Well,I did touch on this point a while back due to taste testing my Afghan grow along with a bagseed that turned out tremendous thank God because from what I can come up with, it's all I'll have to smoke because this Afghani is the shits and I'm being polite.The smell is bad,I can't smoke enough to find out if it's any good,which someone told me all it did was make his chest sore. In my pic #'s 1-5 #1 I feel would be the most potent if ya go by bud form and amount of crystals,but if you smell it the only thing I can compare it to would be a strong soap smell and as I say smokes badddd.
I don't think I'm paranoid here when I say this stuff the seed bank charged 25 ureos for is nothing but garbage and it cost me a lot to run 1000hps for 4 months and I thought I did my homework before ordering. Now I have Light of Jah seeds @ 90euros which states Jack Herer at the end of seed strain description and also was recommended to me and then I had to fight with them to recieve after 2 months.I must say I felt lucky to get my l of j seeds but now who knows. they are 4 days old rite now. I wonder what kind of F#$%^& up plants I'll have from them!!!
I need to vent and maybe my expieriance may help some other poor sucker.
What to do now?? 1) invest more money on bubblebags
2) water cure the lot
3) heave and get it from the street
4) suffer until next harvest
5) aquire reliable seedbank for next harvest
6) guit

Anyway,I'm feeling pretty dejected after all that work and all for nothing,really.Post away Showgirl

I know the buds look lovely but. The 2 in the front are iether hermies or we're pollinated.The bagseed plant grew great and smokes and taste like real weed not this.Good name for it would be "ragweed"

thats unfortunate shogirl , i think the problem is what somebody pointed out on another topic of yours about that very leafy plant. there's a poor bud to leaf ratio prbly b/c of high N. if the bud and whole plant is too leafy not many trichomes form and the ones that do form don't have much THC b/c they're not getting a lot of direct light. what nutrients did you use?

i think i agree w/ brad about the 1000 wt hps. i like smaller lights cause you can get em closer to your plants without burning them and they save electricity. more efficient all around.

i wouldn't invest in bubblebags since you've dumped a lot of money into this grow already and bubblebags aint cheap but i definitely wouldn't ditch the weed. there are free ways to make water hash, and i prefer keef to water hash anyway. i would invest in a keef box or a screen to make your own box, screen is like $10 and box no more than $30. when you run the weed through the box a couple times, you take whats left over and oil it. i did just that in the link in my sig. oil's easy to make. just need butane and an old coffee pot or isopropyl. gl

Have you cured it ?

May get better once cured, if you haven't.

I here you but that was 2 plants the other 3 especially one has all kinds of crystals but smells wierd and they didn't leaf up like those two.They were close as you can get to the hps lots of bud sites feed fish emulsion and sea weed the same as the good bagseed so it has to be these seeds, I'm sure. Not me as most seem to infure.I wish I find someone who relates to what I am saying here. I have 3 clones of the worst of the lot,and I hesitate to set someone else up for disapointment by passing on my clones.I'll bury the bastards and sterilize my growroom for fear of an afghani infestation.Sombody on here said that it smells like dog ----.I don't know if he was just joking but he is absolutely right in my case at least!! Shogirl

Naw ,I was hoping. Geeze don't they say you can practually smoke sensimillia right away anyway.Smoke this right away will kill ya!! Showgirl

Now here is a pic of the good stuff.

This is not true - all weed does better with a good curing.

Practically all weed, even the knock-out stuff, needs careful drying and at least minimal curing else it tastes/smells like grass or hay, and the stone from it is crap.

Sorry, but that's just not true at all. Some hash plants are very leafy, as it makes for easier and more fruitful seiving for hash. In fact, they have probably been selectively bred for this trait over centuries.
I have had hi-leaf plants that hardly had any real "colas:, just leafy columns, but they were well frosted and the hit was fine.


"they" are entirely incorrect. All good sensi needs careful slow drying and proper curing to develop all its aromas and tastes, as well as high.

Just to say, sorry your crop didn't turn out right this time round SG - it's all part of the learning experience I suppose. As for the light, as far as I know, the predicted yield listed for indoor grows on seedbanks' websites etc, are typically under 600 watt lamps, which many recommend as providing a good input/output ratio, ie - it's economic and provides a decent amount. Also, as far as I'm aware, a 600 wt lamp covers the same area as a 1,000 watt, ie 1.5m sq approx. I'm having to burn a 600 and a 400 atm, so I know they can drink some juice from the meter, costing us about £30 a week inc normal household atm (though a mate has kindly offered to have a friend of his reduce that considerably with just one length of wire and a few minor adjustments - ). Most, if not all of my plants are seeded at the minute, I'm only on my 2nd grow, my 1st in pots, so have a lot to learn yet, which is why I've very grateful for UK420.

I also wasted £75 on seeds last year, but tbh the seedbank in question does have some other strains I'd be interested in, but having so many others to choose from, it'll be a while before I go back to try them and perhaps when I'm feeling a bit more confident and hopefully am a lot more competent. My philosophy is, the money's gone, the seeds were fucked, by whatever cause, I'm still here and tomorrow's another day. Just say to yourself, "Fuck it, it doesn't matter, I'll just grow something else - there's plenty to choose from." If there's one thing I've learned so far, it's that expensive seeds don't always equal quality plants (especially in my care). Would recommend you try curing some though - apparently it does make a world of difference to the smoke. I intend to keep some this time long enough to try it too.

Showgirl

Looks similar to the street weed round here

Sorry for the insult haha

Think this is Afghani variety, very strong, very harsh...

