Hi

Here are those two bagseeds I smuggled in from Egypt. I thought it might be a true sativa in the beginning, but its been on 20/4 since germination and its started to flower automatically without going into 12/12, (this started weeks ago) so what does this tell us... that its a ruderallis variety?

Still, I don't think its entirely worthless, can see thc forming (not much) and its slowly flowering. Guess I'll have to wait and see the end result, but would love to hear your thoughts now! I know its difficult to say, but what do you think, will it turn out to be shit

That looks like one of those 'terrorist plants'.

Tell me, why do you hate our country and our freedoms so much?

Sure it's not one of those 'Killer Skunks' come here to do us all in ?

Runs !!!

No, not the killer skunk !

They look nice mate, shame they are not in bigger pots

Strains frokm near the equator don't do the whole 12/12 thing apparently. Makes sense considering there is less variation in day length through the seasons.

Yeh, does seem to fit the ruderalis profile.

Worthless on its own then

Just for fun, How would I breed this strain 50/50 with something? say if I put POG pollen onto her, will the result be 50% pog and 50% rud? And, if im NOT breeding for the auto-flowering trait, then what other traits do ruderalis have? Nothing?

cheers

No it's not a ruderalis profile.

You are growing a landrace sativa indoor..it's not as easy as hybrid that's not an autoflowering strain.

For pollenation, do you have some egyptian males? that would be the best hypothesis..keeping true the strain...after that first step you can try everything with it.

thanks massacre! got me excited now, landrace sativa eh sounds good
(but if it isn't a auto-flowering strain, then why are they flowering in 20/4?)

I do have the original seeds... about 35+ left, though I had 3/15 success rate last time.

I think the container's size can be responsible as well as some others factors. Those landraces doesn't grow naturally in your growroom environment and they need adapted light period to be done properly...I don't mean i wouldn't have made the mistake but that with landraces genetic, you had to know the strain before doing it well...So you need to grow it, grow it again and again.
When you know it, you can manage it at is best....It's quite hard but worth it.

any update Smokey.
Some friends have grown an egyptian strain last year.

Hi man, yep they're still growing ok. How did your mates plant turn out? Was it a decent smoke?

Not sure what to expect Perhaps later on in the year, I'll give breeding a go, always wanted to cross something but never got round to it, any plans/help/advice appreciated I have loads of seeds left.

That's coming along really nicely now. Way to go.

Thanks man

Could of done with bigger pots though, but it was only a tester

From what I remember in egypt, the high was really pleasent, I can remember being extremely smiley and my head felt extremely large

they look fantastic smokey

lucky thing, not many peeps have smoked or grown Egyptian herb I bet. I love rare land races

good luck with the rest of the grow, cant wait to see em finish

deffo got a do a smoke report too

Interesting you should say that, I've got some Kerela bagseed that also has really atrocious germinations rates. This time I've had to split the seed cases by hand and plant the kernel in the compost,managed to get 3 sprouts from 8 seeds but only 1 survived. Have you managed to increase your germination rates at all with these seeds ?

Thanks,
Felix.

Cheers FD Will let you know the results mate, yeh I am lucky, got them from 2 young arab blokes in a horse and cart, paid £10 for it, only a few bits of buds was in it, but loads of stalks & seeds as well, so I was more than happy about that than the actual weed!

They wouldn't accept a tenner first of all though, kept pointing at my watch No way were they having that, so I walked away after a few mins, then one of them followed me and then accepted the cash for the goods.

Before that though, I actually bought real fresh horse shit as well, this fat arab bloke with black teeth made me on edge, saying the police were on the look out for him and kept hurrying me to cough up, so instead of me looking inspecting the product before I handed over the money, I just gave him the money and walked off, only realised 2 mins later I bought dung, did I see him again?? Yes, I did... But as soon as we made eye contact and he knew I was coming to get him, he gave his horse a good whip and that was the last I saw of him, he was lucky too

Felix, 3-4 cracked out of 15+ iirc, pretty low sucess rate, only 2-3 of em survived (1 was lacking vigour, so I gave it the good news, should of kept it really, might of been a male)

I have not tried germinating anymore since but when the time is right, I'll germ some more. The remaining seeds look like they have been sun damaged, can see slight cracks and a few un-developed green seeds. But hoping to get a least 1 male this time to carry on the genetics, I won't be cracking any until I have an extra room up and running.

They look great Smokey, how long have they been flowering in that pic?

How did the original bud smoke?

i don't know how long exactly, but a good few months from seed. (germed around may?)

the smoke was decent, it didn't blow my head off as such, it was just right. I can remember just smiling to myself thinking about random thoughts, but I can't really remember much though sorry.

im no good at smoke reports tbh all I know it was decent enough at the time. (and appreciated )

I'll post a better report when they are properly grown & ready

few more pics,

trics are starting to really form now

It's an interesting plant there Smokey.

