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bazza82
Happy New Year All cheers.gif ,
I've started off with 5 Biddy's Sister and 5 Biddy Early, germing them the usual way - in wet paper towel which in turn gets put in the cupboard where the boiler is, seem to get results quick this way with it being a nice tempreture in there (touches wood).
The medium this time is Bio Bizz All Mix which i'll be adding an extra 33% perlite for the first pot up then once the roots have outgrown their pots it'll be neat All Mix from then onwards
Nutes again are Bio Bizz Grow and Bloom and i've still to decide wheather to try either Topmax or Heaven
Using the same Powerplant 400w but this time i'll have a MH Bulb for it as well as a HPS Bulb idea.gif
Fingers crossed the first of the seeds will crack within the next couple of days so i can get the Diary started thumbsup.gif
Peace
Baz yinyang.gif
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Gom Jibbar
Was considering these for an outdoor grow. Are they not normally an outdoor variety?

Good luck smile.gif
dr rockster

All the best with your Magus double grow,doing the same funnily enough! rofl.gif

Hafta ask Gerrit how he came by the 'Biddy' name?
tsk
can i type faster than rockster whom i see replying already?

Nice one Bazza! i got 5 of the biddys sister ma self from a kind geezer out grow shop and i shant be planting them now till ive seen how you fair. sounds like you are using identical kit to me there and abouts. all the best with yer first grow of 2008 Baz!!

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e2a - never faster than that fiery fingered doctor...
Dr Benways Assistant
Think I'll join in too then. Germed a some biddy's sister a week or two ago and they're the best looking of the lot so far

Biddy United!
Archipelago
hi there bazza mate

thems some lurvley lookin seeds there my friend

im sure you"ll do em well

all the best

phil yinyang.gif
TightBud
be good to watch bazza thumbsup.gif
got biddy early and biddy sister here to try myself in the next coupla months

good luck mate
notts.pots
lol.gif my biddys will be gettin germed in the next couple of weeks. all the best with the grows every1, i want to see some big fat sparkley buds so i know what ive got to look foward to thanks again to joolz and gerrit for the seeds. good luck every1.
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Gerrit
Hi Bazza,

Good luck, it will be nice to see them side by side.

@ Gom, suitable for outdoor does not have to be unsuitable for indoors at the same time wink.gif

@ Dr. Rockster, I've named the Biddy Early after an Irish legend, see cut and paste below.
I thought it was appropriate since she was just a herbs lady that got prosecuted for witchcraft in the old age because people where afraid for things they could not understand, nothing changed much since huh?
Also, the name of a witch fits well next to Warlock and Magus, I wonder if there are any Irish members among us that know about the legend of Biddy Early.
Especially the first verse of the song makes a perfect fit to "Mary" i.m.o.

THE LEGEND OF BIDDY EARLY - WITCH OR WISE WOMAN OF CLARE?
by Mary Mullins
Biddy Early was a well known figure in County Clare in times past. - in Kilbarron, Clare, the tales of Biddy Early are still told. Born Bridget Ellen Connors in lower Faha in 1798, the daughter of John Thomas Connors and Ellen Early, she married four times but was always known by her mother's maiden name, because it was believed that her gifts were inherited through the female line. She is said to have been a witch, with her cures and potions but perhaps she was a woman before her time just dabbling in herbal medicine.

Dromore Lake
Biddy married four times and her final home was in a cottage on Dromore Hill, overlooking a lake which became known as Biddy Early's Lake. This home in Kilbarron is identified with Biddy 'The Healer', 'The Wise Woman', 'The Witch'. There are many stories of the opposition of the clergy, and in 1865 she was in Ennis charged with witchcraft under the 1586 statute. The case was dismissed 'due to lack of sufficient evidence against the accused'; those who were to give evidence remained strangely silent! She died in April 1874.
So well known as this woman that songs were written about her. Here's two verses from "The Ballad of Biddy Early":

I sing of Biddy Early, the wise woman of Clare.
Many's the man admires her carrot-colored hair,
and many those that come to her on horseback or by cart,
for she can heal a broken leg or a broken heart.

