does that mean it's totally kaput and has to go back to the factory
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aaarrrgghh, my machine has just buggered up with 3 red lights.
does that mean it's totally kaput and has to go back to the factory
does that mean it's totally kaput and has to go back to the factory
The specific type of hardware failure can be determined by a "hidden" error code
* Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
* Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
* The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.
You should be able to determine the difference between the 3 flashing lights and the error code lights by the rate in which they flash.
Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:
* All four lights flashing - 0
* One light flashing - 1
* Two Lights flashing - 2
* Three lights flashing - 3
0001: Power supply problem
0002: Network Interface problem
0003: Power problem could be the PSU could be the GPU/CPU, somehow the console isn't getting clean power from the power supply.
0010: Over heating
0011: Over heating - If you are recieving this error after dissassembling your console make sure all 8 of the heatsink screws are tightened securely to the board/heatsink holes.
0012: Over heating
0013: Over heating
0020: (Not yet known, possibly overheating)
0021: DVD Drive Time out - Can be caused by problems with a firmware flash. This is also speculated to sometimes be caused by a problem with the southbridge chipset on the motherboard.
0022: GPU Error / GPU Overheating
0023: (not yet known)
0101: (not yet known)
0102: Unknown error - literally means the console does not know what is wrong. possibly a short or cold solder joint somewhere. So far there is 1 major theory for what causes most of these errors is that the Ram, CPU, or GPU are not soldered properly to the mother board.
0103: CPU Error: CPU Overheating - see solution for error 0102
0110: Memory Error / Memory Overheating - see solution for error 0102
0200: (not yet known)
1000: (not yet known)
1001: (not yet known)
1002: (not yet known)
1003: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it
1010: Hard Drive Error, Can be caused buy a currupt or missing Eprom.
1011: (not yet known)
1012: (not yet known)
1013: (not yet known) possibly a dashboard update error.
1020: (not yet known)
1021: (not yet known)
1022: AV cable error, There is a problem with the AV cable, try using a different AV cable. (could also be a problem with the encoder chip)
1023: DVD drive not connected, connect DVD drive to boot
1030: (not yet known)
1031: (not yet known)
1032: (not yet known)
1033: (not yet known)
* Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
* Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
* The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.
You should be able to determine the difference between the 3 flashing lights and the error code lights by the rate in which they flash.
Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:
* All four lights flashing - 0
* One light flashing - 1
* Two Lights flashing - 2
* Three lights flashing - 3
0001: Power supply problem
0002: Network Interface problem
0003: Power problem could be the PSU could be the GPU/CPU, somehow the console isn't getting clean power from the power supply.
0010: Over heating
0011: Over heating - If you are recieving this error after dissassembling your console make sure all 8 of the heatsink screws are tightened securely to the board/heatsink holes.
0012: Over heating
0013: Over heating
0020: (Not yet known, possibly overheating)
0021: DVD Drive Time out - Can be caused by problems with a firmware flash. This is also speculated to sometimes be caused by a problem with the southbridge chipset on the motherboard.
0022: GPU Error / GPU Overheating
0023: (not yet known)
0101: (not yet known)
0102: Unknown error - literally means the console does not know what is wrong. possibly a short or cold solder joint somewhere. So far there is 1 major theory for what causes most of these errors is that the Ram, CPU, or GPU are not soldered properly to the mother board.
0103: CPU Error: CPU Overheating - see solution for error 0102
0110: Memory Error / Memory Overheating - see solution for error 0102
0200: (not yet known)
1000: (not yet known)
1001: (not yet known)
1002: (not yet known)
1003: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it
1010: Hard Drive Error, Can be caused buy a currupt or missing Eprom.
1011: (not yet known)
1012: (not yet known)
1013: (not yet known) possibly a dashboard update error.
1020: (not yet known)
1021: (not yet known)
1022: AV cable error, There is a problem with the AV cable, try using a different AV cable. (could also be a problem with the encoder chip)
1023: DVD drive not connected, connect DVD drive to boot
1030: (not yet known)
1031: (not yet known)
1032: (not yet known)
1033: (not yet known)
i had the 'red ring of death' on my xbox360 it cost me £50 to get repaired but the geezer from the shop did warn me before i got it done that about 1 in 4 are just unrepairable and never end up working again properly, but mine was fine in the end
hope you can get it sorted
hope you can get it sorted
cheers Scribble, i checked it with what you posted and the fault seems to be 0020
scarface good to know you got yours fixed for £50 just in case i have a problem with microsoft fixing it, i bought new from someone selling it on ebay just down the road from me when they just came out, i managed to get 2 core machine and sold them for £780 on ebay and bought the 20gb for £440 at the same time, it was a must because it was the premium that my young lad wanted for the online gaming.
i do have the reciept so i'll just pretend to be the person who originally bought it and say i have moved town
scarface good to know you got yours fixed for £50 just in case i have a problem with microsoft fixing it, i bought new from someone selling it on ebay just down the road from me when they just came out, i managed to get 2 core machine and sold them for £780 on ebay and bought the 20gb for £440 at the same time, it was a must because it was the premium that my young lad wanted for the online gaming.
i do have the reciept so i'll just pretend to be the person who originally bought it and say i have moved town
probably way out hehe,but have you checked the cable at the back going to your tv/monitor,a few times i have bumped into the redlights was cause my cable wasnt properly seated
QUOTE(mrxwd @ Sep 20 2007, 09:11 PM) 
probably way out hehe,but have you checked the cable at the back going to your tv/monitor,a few times i have bumped into the redlights was cause my cable wasnt properly seated
thats 4 red lights (a/v problem) he has 3 red lights (hardware error)
i have just got round to trying to get this sorted
i have ripped the house apart about a dozen times trying to find my receipt and in the end i have given up trying to find it
so i phoned microsoft and explained to them it was broken and i couldn't find the receipt
they are going to fix it for me for nothing even without the receipt
i thought i would post this as microsoft don't usually get a good write up
as you can imagine i'm a happy chap
Bush Cat
i have ripped the house apart about a dozen times trying to find my receipt and in the end i have given up trying to find it
so i phoned microsoft and explained to them it was broken and i couldn't find the receipt
they are going to fix it for me for nothing even without the receipt
i thought i would post this as microsoft don't usually get a good write up
as you can imagine i'm a happy chap
Bush Cat
That's good, B_C.
