I've spent the last 10 days tryin to pop a pack each of Medicine Man, Spice and Shark Shock, what a
fuckin nightmare . I've ended up wit 1xSpice 2xSS and 2xMM usin kitchen roll then into rockwool, up until
this point i had a 100% success rate with about 400 seeds usin this method.

I haven't bothered contacting Joolz coz i know he'd replace em but i don't see why he should foot the
bill, it ain't his fault.

I ain't contacted Shanti either coz even if he was willing to replace em i ain't willing to waste my time
for the same thing to happen again, like here..

I'm absolutely gutted, they look like great plants as do all Mr 'Nice' strains, doubt i'll bother wit any of em
now tho.

Be warned.

e2a: There were 17 seeds in each pack rather than the stated 15, almost altho they're tryin to make
up for some sorta short comings, touch cynical maybe but i can't see it happening by accident...

had some test seeds from shanti not 1 poped it has put me off his seeds for life 2

I've had the same problems with MM and Shit.

MM, % popped.

Shit, 4 out of 13 popped.
Got 2 females and they look really nice at 38 days 12/12.
I cloned the Shit so I'm not as pissed off as I could have been at the waste of money and time.

I did 30 Mandalas the same way and had 29 out of 30 pop.

got to say i had 100% success with 17 mr nice Shark shocks that i germed ...

From what I know of Shanti he would be pretty concerned if this were the case.
Hopefully he'll drop by........

He should be!

Hi All

sorry been away with my daughter for a few weeks, so did not check the net and now back got a lot on....

For the problem you suffered with some shipments of seed I have been trying to sort through things to check where the problems sit. It is not always the fault of any one particular body or person, so patience is needed as it is for growing.If Hyp, you are pissed off I can understand as it would piss me off too, but do you prefer to remain like that or do you want to sort it out. I stand behind my work and if people have a problem I do not blame the reseller or make him pay for it, unless he caused it, which in this case is not so. Joolz is a good guy and that is why we do a MNS helpdesk here. If you would like to sort it out and I invite anyone else to pm me with details of things so we can understand the problem. More I do not know what can be done, so think about it and pm here if that is the way.I will get to the pm in the next day.All the best and sorry for your troubles Shantibaba

Hi shanti im speaking on behalf of my m8 that has not got the internet. He ordered some black widow seeds and they did not germinate and it was 2 wks. He contacted seedsman and they replaced the seeds for free, these also have not germinated. He just put some derban poison freebies seeds in the airing cupboard and they have come through straight away no problem. What can be done? i know all my m8 wants is some seeds that germinate, thanks.

kudos for that exemplary response Shanti, I know, why I'm over at your place

Well ive just germed out a pack of the Mango Haze and i got 15 out of 17 healthy little plants

Bom!

PM sent, thanks for looking in Shanti.

that avatar is spinning me out geez .. .. BOM ..

hehe nice effect, but I kinda miss the old one Bom

Never heard anything but good about Mr Nice seeds and will be sure to try some in the future.

(though i'll be popping them in seedling compost, not messing around rockwool/gel/whatever )

all i have ever used is nirvana seeds and always had 95% upwards germinaition rates.

the method i use is soak in warm water till they sink usually24hrs max ,then into damp toilet paper in a plastic box with lid and put in airing cupoard. 24hrs all cracked.

I had no prob's with Shanti's Super silver haze 10 seeds started and only 1 did'nt show,they got a bit of ruff luvin(late watering's on 3 occasions,which led to some heavy wilting) but tey still pumped out a good yield and reasonable smoke(thought it would be stronger from the hype).

Got to say I have an old pack of Shark Shock here and they have been 100% on the money so far as germination is concerned. And round here that means no nonsense germinating, no fancy-shmancy silliness with tissues and what have you, just bunged straight into compost and left to get on with it. And get on with it they do. With a vengeance.