"She keeps a magic bottle in whose majestic eye
a tiny coffin twinkles and if it sinks, you die.
It rises, you grow better and slip out of pain.
It's time for bed," the tinker said, "but pass the cup again.

From "The Ballad of Biddy Early" by Nancy Willard; Knopf Publishing; ISBN: 0-394-88414-0; Out of Print


The reason I have chosen Biddy's Sister is rather simple, I've used the same mother but a different father hence Biddy's Sister.

Gerrit
dr rockster

Many thanks for the detailed answer about Biddy Early,Gerrit.

A choice of name that when explained does fit in rather nicely with the Warlock and Magus. sorcerer.gif
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Ay up Bazza

I'll keep a watchful eye on this one if you don't mind, got biddy early pencilled in as a possible outdoor grow next summer ph34r.gif

Hope all goes well for you mate, sure it will.

And nice name too gerrit, do like a name that has some meaning behind it thumbsup.gif
Bu
Be watching this one with interest...

Grown out Biddy Early and Biddy's Sister and I have to say that the Biddy Early was by far my fave. A lovely euphoric stone-completely positive always. Really slender Sativa-esque leaves and very open buddage, covered in sticky trichs, sweet on the nose with a very slightly earthy flavour...Beautiful!!

Only trouble was, (as warned in the bumph) that she was impossible to keep as a Mum without 24hr light and at the 18/6 regime in my Mum room she went mad, flowering for all she was worth.
She was lovely and I cried the day she went into the flower room to finish out. Ahh fond memories.

Will probably try another batch of 'Biddy Early' one day to see if I can get a lady with the same uplifting high that isn't so keen to autoflower.

Thanks for the background stuff Gerrit, Very interesting stuff!

Bu.
bazza82
Cheers every1 cheers.gif

A little update :

100% germ rate on both the 5 Biddy Earlys and the 5 Biddy's Sisters, they were then put into 3 inch pots with the All Mix and around 33 - 50% extra perlite, 4/5 Biddy's Sisters have broke the surface and 4/5 Biddy Earlys have broke the surface also, i can see the other 2 pushing the compost upwards so they should be up and going by tomorrow, will get a pic up tomorrow once the other 2 Biddys have shown, Baz yinyang.gif
bazza82
Hi All,

The last 2 seedlings came through this afternoon yahoo.gif , i've got them all under the usual ES Flourescents, i'll keep them under those until they're around 10-14 days old then they'll get put under the 400w MH guitar.gif

Gerrit i forgot to ask you at the start are these beans regular or feminised?, peace, Baz yinyang.gif

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Hi All,

The last 2 seedlings came through this afternoon yahoo.gif , i've got them all under the usual ES Flourescents, i'll keep them under those until they're around 10-14 days old then they'll get put under the 400w MH guitar.gif

Gerrit i forgot to ask you at the start are these beans regular or feminised?, peace, Baz yinyang.gif

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Congrats with the 100% Bazza, they are regular seeds, not feminised.

Gerrit
bazza82
Thanks Gerrit thumbsup.gif
Lennon
Hope there's room for a little'un.

Mine have just finished cracking and have been potted up.Didn't get 100% germinationm tho 3 outta 5 of both BS and BE they might of cracked in the end but I didnt want them to far behind my other little'uns so there in heaven now god rest there souls.

Watching with interest.
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bazza82
Hi Lennon,
sorry to hear a few never germed but hopefully the others turn out sweet for you man:yep:
All ten are up and doing fine, i thought i might of had probs with 1 of the Biddy's Sisters a few days ago as the shell of the seed had stayed wrapped around the leaves which made it look a dark purple / blackish colour but thankfully it's doing fine although a few days behind the rest now because of that ( the 1 front left)
they're all still under the flouro's but they'll all be getting put under the MH next week cool.gif , sorry not much to report just a couple of pics yinyang.gif
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Hashishin
Hey Bazza82 that Biddy Early is some good shit, I smoked it many a time spliff.gif Best of luck. wink.gif
bazza82
Hi Hardcore Toker,
what was the taste like on the Biddy Early?, i think i remember Gerrit describing it as a sweet candy sort of taste, really looking forward to them both thumbsup.gif
Update:

Sorry it's been a few days since updated the diaries, gonna update them every 3 days from now on yinyang.gif
The little un's are approx 14 days old (since they sprouted)most of the Biddy's Sister's have been showing purple colours on new growth since around day 7 onwards, as the new growth grows the purple slowly dissapears - it's really beautiful to look at cool.gif , i tried to get a macro shot of it through my cam, not got the best cam for those type of shots but managed to get a pretty clear close-up image (will post it within next couple of posts thumbsup.gif )
All plants (appart from 1 which is still under flouro's) have been under the MH for 3 days now, the difference in their appearance once they move from the flouro's to MH is unbelievable, the bottom leaves were struggling to get any light under the flouro's but a couple of days under the MH they're standing to attention, the roots have been growing very fast, it took me off guard a bit, i never noticed until a couple of leaves at the bottom were getting a tad lighter then noticed the pots were covered in roots, i've taken them out the grow room to get a group shot of them altogether, throughout the week that just passed 9/10 of the plants were transfered from their 3 inch pots into 6 inch pots in neat All Mix, the other 1 will join them tomorrow, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
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Sorry about the last pic - was a bit dark when i took the photo, i'll use the flash next thumbsup.gif , here is a look at 1 of the Biddy's Sister's, the purple colour is beauriful (i'll post the closer shot in next post) yinyang.gif , peace, Baz
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bazza82
Hopefully this pic isn't too small - just noticed it's only 79kb, peace, baz yinyang.gif
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Gerrit
They look well Bazza, I'm sure they will pick up speed from this point on.

It will be fun watching them compete, the Sister will probably outgrow the Early during veg but catch up in hight when flowering, we'll see.

Gerrit
bazza82
Hi Gerrit,
yeah i've seen a big difference in the few days they've been under the MH, growth rate has really picked up, i'm gonna make sure the other is put in beside them tomorrow as i don't want it to fall too far behind the others, really excited about seeing the purple at this early stage, is it possible for them to carry this colour all the way through or will it dissapear eventually?, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
Gerrit
Nope, the colour will not carry through but might return later if you let some cold air in.
I would not do that though, it would be trading yield and taste for aesthetics.

Gerrit
Dr Benways Assistant
Looking good Bazza. Love the colours, mine didn't carry on that far.
bazza82
Thanks Dr BA thumbsup.gif ,

Update:

over the last couple of days the purple colour on the B Sister's has slowly dissapeared yinyang.gif
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TightBud
nice mate all going well by the looks of things for you bazza
they look lush
good luck

(still got mine to pop here)
bazza82
Hi TB,
thanks man yinyang.gif , here are the 2 i'm left with due to space in the grow room - 1 Biddy's Sister + 1 Biddy Early in their final pots - 6.5l, i've basically felt like crap for the last week as i feel as though i've let Gerrit down as i can't grow out each plant to their full potential due to lack of space in the grow room but i've managed to save clones of the ones i couldn't keep sad.gif
Start of Day 2 of 12/12
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Pic of them in the grow room, i'm keeping them under the MH for the first week of flowering then change over to the HPS yinyang.gif
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Gerrit
Hi Bazza,

No need to feel bad, the seeds where given without "strings attached" so it's up to you what to do with them.
Just out of curiosity though, what happened that made you decide throwing out 8 from 10 before sexing?
Thinning out when you have more plants than space is a good idea, but I'll doubt that it's smart to do so before sex has shown.
Fingers crossed that they both end up female.

Gerrit
Gerrit
Hi Bazza,

After reading your post again I've noticed that you kept clones from all of them so nothing seems to be lost.
A good solution to cope with the lack of space in my view.

