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hutchiepaisley
[size="4"][/size] alrite uk420ers having a problem with my new grow !!!
i am growing new strain lemon skunk from greenhouse seeds and nirvana white widdow
i germed the seeds 4 weeks ago and grew them up for 3 weeks under 2 x 20w fluros and 125 enviro.
they are currently 7 days into veg under a 600w hps and the leaves on the plants are starting to produce yellowy lookin spots and some slight curling as you an see from the pic which are more visible wen put upto light.this is only my 3rd grow and i havent had any problems before so i am a little uneasy.the plants are growing fine but its just the leaves that seem to be having problems.i have just been feeding the plain water with superthrive as on my first grow i fed bio-grow too early and caused nute burn which took my plants a little longer to veg thn it would.could it be a lack of nitrogen??? any help well appreciated folks
peace out hutchie cool.gif
apologise for poor pictures the best i can do !!!
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established1976
have you been potting them up? or have they been in the same pot the whole time
hutchiepaisley
QUOTE(established1976 @ Feb 22 2008, 09:11 PM) *
have you been potting them up? or have they been in the same pot the whole time


i started them off in small square pots then upgraded the to 5l pots for veg and i will be re-potting upto 10L when i put them into flowering
cheers for reply m8
please note i kno the leaf is small but this is one of the lower leaves
established1976
you want to put them into the 10l pot before you flower so the root mass can build up as when you start flowering the root growth slows down a lot.

they should have plenty of fresh nutes in the soil if you're potting them up, when did you last pot up? maybe they are ready to go into the new 10l pot? (check the root ball), have you got a picture of the whole plant? perhaps the superthrive is causing problems (possible nute lockout), I stopped giving my aero grow all these extra additives and now things are running smoothly, sometime you just gotta keep it simple.
hutchiepaisley
anyone have any ideas what could be the problem??
i meant to say in first post i am using all-mix thats why i have been holding bak on nutrients as i am led to believe all-mix is already slightly fertilized and shouldnt need a feed of nutrients for 4 weeks??
hutchiepaisley
QUOTE(established1976 @ Feb 22 2008, 09:28 PM) *
you want to put them into the 10l pot before you flower so the root mass can build up as when you start flowering the root growth slows down a lot.

they should have plenty of fresh nutes in the soil if you're potting them up, when did you last pot up? maybe they are ready to go into the new 10l pot? (check the root ball), have you got a picture of the whole plant? perhaps the superthrive is causing problems (possible nute lockout), I stopped giving my aero grow all these extra additives and now things are running smoothly, sometime you just gotta keep it simple.


i potted the into 5l pots a week past on wednesday there,i am going to veg the for 4 weeks before i put into flowering..
i have potted some of my plants str8 into the 10L pots but seem to have the same problem.could it be because i am using superthrive with all mix and thats causing some sort of problem because the soil is already slightly fertilized??
established1976
QUOTE(hutchiepaisley @ Feb 22 2008, 09:35 PM) *
QUOTE(established1976 @ Feb 22 2008, 09:28 PM) *
you want to put them into the 10l pot before you flower so the root mass can build up as when you start flowering the root growth slows down a lot.

they should have plenty of fresh nutes in the soil if you're potting them up, when did you last pot up? maybe they are ready to go into the new 10l pot? (check the root ball), have you got a picture of the whole plant? perhaps the superthrive is causing problems (possible nute lockout), I stopped giving my aero grow all these extra additives and now things are running smoothly, sometime you just gotta keep it simple.


i potted the into 5l pots a week past on wednesday there,i am going to veg the for 4 weeks before i put into flowering..
i have potted some of my plants str8 into the 10L pots but seem to have the same problem.could it be because i am using superthrive with all mix and thats causing some sort of problem because the soil is already slightly fertilized??

