Hey folks, I have my first harvest coming up, , and am just wondering what I use exactly to make the BHO? I know I want the smaller trich covered leaves, that much is for sure. I am wondering if I need to bigger fan leaves or if I should just chuck em?

i quick wash will only get surface cover off anyway. no point wasteing butaine on the big leaves. they can be oiled, but it takes so much doing that other unwanted stuff is leached out.

i make my oil from buds....

Thanks friendly. Well as stated this is my first go round at getting rid of the dealer. I am pleased as punch thus far and can see the finish line. I hope I can get an ounce per plant and soon as they come down I have more ready to go in. So for now, I will be using trim as I want to make sure I have enough bud to last till next time but you can bet your but that once I get a bit of surplus, I will be making some with bud, thats for sure.

its been said that oil off the leaves is actually nicer than off the buds. im not sure in which way though.

i just use buds cuz im lazy, and there free afterall

off the leaves is just a bit more work. its unlikely to be any worse than off the buds though.


have fun

Alright buddy, Good luck with the first harvest mate, I hope you get what you expect from it. It's hard negotiating the boards sometimes, especially when people give inaccurate advice, it can throw you off course. Advice like this:



FE mate, please think a bit more before answering peoples' questions. Only answer if you DO actually have experience of what they are asking rather than just your theory, because quite often you are wrong. This is only a minor example but I am mentioning it now as Buddy says he's on his first attempt and it's best that he is not mislead from the beginning.

You are basically refering to IsoPropyl Alcohol or other such extracrions. What you say is not applicable to Buddy's question about BUTANE extractions making BHO. Plus, it matters not if you use bud or frosty trim, you will both get the same results and it will take exactly the same time and effort (maybe more effort with buds as you have to break them up first). So please think a little before answering questions.

Buddy:

Dispite my contradicting FE above, it is best not to use the fan leaves. What I do when trimming buds when cropping is to do it in two stages. First up trim off the big fan leaves without visible resin glands on them and throw them away. Then do a closer trim of all the 'dusty' trim around the buds and collect that for hashing/oiling.

I trim my buds from fresh aswell (I don't dry them - just trim as soon as I crop), as this produces the best results for bubbling hash, plus I find it an easier job from fresh. That said though, for oiling the trim, you want to dry it out first. So it is up to you whether you dry the weed then trim it, or trim the weed fresh then dry the trim for oiling. Either way you just want the leaves around the buds with resin glands on them, and you want to dry them out before oiling.

If you check out the link in my sig, you will see how I go about things, but as you can see, it matters not if you use trim or bud as it's just the resin glands you will get anyway. Weight for weight it is exactly the same amount of work and effort required aswell. Personally I bubble the trim and then oil it afterwards to get every last drop and this requires a bit more effort but it is worth it.



Ask away if there's anything else you want to know or you want me to expand on.

Happy oiling.

Thanks Grobag, much appreciated to get a reply from the King, . It is my first time and hope I am not setting my expectations of 1oz per plant too high. I have checked out your threads multiple times and will surely be using it as a guide once I am ready to go. I will be doing the trimming fresh. Once they are ready, it will all be done right away and then left to dry. I already got some Colibri (sp?) near zero impurities butane and I havent decided if I will try to buy a coffee brewer as you had or maybe just a honeybee.

I have no previous experience but have watched friends make oil with the IPA before, some of it terrible but most times it was pure rocket fuel, . 2 tokes on a hot knife and I was written off, , . They however heated the IPA mixture to speed evap I guess, seems like most here like to let it evaporate. I want to try BHO as a result of seeing your thread and how golden and tasty it looked. I am wondering the difference between the BHO and IPA oil, is it BHO= lesser quantity but more potent and vise versa with the IPA oil?

It depends on quite a few factors as to whether you get an oz per plant, not least the set up used including lighting and ventiation, and the amount of time they vegged for. You'll have to see.

It's cool you have Colibri gas as that is a very good brand to use. Plus you are drying the trim first which will make all the difference.

It doesn't really matter if you use a honey bee or a coffee pot, you will get cool results both ways. I prefer the pot as the trim can 'brew' in the liquid butane for a few mins rather than just pouring straight out. This ensures getting every last drop of oil out and longer washes have no detrimental effects like with IPA where longer washes result in dirtier oil.



I only like mildly heating the evaporation dish to speed up the process. I use a hot water bath underneath for this. Some people use the oven with the door open or an electric hob, but it is a fine line. You don't want to heat it too much and burn off the THC aswell as the IPA. You can't go wrong with hot water from the tap underneath though and as long as you don't use too much IPA, it'll be done in a couple of hours. Butane vaps inminutes though with a hot water bath so there is no need for any extra heat.

Basically butane is a bit more selective with what it extracts making it a stronger, purer oil. IPA also extracts contaminants with the Cannabinoids such as waxes, tars and chlorophyl, which inevitably 'water' down the oil. That is why you only do a quick wash with IPA as most of the cannabinoids will be extracted in the first 30 seconds with a minimum of contams. Longer washes may get a few more cannabinoids but also a lot more contams, so you need to time it right. You can always do a second wash for a more impure oil to make sure you get everything.

So yeah mate, you get a higher yield with IPA oil because of the contams aswell, but you get a cleaner, stronger oil with Butane, altough a lower yield.