It's got quite a North African shape don't you think ? Somewhat similar to Lebanese & Moroccan plants. Any idea on when you think it might be ready ?

Thanks,
Felix.

hey man, I have no idea about genetics, but it does interest me. can't wait to try it.

maybe 3-4 weeks left?

It's defo going to be an interesting smoke, I'm well jealous

That's what I was thinking as well, an immigrated strain from Africa perhaps. I was however more convinced I may have been a highland sativa there.

cool! should be interesting

so it is a 100% sativa, but how do you know if its a landrace or not?
and if it is a landrace, whats need to be done with it?

thanks all

I seem to remember from Robert Connell's Hashish that most Egyptian weed was traditionally grown outside the country and imported from either Greece, Turkey, Lebanon or Syria and those were Sativa strains. I'm fairly sure he also said that Moroccan kiff was Sativa as well but not 100% on that, I can check when I get home tonight if you're really interested. It doesn't seem to have those phat Indica leaves. Whatever it's going to be a far more interesting smoke than most Dutch weed.


Preserve that genetic line, chances are no one else in the UK has it and you are the sole guardian of it's line over here. A little breeding experiment perhaps ?

Felix.


In a previous life ? Sorry geezer couldn't resist it

Thanks felix for information mate, got me all excited now. When I get my new shed up and running, I'll plan a little breeding project... but I need to read first, any particular breeding books you recommend?

And I Hope i do get a male in those seeds, should be able to keep it true then.

I'm just off home now but I'll see what i can dig out for you when I get there.

Cheers,
Felix.

Cheers mate, no worries though if you can't find them.

thanks

haha, only missing letter was "t".

I was actually thinking it looks like my Ethiopian Highland
It used to be one of the bricked weed that came from Africa.

Amazing the difference a single letter can make
There certainly is a similarity, there were trade connections that go way back between Egypt & Ethiopia

I checked Clarke's book Hashish and the only thing to add Smokey is, currently Egypt grows weed in the Nile Delta, Sinai & parts of Sudan (a neighbour of Ethiopia ?), it's not made into Hashish.

Felix.

ah ok thanks for looking felix mate, appreciated.

aventinusdampf, yes that does look similar doesn't it. Even though yours look fatter than mine I think that's down to the small size pot I'm growing in, plus low level lighting and neglect. The similarities are certainly there though, so cheers for posting mate thanks

The Egyptians grow quite a lot of herb actually.Most of it hash plant sativa.Looks like you have one there Smokey.

The most likely reason it is flowering is root restriction.

Pop the rest of the seed and find a male.

Or send them to me and I'll do it for you

Interesting, thanks for the info bob



Cool! I've been a bit worried about that, I hope that is the case mate (i've never knew that as well, so cheers for the info, learn something new everyday )



Not long now till a new shed and growroom. I'm gonna do some research first though, then I'll get cracking.

Looks like a nice smoke, something different eh

Yeah it is interesting

I believe it smells like tree sap, kinda piney?

Anyways, not much has changed, just more browning of pistils but one seems to be producing more crystals. (left in pic).

thats looking lush smokey! wish i had something special like that to grow out. next time i go on holiday i shall be collecting seeds

thanks mate yeh i was lucky to come across it, just hope I can keep it now.

going to try and re-veg her

Looks like your gonna have a very special smoke soon

Keep up the good work.

Thanks mate, looking forward to it myself

Just wished I used bigger pots now

That looks even better now Smokey, nice one It's going to be a very interesting smoke once you've harvested it.

thanks felix

wow man, your one lucky son of a bitch

Well done with your progress up to now, as said, thats gonna be one interesting smoke... your pics look great by the way, keep us updated with pics, any idea's at all how long she has left?

All the best for your future breeding, how good would it feel to smoke some of your own crossed stuff when one of it's parents was personally brought back from egypt your self!

thanks mate

I have no idea how long left, can't be far off though.

experience with the banglore landrace bagseed tells me that its binbound after several frustrating months in flower sorry

but having just looked at the photos at the end of the post i say sorry and well done enjoy

Thanks

Mine too is quite a long flowerer by the look of things, but I don't know if that is down to the growing conditions or other reasons... I'll just keep growing.

what happens next


here she is a few days ago.

How old is see now Smokey?

Holy schmoly Smokey

Is it ready yet, is it ready yet, is it ready yet, is it ready yet, is it ready yet, is it ready yet ?

That looks so............ Landrace and not manufactured interbred commercial stuff. Awesome