Sativex Chocolate

A Bud Buddie receiving Sativex on prescription told me she is very pleased with the results, however as she is on quite a high daily dose she has developed sore areas in her mouth from the sublingual spray. She also mentioned that, although the pain killing properties of Sativex are good she misses the heavy relaxed body stone of a good indica.

Sativex is a whole plant extract of cannabis – containing 51% THC and 49% CBD in an alcohol solution.

Most people notice a heavier body stone when eating cannabis as it is processed by the body via different route than smoking or sublingually, so we decided to try mixing a bottle of her Sativex into melted high cocoa solids chocolate.

Here's how we did it


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You will need a hob, glass bowl, saucepan, a few spoons, an ice cube tray and 150 grams of quality chocolate (at least 70% cocoa solids, cheap chocolate caramelises during heating). We are using Green & Blacks but any high quality dark chocolate will work


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You will also need a bottle of Sativex and a pair of pliers

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Remove the top from your bottle with a pair of pliers, use the wire cutting blades to grip the top of the spray dispenser and carefully remove the spray mechanism



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Discard the spray mechanism

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Break the 150 grams of chocolate into pieces to aid melting


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Quarter fill your pan with water and place the glass bowl onto the pan – this creates a double boiler, ensure that the water is not in contact with the bowl and simmer. The steam from the water will heat the bowl allowing the chocolate to melt without burning. Add the chocolate

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Stir to achieve even melting


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When the chocolate is fully melted and smooth in constistency remove from heat and add the Sativex while stirring constantly. You will notice the chocolate thickening considerably – this is normal.

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After stirring to ensure that the Sativex is fully mixed into the chocolate – take a teaspoon and use this to fill the ice cube tray.


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When the tray is full – Bang the ice cube tray down onto a solid surface, this will settle and level the chocolate in the tray


Place the tray into a fridge for a couple of hours

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Push out the squares of chocolate and store in a container in the fridge


Dose

A bottle of Sativex contains approximately 50 sprays – we are using a 14 square ice cube tray so each square of chocolate is the equivalent of 3.5 sprays of Sativex

CAUTION – 3.5 sprays of Sativex sprayed as directed under the tongue will be absorbed via the mucus membranes directly into the bloodstream and 4 sprays is considered a strong dose. Sativex in chocolate will still be absorbed under the tongue but the majority will be swallowed and will be converted into the metabolite 11-Hydroxy-THC this will make the effects greater and longer lasting

The effects can be felt from 20 minutes to an hour after ingestion


Effects

Danzig’s view - I was totally fucked after one square - very heavy body stone and I slept for 10 hours


Medi-Users Experience

The results were a total success, I had one square and within an hour was pain free and very, very stoned. The effect from the chocolate was much heavier and more relaxing than when taking it sublingually, it also lasted longer making the chocolate much better for sleeping than neat Sativex. I am now using a combination of Sativex spray and Sativex chocolate depending on the effect I want – it has made my medicine much more versatile, not to mention better-tasting!

Effects

Danzig’s view - I was totally fucked after one square - very heavy body stone and I slept for 10 hours




having seen Danzig totally fucked, this is one recipe im going to follow. this of course is his professional viewpoint , and not to be taken lightly

same here

excellent idea and excellent thread.
nice one danzig et al

longer lasting pain relief than spraying under tongue.
works a treat.




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, top review mate

Sativex is 51%thc and 49% cbd, but does this mean that medicinal users will not get stoned?
But by making choccy you can change this and get a more varied/effective medicinal product? Amazing. Scientists and prohibitionists should see all this.

Also that sativex looks just like hash oil. What plants do Gm use or is it synthetic thc?
Interesting Danzig (and Bartman!) Cheers bud.

Most interesting. Sativex did nothing for me, either as a medicine or in terms of getting high/stoned. Nowt, abolutely zip.
Glad that it works for most though!

You can get as stoned as you want to be





Might send a link to GWP





Sativex is based on Skunk #1 and GWP have patented their own cannabis strains

maybe you got a placebo

This is very interesting indeed. I'd not thought about it in that way - acheiving a different effect with it for medical purposes. Great stuff!

What sort of ice-cube tray do you use though??? I've tried so many different ones that i've lost the will to go on with them. I bought some moulds for a bar but i wish i'd gotten something out of the trays. Ahwell


Anyone thinking what i'm thinking?

Be careful the media don't latch onto this. Can you imagine it?

