billious
Jan 21 2008, 11:31 PM
Hi all, I wanted to grow Haze but they take so long and I have a low growroom so even sativa-ish plants are difficult for me as they have to be bent a lot and take up too much space/time. So I popped some Haze seeds in the 12/12 flower room and they have been in there for 4 months now. Once they sexed I trained the 4 remaining up the side of the growroom and eventually put them behind a net. They have been potted up right through with no probs and I've pulled three staged crops without them getting in the way, had to move my cooltubes though as they are suicidal! Anyway here's a photo, its a compomise but I'll still get something smokable in a month or two....
Click to view attachmentThe haze is on the right
buddaman
Jan 21 2008, 11:44 PM
looking very smart indeed
Underwater
Jan 22 2008, 12:06 AM
Fantastic!! thats the best use of space ive seen yet!
Burns
Jan 22 2008, 08:02 AM
That`s quality mate

. Really smart training and use of space, I hope you enjoy they`re rewards.
Burns
Dr Benways Assistant
Jan 22 2008, 11:01 AM
Most excellent. Got me making all sorts of bizarre plans now

Some short flowering pollen wouldn't go amiss on a small branch there

any plans for such?
Weedsmoker
Jan 22 2008, 11:53 AM
WOW!!!!
Never thought of that....what a great idea!!!!
Keep us posted how it goes!!!
Thanks dude!!
rSc
Jan 22 2008, 11:56 AM
very very nice use of space mate, an inspiration to us all
rSc
billious
Jan 22 2008, 12:19 PM
Thanks for all the comments everyone, its not letting them show thier full potential but they look like they will finish anyway
QUOTE(Dr Benways Assistant @ Jan 22 2008, 11:01 AM)

Most excellent. Got me making all sorts of bizarre plans now

Some short flowering pollen wouldn't go amiss on a small branch there

any plans for such?
not got any males or pollen but its a good idea! Thing that strikes me about this is as a pure sativa germinates, grows and dies in 12/12 in the wild then some of the vegging and repotting rules maybe don't need to be as strictly applied? Sexing was easy and the root growth strong regardless that there was no conventional veg period. I think I will try some sativas 12/12 only cuts although that is maybe just pushing it too far
felix_dzerjinski
Jan 22 2008, 12:38 PM
That's one of the most inovative uses of space I have seen in a while, nice job Billious

The netting to hold them up is a really good idea.
Nice work.
jiffa
Jan 22 2008, 05:27 PM
thats top notch m8 brilliant
Harlin
Jan 22 2008, 09:30 PM
Thats seriously cool!!!
Well done, dude! *Claps*
Wicked, a cannabis climber.
Oh now you got me thinking
Noam
Jan 23 2008, 05:14 AM
QUALITY

truly great to see
unless

this is the deadly killer skunk that has spread across the media/world
keep up the inspirational hobby billious
billious
Jan 24 2008, 11:19 AM
Noam even if it was killer skunk its OK as I got it caged! Just thought I'd post another pic, sorry its only a partial shot but the light intensity wrecks the image if I open the door anymore
Click to view attachment
withnail
Jan 24 2008, 11:53 AM
Very nice work Billious.
I too am a loft grower with little height so its really interesting to see what you've done.
And they say stoners don't think
water
Jan 24 2008, 07:20 PM
never seen nothin like it
quality
well done bilious
Lazlo Woodbine
Jan 24 2008, 07:27 PM
Lovely job billious .....
Excellent use of space...
Laz
billious
Jan 24 2008, 08:43 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone.... I reckon although its great to see the Haze birth, grow and die in 12/12 it would maybe be more controlled with clones?
The other question I have is reveg..... as they can live quite happily in 12/12 all their lives will they also reveg in 12/12 without issue, already know the roots grow in 12/12 so could you harvest, shave the root ball aka OT1's mum routine, add fresh the compost, and just leave it insitu to regrow and rebud....... worth a try maybe?
billious
Feb 5 2008, 08:54 PM
Hi all, thought I'd update with new pics.... another 12 days and the haze have stretched a bit more but the buds are looking like they are starting to fill a bit!?
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment136 days now from seed btw maybe someone with haze experience could guess how far off these are now? I'm guessing 5 weeks still?
notts.pots
Feb 5 2008, 09:18 PM
hello mate, that is some good use of space.
Do you ever let them down to give the backs abit of air?, because i imagine there wouldnt be much circulation around there but i bet you've already thought about it

keep up the creativity, good luck with everything

N.P
billious
Feb 11 2008, 02:48 PM
Thanks for the help N.P! I do have fans aimed straight up into the canopy to try and keep all the air moving but its still an unknown. I can't let them down for a breather though as I'd never get the weight back up anymore I reckon
QUOTE(billious @ Jan 22 2008, 12:19 PM)

I think I will try some sativas 12/12 only cuts although that is maybe just pushing it too far 
I did try full flower 12/12 cuts and raised them in 12/12 and they took no problem! Heres a link to a post
HERE with pics. Its a bit odd looking but it is just a bud with roots!
So these ladies at least don't need anything but 12/12 for the whole life cycle it seems
Marcos
Feb 20 2008, 06:29 PM
sativa madness
billious
Mar 1 2008, 04:59 PM
Hi all, the Haze are on their own now as of this morning but in the last 160 days they haven't really hindered the other shorter flower plants. I've decided to let them finish on their own now though as they are still stretching and have been trying to invade the rest of the room for months, let them finish in style is the idea!
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentHopefully they will fill out, there is loads of bud but its still on the wispy side. I have also treated some buds with White Russian pollen for the hell of it.
Anybody got any ideas on how the encourage finishing and reduce further stretching? I was thinking of altering the photo period but some advice would be good as its a bit far in for experimenting now!
billious
Mar 4 2008, 09:18 PM
following everyones advice on how to bring these on to finish I have lowered the light period (thanks!

