... a meteorite shooting across the sky - West to East as I was driving North on N44 from Den Haag.

Thanks Toots - for the inspiration - saw the Church was open and thought of what you had written.
Also remembered my Mother's voice saying, "You shouldn't pass a Church without going in and saying prayer!".
Hmm! I may not be taking this up as a regular exercise ... but ... it's worked for me! Felt much better.
MrX
Hey mate, I am really gutted to hear about your pain, but am glad to hear you found somewhere to think.

My best mate died when we were 16, messing with things he didnt understand. I went to the funeral, but never visited the grave again, was almost 11yrs ago and is close to where i live.

This is not because I dont care, it because my best mate was not a stone in the ground, and thats how I want to remember him. The good times fill my memories, not 10yrs of visiting a grave stone.

I hope you get what Im saying, it dont matter what you do to show your grief, nobody is looking. She was in your thoughts and always will be, thats what matters and nothing else.

Best of luck in your difficult times buddy, my thoughts go out to you.

MrX
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Its a terrible thing to go through and its even worse as we cant do anything to stop this. The only advice i could try n give u is try and deal with it head on i've let myself fade in to depression due to a couple of deaths and this was cause i didnt want to deal with it i didnt try to understand it or move on from it. I just constantly thought of the fact they had died and couldn't get past it for a long time.

Its hard i know but, well i quess we all find our own way of dealing with it. Hope ur ok mate
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