as a general quideline, Id say drop the superthrive, pot up every 2 weeks and only feed water, when they have been in the final pot for 2 weeks start feeding them grow and bloom as per ot1's schedule
hutchiepaisley
QUOTE(established1976 @ Feb 22 2008, 09:39 PM) *
QUOTE(hutchiepaisley @ Feb 22 2008, 09:35 PM) *
QUOTE(established1976 @ Feb 22 2008, 09:28 PM) *
you want to put them into the 10l pot before you flower so the root mass can build up as when you start flowering the root growth slows down a lot.

they should have plenty of fresh nutes in the soil if you're potting them up, when did you last pot up? maybe they are ready to go into the new 10l pot? (check the root ball), have you got a picture of the whole plant? perhaps the superthrive is causing problems (possible nute lockout), I stopped giving my aero grow all these extra additives and now things are running smoothly, sometime you just gotta keep it simple.


i potted the into 5l pots a week past on wednesday there,i am going to veg the for 4 weeks before i put into flowering..
i have potted some of my plants str8 into the 10L pots but seem to have the same problem.could it be because i am using superthrive with all mix and thats causing some sort of problem because the soil is already slightly fertilized??

as a general quideline, Id say drop the superthrive, pot up every 2 weeks and only feed water, when they have been in the final pot for 2 weeks start feeding them grow and bloom as per ot1's schedule


they have been in veg for a week past on wednesday so this wednesday i should re-pot upto 10l leave it for the remaining 2 week in veg? feeding with plain water,then when i put them into flowering the 2 week would have passed and then i should start using the nutrients?
the thing is aswell as i said i have already potted a few of my plants into 10L pots as i had a limited number of 5l pots and they have the same problem?
could be the superthrive?
established1976
yes drop the superthrive and just use water, pot up when they have filled the soil with roots (maybe 2 weeks from last repot), slide the soil mass out carefully and have a look see if you can see roots all round the side. and yes after 2 weeks in final pot with all mix you can usually start using nutrients some say you should wait till the plants tells you its hungry before you start feeding
hutchiepaisley
thanks alot established your help is well appreiated.all drop the superthrive,re-pot on wednesday,feed plain water and see how it goes.if nothing seems to be getting better i will get some better snaps of my full plants so you an get a better idea what could be the problem.

do you have the link for the bio feeding shedule? i have grow/bloom/max and want a schedule from someone whos more experiecnd.on last grow i used the actual bio shedule which i am led to believe is too much
thanks again bud cool.gif
established1976
QUOTE(oldtimer1 @ Feb 23 2004, 10:44 PM) *
The BioBizz chart is for rooted cuttings not seedlings.

The optimum ph of the compost for maintaining health and growth is 6.5 to 6.8. It is much harder for the compost to buffer up than to buffer down.

I don't know how many time I have to say this, if you do ph down not below 6.5! You will mess up the micro flora and if not very careful ruin the compost..

In answer to your Q's Mr Dragon your programme vis 3 inch to 6 inch to 11 litre is fine. But for the 3 inch pots use half and half allmix and perlite.

As soon as the rootball is netted with fine roots move them to your 6 inch pots and neat allmix.

Same story for the move to the final pots. Once in the final pots let them root out the soil ball before flowering, as a general rule of thumb once all the plants are showing roots at the drainage holes. Go to 12/12.

You should not need any feed right through these stages. Once you are on 12/12 start feeding 1 ml of both grow and bloom to a litre of water.

At about week 2 of flowering change the mix to 1 ml grow and 2 ml bloom per litre.

At week 3 [21 days] a one off feed of a heaped table spoon of epsom salts per 10 litres add to that 1 ml of grow and 2 ml of bloom.

Round the 4 week mark, the mix is 1ml gr and 3 ml bl.

Once you start to see browning of pistils change to 2 ml gr and 1 ml bl keep with that till the end.

All you really need is grow and bloom + a little epsom salts.

Does this make sense?

An added point, if you see the tissue between the veins on the lower leaves turning a lighter green at any point its likly the first signs of Mg shortage starting an addition of a little epsom salts to the next feed should keep things right. Don’t over do this or else you can lock out other nutrients.

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