Gerrit
bazza82
Thanks Gerrit yinyang.gif
Now at the beggining of Day 7 of 12/12, really happy with how they're looking so far, almost 100% sure the Biddy's Sister is female, still not showing pistels yet but pretty sure its calyxs i see and not pollen sacks, the Biddy Early is showing sex now as well, 1 or 2 more days and i'll know for certain if it's male or famale, pretty sure it's calyxs i see appearing, when i've been using a HPS in the past all the way through veg + flowering the first calyxs to appear are usually really small almost look like little hooks but now i've got a seperate MH i've noticed that on all the plants that their first set of calyxs are fatter, bigger looking, hopefully this is a good sign, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
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Day 7 of 12/12
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Day 7 of 12/12
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Day 7 of 12/12
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From tomorrow i'll be changing over to the HPS yinyang.gif
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Dr Benways Assistant
Looking good Bazza, wish I'd kept my nodes that tight mine are a bit lanky.
bazza82
Hi Dr BA,
thanks mate yinyang.gif , just found out the worst possible result - Biddy's Sister is 100% male sad.gif but the Biddy Early is 100% female, most of my plants/strains i kept to put into flower have turned out male, now left with 3 plants altogether sad.gif , from now on i'm not gonna guess the plants sex before they show it, i'm gonna wait until i can be 100% sure what sex they are, i made the mistake of throwing out the tallest ones thinking they were male, Baz.
Gerrit
Hi Bazza,

To bad about the male but it's not the worst possible, you still have a female Biddy Early and cuts from the others, right?

@ Wasabi, They will not turn purple (or maybe some purple/red coloring of calyxes at best) when the temperatures don't drop.
The purple does not show in indoor grows unless you are willing to compromise yield and quality somewhat by letting the cold outdoor air in at lights off.

It's hard to tell from a picture but it looks like it's a Biddy Early, not a sista.

Gerrit
bazza82
QUOTE(Gerrit @ Feb 16 2008, 05:26 PM) *
Hi Bazza,

To bad about the male but it's not the worst possible, you still have a female Biddy Early and cuts from the others, right?

@ Wasabi, They will not turn purple (or maybe some purple/red coloring of calyxes at best) when the temperatures don't drop.
The purple does not show in indoor grows unless you are willing to compromise yield and quality somewhat by letting the cold outdoor air in at lights off.

It's hard to tell from a picture but it looks like it's a Biddy Early, not a sista.

Gerrit


Hi Gerrit,
yeah saved clones of the ones i never kept, checked the propagator this morning and it seems there's a few of them with roots out the root riot cubes, i'm really pleased as it's my first time attempting to clone and wasn't expecting them to root, hopefully they continue to do fine so i can get some Biddy's Sister + Biddy Early clones to go in the grow room with the lone Biddy Early, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
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seems i'm the only one who hasn't got or had these seeds ermm.gif ...would love to try the strain that's crossed with warlock unsure.gif anyways bazza good luck with the rest of your grow mate biggrin.gif

Hi Luvmybuds, cheers mate, you should buy yourself a pack and try them out, i think the Biddy's Sister's are gonna be available to buy soon, peace, Baz yinyang.gif

Update:

Day 10 of 12/12

the Biddy Early seems to be getting on great, i'm pleasantly surprised how short she is at this stage, i was expecting it to get really tall, she's got nice tight nodes on her, the aroma is picking up slightly as well, she is 14 inches high (1 foot 2 inches), peace, Baz
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QUOTE(wasabi @ Feb 16 2008, 03:09 PM) *
looking sweet baz real sweet spliff.gif sorry to hear your down to three, be careful because there going to end up like this baby, its supposed to be a biddy early but could well be a biddys sister cos i waz stoned planting them, sorry to hijack your thread mate but if gerrit could answear what stage is it supposed to turn purple?
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Hi Wasabi,
your Biddy Early is looking good mate, how tall is she?, tried to get a close-up of the first set of pistels, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
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A closer look at the structure, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
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KC
Looking sweet mate, did you sort out a sodium bulb? Or you still under the Halide? Good for keeping them node distances short though.

Soz to hear about your lady situation.
bazza82
Day 14 of 12/12

Hi KC33,
yeah i managed to get a HPS lamp - got a Phillips Master son-t PIA plus, a bargain at £20 smoke.gif , thanks for looking in man yinyang.gif
Now on day 14 of 12/12, she still hasn't needed any nutes so far, today she is 18 inches tall (1 foot, 6 inches from base of stalk to top), in the last 4 days she's grew an inch per day, this girl has plenty of head room so i won't need to train her which i'm so happy about as i've never had a plant that's never been trained before, hoping to get a nice big running cola by the end, she smells beautiful when you rub the stalk, sort of funky, fruity / citrus notes, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
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cola area of plant, peace, Baz yinyang.gif
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