This works

i am never free of pain, especially in the rib cage

one square and 30 mins into digestion , realising that i was pain free

Yes thats right pain free, I almost didnt know what to do, it was gentle and sustained

I cannot say this was a medical experiment, as i was smoking bud as well,

I was fully normalised, and without pain,

I can fully normalised and still pain, so the conclusion is,

Sativex Chocolate does work in more ways that a spray

Nope. it was a prescribed bottle, and not a tester. But I believe I'm right in saying that I am not alone in finding Sativex ineffective. I think I am right in saying that this has been reported from a few patients with a history of prescribed Opioid therapy. I have been on Opioid pain relief for over 12 years now. Seems this may be stopping Sativex from being effective. What is interesting though is that smoking or eating bud/hash still works fine. Maybe the problem is down to Sativex being a recombination of CBD/THC? I don't know.
MJ - great news Missis, it must be great for you to have that measure of relief, I'm well chuffed for you. Mind you, get GW Pharma told of this, and maybe they'll produce a chocolate themselves - it sounds very promising.

great stuff

anyone tried spraying the sativex onto tobacco, letting it dry and smoking it?


p.s. when's the book coming out?

can anybody think of a worse thing to do with sativex ? Why not spray it on a small turd and brush your teeth with it

Urm - this is the Medicinal Cannabis forum M8; we are not talking about "getting bolloxed" etc, but about treating serious illnesses. Smoking something mixed with tobacco is no way to take medicine

brilliant idea and thread

i have a serious illness, thank you for asking.

and i like tobacco.

OCTAFISH

Havent a clue, can you sourse Sativex and have a go?

be interesting to know

seriously though better absorbed through injestion with a fat to metabolise through the liver

thanks mj

having recently moved house i am waiting to build a relationship with my new gp before asking for sativex

i suffer from Trigeminal Neuralgia, a condition which is often misdiagnosed as ms, but i am not sure that sativex can be prescribed

i am aware that ingestion is best, but a 20 year baccy and weed habit takes some breaking

this thread is about using sativex in other ways, so i dont really see the problem in my suggestion

i was only wondering, like blue cow

That was one of the first trials - 4 sprays of sativex on a single skinners worth of cutters choice - mild buzz at best and not an effective method of administration IMO - have yet to try it in a volcano but I have got some liquid disks for the volcano and will give it a try





As an unliscenced medicine it can be described for any condition,





What? 'Cooking with Sativex' only got the chocolate at the mo' so wouldn't be much of a book but Sativex liquer chocolates are on the drawing board - will report here in due course

I am sorry to hear it. But I wasn't having a pop or anything, just pointing up that smoking Sativex with tobacco is not exactly recommended therapy. And when I read your post you sounded (obviously I misread it, apologies) like a stoner who'd stumbled into this thread withour realising where it is
I can't imagine that smoking is particularly good for TN either. I smoked from 13 - 51, gave up at 51 which was three years ago now. Best thing I ever did. But no, I'm not judging you or insisting you should do the same, just letting you know that it is possible to quit, even after many years even decades



I didn't.


But thankyou for letting us know. TN is a very nasty thing, and most painful. You have my very real sympathies. It is quite OK for a GP to prescribe Sativex for conditions other than MS - maybe a trip to a Pain Management Clinic would help as most GP's like Sativex prescriptions to be recommended by a Pain Management Consultant. Absolutely crazy, isn't it? Last week I asked for my Morphine 'script to be ramped up - nay worries, said the Doc, and calmly doubled it. But ask for Sativex and Oh my gawd, you'd think I'd asked for a ton of Semtex!
Funny old world.

I'm not a lover of dark chocolate usually but anything's better than the taste of Sativex. 100g of Green and Black's Mint at 70% cocoa and 50g of Lindt 85% cocoa. It doesn't half thicken up after you stir in the Sativex, I could lift out lumps and mould them into the icecube tray. And the top of the bottle was a bugger. Pliers weren't shifting it so I ended up peeling the metal apart with a tin opener.

Ta for the recipe.


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I made Sativex chocolate in 2006 and advised GWP, of this, in an email, in early 2007, saying that it worked better as a chocloate. I was advised, by phonecall, that making Sativex chocolate was a bad idea as a medicine.
In fact the woman, who is no longer working for GWP, had a good laughed at me. Fine!

That does surprise me, what reason did they give for it being such a bad idea?

maybe coz it makes it more attractive to children? whilst there's still so much opposition to sativex, i expect GWP have to be extremely careful not to give the hypercritical arseholes any ammunition against it



edit - reading this thread made me really jealous, coz my chewing/swallowing probs make eating chocolate a nightmare for me

... but i've just had a thought ... sativex chocolate icecream GU make a gorgeous choccy & raspberry icecream, guess what's now on my shopping list!

no probs arnie, i am a stoner too, and do tend to stumble about this site without a glance at forum headings.

tbh i only realised how much weed was helping when forced to stop growing, and other supplies were a bit hit and miss.

tobacco, aaah, love it and hate it, given up many a time, one day it will stick.

peas

She said, "We don't wish to be associated with producing a product similar to that of an illegal organisation who have been distributing cannabis laced chocolate, and who are presently being taken to Court by the Government. No! We don't wish to end up in the same mess as them!" As I recall, she did at one point mention THC4MS.