Apparently, they have had so many fail on them that they had to put so many millions of dollars asides so they can deal with all the repairs/returns - so I suspect your good fortune may have something to do with that.
Apparently, they have had so many fail on them that they had to put so many millions of dollars asides so they can deal with all the repairs/returns - so I suspect your good fortune may have something to do with that.
its a over heatin prob i hread 3 bill worth will do that
Just to add my two-penneth. I have had the red ring of death. Specifically, all lights flash red except for the upper right quadrant. The support website has an open letter from (i think) Peter Moore saying it is a known hardware failure and consoles exhibiting these symptoms will be replaced within three years of purchase.
Mine has been received at the repair centre but I'm just hoping for a straight swap in all honesty (preferably with a quieter fan and an HDMI port
). I'll keep you posted...
Mine has been received at the repair centre but I'm just hoping for a straight swap in all honesty (preferably with a quieter fan and an HDMI port
). I'll keep you posted...
Apparently it is indeed a 'general hardware failure' and it's nearly always caused by the insufficient cooling on the CPU and GPU causing the solder to melt and the chips to unseat and slide off their pads.
There are DIY methods of preventing this from happening, mainly revolving around putting improved heatsinks on the chips, and 'bolting' them to the motherboard securely.
Also:
MICROSOFT IS equipping Xbox 360s with additional cooling to battle the legendary Ring of Death problems.
Gamers are reporting that their repaired Xboxes, back from the Vole, have a massive new heatsink on the ATI-powered Xenos graphics chip in a bid to prevent problems with overheating and stability.
The heatsink looks like this:
and features an additional heatpipe and fin section to increase the cooling surface area. However, there are no extra fans.
There is also no word on epoxy - glue is used on the high-end Xbox 360 Elite units to prevent chips from coming away from the PCB should the plastic warp in the heat. We suspect that those lucky enough to get their Xbox back in a working condition aren't keen to start pulling it apart again.
We suspect that thermals will continue to be an issue with the 360 until Microsoft can start cranking out 65nm components that will require far less power and generate less heat. At that point, the Ring of Death should be history. Until then, expect it to keep firefighting, in some cases, quite literally.
¡Now-a that's-a somm-a heat-sink!
There are DIY methods of preventing this from happening, mainly revolving around putting improved heatsinks on the chips, and 'bolting' them to the motherboard securely.
Also:
QUOTE
Xbox 360 cooling arrives to combat Ring of Death
Keeping Xenos in check
By Wily Ferret: Thursday, 14 June 2007, 11:06 AM
MICROSOFT IS equipping Xbox 360s with additional cooling to battle the legendary Ring of Death problems.
Gamers are reporting that their repaired Xboxes, back from the Vole, have a massive new heatsink on the ATI-powered Xenos graphics chip in a bid to prevent problems with overheating and stability.
The heatsink looks like this:
and features an additional heatpipe and fin section to increase the cooling surface area. However, there are no extra fans.
There is also no word on epoxy - glue is used on the high-end Xbox 360 Elite units to prevent chips from coming away from the PCB should the plastic warp in the heat. We suspect that those lucky enough to get their Xbox back in a working condition aren't keen to start pulling it apart again.
We suspect that thermals will continue to be an issue with the 360 until Microsoft can start cranking out 65nm components that will require far less power and generate less heat. At that point, the Ring of Death should be history. Until then, expect it to keep firefighting, in some cases, quite literally.
¡Now-a that's-a somm-a heat-sink!
hi all,
ive had my 360 about 18 months now, ive got a cooling unit attached to the back. am i likely to be seeing the 3 rings of death soon ?
peace newbudda
ive had my 360 about 18 months now, ive got a cooling unit attached to the back. am i likely to be seeing the 3 rings of death soon ?
peace newbudda
If you have a 3rd party cooling solution on the back of it, and you keep all the air-vents clear, you should be OK, I think.
¿Still, it'd be nice to have the upgraded internal solution with that sexy heat-pipe installed, wouldn't it?
¿Still, it'd be nice to have the upgraded internal solution with that sexy heat-pipe installed, wouldn't it?
thanks scribble,
it'd be nice indeed, can i phone or contact microsoft an demand the upgrade, ive still got my receipt ??
it'd be nice indeed, can i phone or contact microsoft an demand the upgrade, ive still got my receipt ??
You could try, but AFAIK they're just doing it for units that have failed due to overheating.
You could always try running it without the cooler on the back, and wait for it to fail...
You could always try running it without the cooler on the back, and wait for it to fail...
sorry to be a total numb nut but what does afaik mean
i just dont want it to fek up over xmas which i think it might cause ive played it hard, but wen it does break, whenever that is can i just contact them an get it sorted for free ??
thanks again scribble and sorry to hijack bc
i just dont want it to fek up over xmas which i think it might cause ive played it hard, but wen it does break, whenever that is can i just contact them an get it sorted for free ??
thanks again scribble and sorry to hijack bc
as far as I know
Your up late NB
Your up late NB
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