i heard talk a while ago of a true monster strain that grows to massive proportions, has anyone ever heard about it or was i being bullshitted?

i really hope its true tho, just imagine crossing one with some proper dank and ending up with a whole tree of bud, especially for US med users or the dutch

any strain could be grown to a monster sized plant.

All you need is plenty of room and LOTS of veg time

T1

EDIT: obviously not an autoflowerer, as they will flower regardless of the length of the daylight hours.

Try a plant outside this year and see how it grows... They get ridiculously big .... If done properly

i know normal strains will grow big with the right conditions, but i heard about a strain that is known primarily for growing huge. i cant for the life of me remember what its called, elephant something something i think.

big bud, donkey dick, pure sativas with 100 days veg stank

powerplant has the potential to be maaahoooosive if you veg it for long enough

i mean outdoors, i havnt seen any photos of anything over 4m, maybe it isnt real but i live in hope

Big Foot from subcool seeds get's pretty huge.

The monster strains you have probably heard of are Big Bud and Peak 19 - at least in terms of yield. The smoke is likely to be on the bland side tho...

big foot seems like a big bugger, but i dont think its what im thinkin of.

oh well nevermind

in terms of height im on about

Go into any jungle near Thailand and you can find cannabis trees 20-25ft tall...

In a warmer climate, many sativas can reach 20 ft tall. The growing season is too short in this climate to get a monster that big. I once grew some bagseed many years ago and just let them grow by the window. The male grew so big after 3 months that I had to chop it several times to stop it from hitting the 9 ft ceiling. That's about 8 ft if you minus the roots. It would probably have grown to 12 ft if I hadn't had to keep chopping it. Just from the light of an east facing window. Imagine what it would have grown to if it hadn't been restricted in a 2 gallon pot and had been grown all year in a tropical garden.

it just so happens im visiting the thai-burmese border region this year, maybe i'll see some.

is there much thai in the western cannabis gene pool?

yes

Voodoo from dutch passion is from thai parents. I had an oz of voodoo buds about 5 years ago and it had a really weird yet enjoyable taste. I've never tasted anything quite like it. I'd say that the name voodoo actually suits how it smells and tastes, other wordly but very nice. I'll never forget it. It's an outdoor strain by the way.

mmm id love to climb that tree

Biffo, you aren't thinking of elephant weed by any chance are you? That was from Hawaii. It was undoubtedly originally from south east asia, brought by settlers long ago. Probably weed of thai, vietnamese, malaysian or indonesian ancestry. The sativas from this region often grow so tall because it's covered in dense jungle, where only the tallest and fastest growing plants and trees survive by competing for their share of the canopy light.

If elephant weed from Hawaii isn't what you're talking about then I don't know what is. It's the only thing that I've heard of that grows huge and that is named after the elephant.

sounds like the typical strain hype bollox to me

there are plenty of big high yielding strains out there

Ofcourse there are. Several sativas from jungle regions can grow to 20 feet. What good that is in a country like this, I don't know. They'd never reach that height in our short growing season, they'd probably not finish flowering either. Better to go for early sats like durban poison.

¿Elephantiasis?

It makes you wonder though, doesn't it? Just how big could a tropical sativa get if you grew it all year in a giant greenhouse and stopped it from flowering between autumn and spring with the use of a few, small light bulbs at night? Just as mother plants can be kept for several years, one could keep a giant tree vegging for years in a giant greenhouse. I wonder at what point it would stop getting any bigger. You can imagine the right sativa reaching well over 30 ft in those circumstances. Ofcourse, no professional grower would bother doing it because it wouldn't make any financial sense. Maybe a hobby grower in Holland, Switzerland or Canada would try it if they had a mahooosive greenhouse, just for a bit of fun.

What are you lot on about?

Your so called Elephant strain has to be grown for what,6 months veg and 4 months flower so that can't be done outdoors in Hawaii as you can get 2 crops per year growing in their tropical photoperiod can't you?