They know very well it works well when mixed with high cocoa content chocolate.

My way of mixing it was to put 5 or 6 sprays per cube of chocolate (done the hard way! - pressing the awkward, difficult to use spray mechanism on the vial) ... which equaled guaranteed sleep.

Tried 3 sprays on Volcano, with wire mesh liquid holder, and I didn't get anything worth writing about.
Alcohol evaporates at, is it 76C? I didn't want the alcohol when vaporising it, so I set it at 76C 1st and let it blow to air.
Just thinking about it now ... all my THC and CBD went to air as well ... it's bound to the alcohol ... I'm a clot!!!

There are varieties of weed on sale in coffeeshops in the Netherlands that, for me at least, that leave Sativex looking like some LowRyder I've grown - it will just about provide enough illness and pain relief get just about get you through the day.

I've vaporised some weeds here and I'm 'gone' by the 3rd or 4th bag (Black Widow, Santa Maria, Morning Glory, Q, to name but a few). If all I can manage to get is something like average White Widow (of which there is far too much about and some worse than the worst I've ever had in the UK) I mix 0.1g good hash with the weed to get to sleep.
In term of cost, since I would have to pay for Sativex in UK, @ 90p a spray x 6 that is £5.40 to get to sleep on Sativex.
Using vaporised good weed here cost me about £ 1 - £1.50 to get the same quality and quantity of sleep.

Ooh, can I have mine Mushy please? Then we can potter off down the pub for a pint too.
Stumble away old bean! We're all the same really, I reckon.
Have a good 'un

I love chocolate and have heard that the higher content of coco is of medicinal value as well. I can't eat too much chocolate due to my liver problems. If anyone suffers from liver desease please know that too much chocolate is toxic to us

Thanks for putting this recipe up I'm sure that my readers would be interested in this. In issue # 10 there is a write up by a patient in Toronto who has tried Sativex

Take Care and Peace
Marco

its the milk chocolates you have to avaoid Marco far to much fat content,

the darker the better for you more cocoa and less fat

Doesn't chocolate contain a chemical similar to THC but in very small amounts?

well mrmj and myself made some Sativex choccies

lindt 72%

sativex, donared bottle, thankyou

brilliant

after a test injestion, all gave the thumbs up

the lasting effects the morning after, it was still working

shativex. works wonders for toothache and having too many friends.

Just a wee add on

organic dark chocolate, nice flavour

49p per 100grms

doh blond moment

as poi nte3dout, whoops

from Aldi

Wish I could have this for my broken hand

I hate having tablets and shit, I can't sleep because of it.

'Ere, Where's me hat, I got to eat it now!

Seriously folks, the spray did nowt for me even in large measures. But I've just sampled my first wee bit of choccie (I mixed a bottle with a bar of 85% Organic Dark Choc, made 9 lumps, so on the strong side). As they chill, I "cleaned" the spoon and bowl with, ah, my tongue.



Holy Moley.....

Phew!


Spot, hit! And goodnight Vienna, I shall sleep tonight, I know it.

Much better eaten, much better. It seriously does hit the spot, and how! No anlagesic meds for me today, thankyou

nice one Arnie,

It really is amazing the difference innit, especially for sleeping imo - the spray was useless for me when it came to sleep because it has an "up", sativa-ish effect, which is OK during the day but at night it just made my mind too active and sleep even more elusive Eating it on the other hand gives me a proper heavy, deeply relaxed body effect and has given me some of the best sleeps I've had in ages

This is astoundingly effective! I have no doubt I shall sleep tonight. This is as pain free as I've been in over a month or six. Blooming marvellous, dahlings!

Oh and I've just walked the dog, and managed 3 times the distance I've been stuck at for the last month. Ding! Dong!

Hot Tip:
When you've melted the choc, mixed in the Sativex and then put it in the ice trays; well, what do you do with the mixing bowl?
Leave about a dose or so alongside the scrapings in the bowl, and then add hot fresh Real Coffee, and mix thoroughly. Pour in favourite coffee mug, and swig good and hot. Sit down, put the sounds on .... man, aint it good to be alive.
Sciatica? What Sciatica?


Topic pinned, in the hope that many more folks will read and benefit.

That's great news Arnie the dreaded sciatica under control


It is amazing the effects of Sativex when choccied

Its a form of control MJ; and very welcome. I suspect other analgesics will be needed if a full on sciatica was to happen, though.
The only drawback I've found is the rapid way tolerance builds up. It's a case of one day with, two without.