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showgirl
Can someone explain to me this micro herd and organic growing.Do you have a micro herd if using chemical nutes. Just not up on this stuff Thanks Showgirl
Owderb
Have a look through this thread and the links in it wink.gif

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...l=herd&st=0

Owd
Dr Benways Assistant
This one has more good info on the fungi side of things. http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=101822
Davey Jones
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?s=&a...st&p=592323

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?s=&a...st&p=871657

Another couple on feeding and maitaining the microherd

Davey Jones
QUOTE(showgirl @ Jan 12 2008, 11:28 PM) *
Can someone explain to me this micro herd and organic growing.Do you have a micro herd if using chemical nutes. Just not up on this stuff Thanks Showgirl




the micro herd is what we call collectively, all the bacteria and fungi in our pot, they break down organic matter and make it available to plants, they prevent disease by killing pathogenic fugi (The bad guys!) they do all sorts now some chemical ferts kill the microherd.

EM2
Davey Jones
Heres somethig I foud on the interet that might help you showgirl



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What are mycorrhiza?
Mycorrhizal fungi are a group of soil fungi that infect the roots of most plants. The fungi is not a pest or parasite as it supplies the plant with nutrients like phosphorus, copper and zinc, as well as increasing water availability. The plant supports the fungus with carbon in the form of sugars. This symbiotic relationship does not affect the plants, as they produce excess carbon. In fact, lack of water and nutrients is more often the limiting factor to plants’ growth and establishment. Mycorrhizal fungi are found in most environments, although their importance is greater in more extreme environments, where nutrients and water may be limited. There are very few plants that do not form mycorrhizal associations at all, although most can grow without it. In plants that have been infected by mycorrhizal fungi, the fungus is actually the chief method of nutrient uptake, not the roots.

There are several types of mycorrhiza, the type that we are interested in are by far the most common and are called arbuscular mycorrhiza (AM). This type of mycorrhiza is invisible to the naked eye but forms a fine mesh through the soil. They enter the cells of the roots where they form branched arbuscles within these cells, this is where the exchange of nutrients and carbon occurs.

Arbuscule
Thanks showgirl for raising this

It's a live topic for everyone cos as I understand it our collective knowledge around the 'microherd' is advancing all the time

Amazing little fungi even made land-life on earth possible, evolving along with the plants. I look at my little pack of Rootgrow and get amazed at life guitar.gif

I only heard of this stuff last year and it's got me fascinated - the people on 420, especially in the Organic Forum have opened my eyes to so much

Arbuscule
showgirl
QUOTE(Arbuscule @ Jan 13 2008, 05:10 PM) *
Thanks showgirl for raising this

It's a live topic for everyone cos as I understand it our collective knowledge around the 'microherd' is advancing all the time

Amazing little fungi even made land-life on earth possible, evolving along with the plants. I look at my little pack of Rootgrow and get amazed at life guitar.gif

I only heard of this stuff last year and it's got me fascinated - the people on 420, especially in the Organic Forum have opened my eyes to so much

Arbuscule

I agree and your quitar is in tune:) Showgirl
notts.pots
any1 used or know anything about this piranha stuff from advanced nutes?
felix_dzerjinski
They don't disclose what species are in there and it's a little over priced but otherwise does a fair job
showgirl
Ok now we got this micro herd down in the soil galluping all around as as lively as hell working away,Great.Now what do humans do to unknowingly kill of this herd.Chemical ferts??
Bish
Yes!

Threads merged - no need for another thread sg.
notts.pots
i went down to the local hydro shop yesterday to pick up some root grow, but they only had this root1 stuff does anybody know if its in any way the same?. also got some trichoderma.
N.P
hairy face
QUOTE(felix_dzerjinski @ Jan 14 2008, 10:38 AM) *
They don't disclose what species are in there

From one website:
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Piranha contains

EctoMycorrhiza:
Pt (Pisolithus)
Rhizopogon amylopogon
Rhizopogon Villosuli
Rhizopogon fulvigelba
Rhizopogon luteolus
Laccaria laccata
Laccaria bicolor
Scleroderma cepa
Scleroderma citrinum
Pisolithus tunctorius

EndoMycorrhiza:
Glomus mosseae
Glomus intraradices
Glomus clarum
Glomus monsporus
Glomus deserticola
Glomus brasilianum
Glomus aggregatum
Gigaspora margarita

Trichoderma:
Trichoderma polysporum
Trichoderma imbricatum
Trichoderma pardinum
Trichoderma zelleni
Trichoderma flavouirens
Trichoderma harzianum
Trichoderma koningii
Trichoderma viride
Davey Jones
Such a tempting list whistling.gif

All in one product

I am being blagged here, hope someone comes soon, to talk me out of the ridiculous price tag
felix_dzerjinski
Don't ecto mycorrhizas only form symbiosis with trees, or is it endo unsure.gif

One thing about having all those trichodermas in with the AM's is that if they do turn out to be hostile to each other then likely they end up wiping each other out starwars.gif

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