So this mega girl could only happen with 6 months veg which you can't get at that latitude never mind anywhere else on the planet.

Thai is not planted beneath the jungle canopy fullstop.

True jungle allows 3% of sunlight to reach the jungle floor, go figure?

Give anybody 6 months veg and planting out and you'll get a 20 footer of Durban Poison,Hollands Hope,Jack Herer,you name the strain,anybody with even no 'gigantic' genes can get a 20 foot plant with adequate veg time in Europe,never mind the tropics.

I'll reply later Dr. It's 5:11am and I need to go to bed.

Ok bro look forward to it.

Ofcourse you can get 6 months of veg in Hawaii mate. Hawaii is aprox. 20° north, where daylight hours are sufficiently above 12 hours between april and september. The strains from around that region are very sensative to photoperiod, just a few minutes difference in photoperiod dictates whether such strains will veg or flower. You can even get 6 months of veg at 10° north/south with a regional strain. You can only get two crops a year from that region if you bring in genetics from considerably further latitudes that are happy to flower when the photoperiod is well above 12/12. Strains from around the region will only flower once in the year and will veg for a good 6 months.

Check out the table below to see the length of day during the year at different latitudes. The closer to the equator you get, the more sensative a regional strain will be to changes in photoperiod because of the fact that day lengths change less throughout the year.

http://encarta.msn.com/media_701500905/hou...titude.html#rev



That's correct, I don't know who stated that. It certainly wasn't me. No one with any common sense would plant their crop under the jungle canopy. You select a large opening where it's bright to plant your crop.



That's not to say that the largest and quickest growing sativas don't come from dense jungle regions. Infact, it is precisely because of this premium of light under the canopy that you find the largest and quickest growing strains in that region. As soon as a tropical typhoon, turmites or old age brings down a tree in the jungle, the race is on for all of the vegetation below to grow upwards and overshadow it's neighbours. Only the fastest and largest sativas will make it.



That's right mate. Most strains will grow massive with enough veg time. However, the original question was which strain grows the largest, not which strains can grow large. Let's presume that he meant which strain will grow the largest outdoors, without the use of a giant green house or supplementary lighting. In which case, it would be a tropical sativa because it would grow the fastest in the alotted veg time and stretch the most in the alloted flowering time.

However, if one was to use a giant greenhouse with supplementary light to hault flowering, the answer is far less clear. In such an instance, the tropical sativa might grow fastest but once it reaches it's maximum height, there may be other strains that will continue growing and catch up. The proverbial tortoise and hare scenario. In a natural environment, the largest strain will be a tropical sativa in a tropical region. Which tropical sativa grows the largest of them all, I cannot say. Elephant weed is as good a name as any other.

Anyhow, I hope that I've helped to answer some of your questions. I'm off for a slice of canna marzipan.

I'm editting that table, it's fucked.

ETA: I had to delete the table because it wouldn't paste without screwing up the allignment. You'll have to settle for a link to the table instead.

Nice one Gunnaknow,a very interesting post I've learnt summink in and am feeling a wee bit chastised!

I've got an eyestrain headache atm but will come back to this tomorrow to comment on individual points just can't think straight atm

Sorry mate, I think that I might have brought on your eye strain and headache. I somehow copied everything twice in my post by mistake. It must have been a strain to read. It's corrected now.

Oh and I didn't mean to make you feel chastised. I certainly don't consider myself a leading authority on the topic. I've probably just spent more time reading and thinking about it because I've got nothing better to do.

Not thinking of 'Kong' perhaps?

If so ...Darkside's yer man .....



Laz

Perennials are non-woody plants that live for two or more years. most are herbaceous, dying back in autumn to ground level, some to a woody base, and sending up new growth in spring.

The term "annual" describes a plant whose entire lifecycle, from germination to seed production through to death, takes place within one year.

Those that are able to withstand frost are known as hardy annuals.