Old photo though haha

Looks lovely

the ones that were pollenated would have stopped creating THC and turned their energy to seed production, so that may explain why some of it aint that strong.

give it all a 4 week cure and see what its like after that

T1

Seeded bud has a nasty taste to it too, unfortunately

Curing will deffo help - I reckon it takes about 3 months to cure out properly properly, by that I mean the taste, high and feel of the bud 'level out' after 3 months or so.

Anyways it's all a learning curve - if you're dissappointed with this one why not try a smaller light/ smaller grow to get your eye in first - find a plant that suits you then grow that one out in a larger set-up when you feel more comfortable with that plants specific needs

I've just spent the last year growing one clone line and it was loads of fun - you become intimately aquainted with how your particular variety grows - all very zen!

Bonsai B

I never cure anything.

then you're missing out IMO

Not just your opinion buddy, it's fact

Admittedly, it's tempting if you have no weed to smoke un-cured & admittedly it might work some. But curing ads everything to the smoke, do it if you can, you won't regret it

Sorry to hear about your harvest Showgirl, I'm just glad for you that you at least have some good smoke.

I recon rogue seeds are the cause of your runt plant though

are you sure you are feeding them right, my first few grows tasted like shit because of overfeeding etc, it was always really harsh and twangy, but now i love it
just bear with it for a few more grows and im sure you will crack it

fair comment but smoking it straight away shouldn't give the symptoms showgirl describes.
i'd put it down to experience and grow a recommended strain to build my confidence.
keep going showgirl, it gets easier with each grow.

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Poor plants, heh

How long were the plants flowered for?

That pic sure looks like my Afghani but mine had a little less crystals.Definetly harsh.Showgirl

I see what you are infuring and as I said beginner mistakes on "ALL" my plants. Including the bagseed plant that had it's trouble and turned out to yield and I swear at least 5 ounces dry and it is some of the best smoke I had in recent years.research tells me it was Power Plant and I couldn't be more satisfied with it. Accept it there are unsrcupulus seed sellers and people out there who just don't get the true value of honesty. I know now where to get my seeds and where not to get them. Showgirl

The plants went the full flower periods,pp and clones also.The Afghani plants grew like crasy,especially the 2 herms about 4 feet tall main cola on one was the size of a old quart bottle but never turned out and those 2 smell like hay.Maybe it's hemp!!Anyway I noticed that the stems from the Afghans are really hollow inside not like the pp stems which were solid.Anyone ever take notice of the structure of the plant main stem after harvest..Just reaching for straws on these f---up plants,seeds Thanks Showgirl

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Poor plants, heh


I see what you are infuring and as I said beginner mistakes on "ALL" my plants. Including the bagseed plant that had it's trouble and turned out to yield and I swear at least 5 ounces dry and it is some of the best smoke I had in recent years.research tells me it was Power Plant and I couldn't be more satisfied with it. Accept it there are unsrcupulus seed sellers and people out there who just don't get the true value of honesty. I know now where to get my seeds and where not to get them. Showgirl


The plants went the full flower periods,pp and clones also.The Afghani plants grew like crasy,especially the 2 herms about 4 feet tall main cola on one was the size of a old quart bottle but never turned out and those 2 smell like hay.Maybe it's hemp!!Anyway I noticed that the stems from the Afghans are really hollow inside not like the pp stems which were solid.Anyone ever take notice of the structure of the plant main stem after harvest..Just reaching for straws on these f---up plants,seeds Thanks Showgirl

Was it your first grow showgirl? I'd have been over the moon with 5 oz of good weed from my first.

For most folk it's a steep learning curve, when you see noobs with amazing 1st grows it's the exception to the rule. Learn from any mistakes but don't dwell on them.

Now you've got a strain you know you like and yields well your next grow will be much better.

Best of luck.

e2a: a lot of plants have hollow stems and hay is what weed smells like before the cure generally.

Thanks Dr. i guess i can't get past the thought that why would these seed sellers sell you something like this when you see how many seeds a fertilized plant will produce. Maybe they haven't any good seeds at all I guess. I just made a bad choice iether of strain or company and now it is time to move on.I still have an attachment to this company with Light of Jah seeds so it will be interesting to see how they turn out but I'll go easy on the 1000hps.I emailed the company an update on the Afghani so it again will be interesting to see what the responce back will.we'll see.Ok doc,I'll take an aspiron and have a lay down.hehehe Showgirl

I think it's likely they just reacted differently to their conditions to your other plant(s). Different strains put up with different levels of stress.

Glad you got something nice out of it anyway!

Thanks eri,Geeze,Maybe it was that foolish fancy foil wrapping paper that screwed them all up but I doubt it but then again it's coming down and back to white walls or mylar.hehe.Ya least I got something and I grew it myself which still amazes me.It's a cool hoppy for sure.Showgirl

Sorry to hear of dissapointment showgirl, i honestly think your main problem was over feeding, i know members have pointed out to you the virtues of a good cure and i agree it will improve if you do this, but again i would be tempted to invest in some good organic ferts for the next grow so much more forgiving if you over do it, try some bio grow and bloom, most peeps get very good results from this , are they available in the states ?
Rj

Thanks for your comments but I'll have to say it again,I agree I overfeed,I mixed chemical ferts with organic ferts,I overwater and underwatered but all in all everything grew and my bagseed turned into best smoke in years and you give me good seeds and I'll show you how to grow even better next time.When a company mails you shit seeds you plant,you get shit weed, simple Thanks Again Showgirl

phenotypes ,one of the reason we grow from clones,, some strains can throw out a few phenos, and just like you get your "keeper" phenos you also get proper shit ones . can i just say this though, i had sum from my last grow was rank,couldnt smoke it smelt like dogshit n everything,,i nearly binned it but after a couple of months curing it was a luvely smoke with no shit smell

try growing a few girls , keep ya best one and clone,clone,clone

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