). Heres some more photos using a better camera:
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment
tsk
Mar 19 2008, 02:49 PM

that last picture is just mental

brilliant stuff b.
Herbal Kint
Mar 19 2008, 03:24 PM
nice style man wall seems cool
billious
Mar 19 2008, 09:51 PM
Thanks tsk and HK, want them to finish now though, they did their own thing without getting in the way of shorter period hybrids and indica's which was fine and I pulled in plenty of variety over the last 6 months but they need to finish now and die, as I can't wait much longer to try them!
billious
Mar 22 2008, 07:24 PM
If I was my Haze tonight I would be very worried! I checked the trichs and they are mostly milky with some amber and some clear, so its
DEATH TIME!..... Going to dry them insitu on the vine as all the buds are interwined and caught in the netting. Managed to cut a lower bud out for early sampling, here's a photo
Click to view attachmentThis one is about 2.5 foot and it looks as if they all have grown to that sort of lenght give or take if you ignore all the splindly runners, not sure how many there are though 20-30 ish by the look. They didn't fill out as I'd have liked, but I'm not sure how much of this is strain defined and how much is down to me!
Noam
Mar 22 2008, 07:37 PM
for most peeps that is dead space, so i would say excellent job

enjoy the rewards
billious
Mar 22 2008, 11:02 PM
QUOTE(Noam @ Mar 22 2008, 07:37 PM)

for most peeps that is dead space, so i would say excellent job

enjoy the rewards

cheers M8! Shame is "wall" of green quickly became wall + ceiling of green with my height challenged grow room
BUDBHOY01
Mar 30 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE(billious @ Jan 22 2008, 12:31 AM)

Hi all, I wanted to grow Haze but they take so long and I have a low growroom so even sativa-ish plants are difficult for me as they have to be bent a lot and take up too much space/time. So I popped some Haze seeds in the 12/12 flower room and they have been in there for 4 months now. Once they sexed I trained the 4 remaining up the side of the growroom and eventually put them behind a net. They have been potted up right through with no probs and I've pulled three staged crops without them getting in the way, had to move my cooltubes though as they are suicidal! Anyway here's a photo, its a compomise but I'll still get something smokable in a month or two....
Click to view attachmentThe haze is on the right

That space wasn,t getting used anyway i used to have the same problem until i got a budbox now i have 4*NL5*HAZE in N.F.T & 2 PUKKA SKUNK but m8 you,re doing the right thing use all the space & light up GOODLUCK M8 BUDBHOY01 I hope i typed this in the right place it,s my reply

Time
Korgan
Apr 26 2008, 09:52 AM
How does keeping it 12/12 affect the length of time until harvest? How much shorter is veg time with this schedule?
billious
Apr 26 2008, 11:09 AM
I wouldn't say that 12/12 from birth brings them on quicker if anything they may be slower as they get up to 1/2 the energy over any given veg period.... I did this to maximise grow room space and bring in a very long flowering crop I wanted to try without stopping growing my normal selection
A Puffin
Aug 25 2008, 05:39 PM
QUOTE(billious @ Apr 26 2008, 12:09 PM)

I wouldn't say that 12/12 from birth brings them on quicker if anything they may be slower as they get up to 1/2 the energy over any given veg period.... I did this to maximise grow room space and bring in a very long flowering crop I wanted to try without stopping growing my normal selection
Any chance of a smoke report?
billious
Aug 25 2008, 06:10 PM
Looks like nothing really, very fluffy and you certainly couldn't sell it if you were so inclined

Saying that though its a nice smoke very soary, doesn't seem to have a ceiling if you know what I mean... just seems to dislocate the mind sideways rather knock you out if that makes sense..... its weak in comparison with other stuff it grew with it though so you need a few more tokes. I made hash and got a soft black, I made chocolates as well using haze cannabutter.... F**K! classic self dosing problem forgot to let them kick in before taking more, which is stupid as I did the same with the butter and couldn't remember a thing the next day
I wouldn't recommend it though, too long flowering, and although it yeilded well (I still have a box full), it only yielded fluff!
Blayz'd
Aug 25 2008, 10:18 PM
I like that

Echo all the statements about using the space well. Nice one.
Budo
Aug 31 2008, 10:39 PM
sorry im confused

you planted a haze seed straight int 12/12 and it took 4 months ?? :S
sorry if i misread something?
so what would happen if you planted a indica like a white rhino into 12/12, you think you would gte anything??
or is it all about the haze ?
thanks
billious
Sep 1 2008, 05:55 PM
Hi, Budo, you read right... 12/12 from seed to harvest nearly 6 months later. Think its pretty much an tropical sativa thing though as close to the equator its more or less 12/12 all year, thats not to say they they don't veg well in 24/0, etc, thats just not what I did with this one as I needed to continuosly flower off indicas and hybrids while the haze very slowly grew. I think white rhino would need normal 18/6 - 24/0 vegging to get any kind of yield, read somewhere on here a thread about flipping really early into flower but that was cuts and unless you have severe height issues I don't see the point myself.
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