"Biennials", however, require two growing seasons. During their first season after sowing they produce leaf growth; they then over winter and flower the following year.

same here mate. I haven't climbed a good tree in a while ;-)

Ok girls and guys, heres one that may come as a surprise. But my friend who when it comes to growing is very wise.
So have a look but try not to stare , This ones called "Nigerian Nightmare!!".

nigerian nightmare

The tree grew wide, very tall and long. The colas were the size of donkey dongs. He said the smoke was extremely classy. Sweet hints of chocolate and after taste hashy.

So if what he says is true or not, I guess it can all depend. All I know is 'Nigerian Nightmare is a marijuanna legend.

Dopedog, I used to have that NN pic as my screen saver.

By the way people, Nigerian Nightmare is meant to have phenos that are extremely photoperiod sensitive that can be shocked into very early flowering, if you hold them at 24/0 for a few weeks and then put them straight outdoors when the day light length is <16 hours. It does require the photo period shock to do this though. It can be made to finish by mid august, or even earlier in this way. The later, less photoperiod sensitive phenos finish by around mid sept. Very impressive for a pure, or almost pure sativa. There's just one problem though; Reeferman don't sell it anymore.

hi m8 any ideas where you can get hold of seeds for these beasts

I'm sure that someone has some seeds knocking about, either here or on another forum but I wouldn't ask anyone on this forum for seeds as it's not allowed.

Hey Dopedog, you'll like these pics too. The first is Swazi x Thai, the second is unknown and the third pic was labelled as "Mullimby Madness....i think". I didn't add the "i think".

I think he must have meant Mullumbimby Madness. The original version was said to be from a thai strain grown in aus, called Old Mother Sativa. The very largest phenos were massive beasts that could allegedly reach 30 ft and yield 15lbs! Pretty much any pure sativa can reach huge proportions though, with the right conditions and enough time.

I know that this thread is old but I thought that I'd add another pic I found of a monster, so that I know where to find it, along with the others, if my computer crashes.

Apparently, kiwi seeds 2 pounder is a good outdoor strain. Not sure how well it would do in our climate though. Grew it indoors a few grows back and it produced real fat buds. The main cola on that was twice the size of my arm and the lower colas were all about the size of my arm. The environment wasn't up to much either. I like the nigerian nightmare tree pic floating around the net. Not sure if that strain is available though.

I agree with others though. If you grow a strain to be a tree and have the right climate, I think any strain can be a monster.

2pounder takes to long to finish outdoors but would be ok in a green house

peace out farmer boy

Agreed, it's grown on NZ North Island, which has a latitude of 34-41 S. That's basically the same as Spain, in terms of daylengths, although the climates are different. So it would be too late for outdoors here. TNR is also definately only one for the greenhouse, which is where KC Brains normally grows it I think. These would be good material for making a Guerilla Gold or Mighty Mite cross for outdoors though.

Yeah, dopedog posted that one in a post above but it's easy to miss because it's a link. I'll upload it here as a pic so that it isn't overlooked. It's a shame that Reeferman doesn't sell it anymore.

This plant was a clone-only strain grown in Australia, it's called feralocity or 'aussie big bud'.

Grown indoors under 2,200 watts, from 12/12 it would often finish just at or less than 6 weeks, and was 10 and a half weeks or so from being a tiny rootless cutting at harvest. I could pull off 8 or 10 crops in a year with that plant. That one bud was about a lb dry, several like it on the plant and plenty of medium buds. That plant produced every time, great genetics.

After forcing one to hermy to make seeds I could bring back over seas with me, I still haven't found a plant to match the yield of the mum.. quality of the stone, yes, sheer amount of yield, no, even with more watts, but it's been a few years since I tried in the same locale, could just be that Aus is just the easiest place for growing, all my strains turned out pretty massive there... maybe a mod can come in and resize this into a thumbnail, not sure how to do it myself

Fook me ive seen some plants but........

i had a super skunk tht went just over 12 foot once ,but that years october winds knocked the shit out of it!!alas the pics where on an old mobile phone tht i dont have anymore