I never have done the paper towel thing but some use it to good efect , mike mandala advises his seeds should be sown straight into compost and definatly not into wet towels ! there must be a good reason for his advise ?

same with me, im very new and inexperienced at growing but i used the above method with 2 packets of seeds from julez uk420 shop. they were mandala#1 and seedsmans skunk number 1, had ten of the mandalas germ and 9 of the seedsmans no prob and about 70% were female as a bonus.

i dont know much as a newbee but i must say personally I wouldnt/wont be parting wiv my hard earned wages for seeds that people on here have trouble with ( 0 out of 30 germed!!!! wtf ) so i reckon that shanti bloke should sort you out big time (like ten free packs of seeds that actually work and a bunch of flowers for ya missus ) to try and regain some of his customers faith before the word spreads anyfurther.

just my 2pence worth but if i was a buisnessman selling a product for a high price i would want my customers grinning from ear to ear! not coming on here slagging of my product. hope ya get ya money back u poor bugger. i wont be buying no mr nice or this shanti blokes seeds from what ive seen though they sound expensive and rubbish

I can understand a few peoples germination problems putting you off MrNice seeds
Window but Shanti's strains can hardly be described as 'rubbish' mate, owt but.

I just wanted to share my experience w/ MNS. I had "won" MH from SB as well as got some from DC - 12% germed, shanti made it right. I again,"won" BW from SB, 0 germed, Shanti made it right. I "won" CM from SB, 24% germ rate, Shanti is making right. To top it all off, got the last bag of Shit SB had in stock.The stock number is so old, Shanti is making it right and they haven't even germed yet! The Breeders have little control over their pips after they leave their hands, but Shantibaba is the ONLY breeder who has stood behind his product not only in word, but more importantly in deed.

Hi All

I can understand a few frustrations when beans are no popping...believe me it creates alot more work for me if this occurs, so it is not in my interest for this to not be dealt with asap. I have not been around so much on this site since I have been establishing my home site and doing several helpdesks, not to mention plant work...no excuses for bad results, but a reason I have been slow to respond to those of you here.

So please I invite those of you who wish to pm me about any problems you may have had so we can correct them. But if you prefer to not contact me it is difficult to know where the problems lie? So it helps me as much as it helps you and that to me is a good solution for all concerned.

All the best and sorry to all of you who feel you prefer to do nothing about a bad result rather than solve it through communication....Sb

its people like shantibaba that dedicate everything to their work and without that we wouldnt have all these cool strains, understanderble ppl will be annoyed but thats the way it goes, we pay for quality seeds that alot of hard work goes into, including time in prison!! if 1 out of ten sprouted id be happy. not only that if they dont come thru the situation is easyly resovld, peace ppl

i had some critcal mass that did not pop out of the 15 but tryed my replacement packet so far 6 out 7 poped, so give
the man at least a chance to sort it first.

or you just look like a spammer spreading negative publicity

not having a go but some time S**t happens

on thursday 13th march i planted 11 white russian 5 thai hazexskunk and 17 medi man that i got from joolz there were 17 in the pack instead of 15 which i thought was a result thing is tho by day 5 all 11 white russian were up and all 5 thai haze skunk were also up going strong but as of today day 14 not not even 1 of the medicine man has sprouted i done them all the same way soaked the seeds overnight then sowed them into wet allmix but not to have at least 10/12 out of the 17 sprout im shocked but for nothing to have sprouted after 14 days now im double shocked and totaly gob smacked i had a prod bout in one of the pots and the seed hasnt even cracked yet theres no tap root or anything so as nothing has happaned with the other 16 i assume its the same story with them this seems common problem with mm with what ive been reading and as i planted them all the same day and same method i cant see anything ive done wrong anywhere
i am to say the least outragd at the cost of £52 for nothing to happen when in the past ive bought £10 seeds from nirvana and had 100% success rate
would also like to add that in no way shape or form am i blaming or saying its joolz fault or having a dig at joolz because it is not and i am not it has nothing what so ever to do him im just a bit shocked at the lack of quality control

well pm him then ,as he said if you botherd to read the thread he will stand by his work...

dont put the man down hes a champion of the herb all around the world look at the strains hes made in the past:wink:

You cannot have quality control that guarantees viability when it comes to seeds. Cannabis is amazingly fruitful, a plant sheds thousands of seeds. Many of these seeds will be less than viable due either to lack of maturation or over maturation or genetic disposition. Apart from immature seeds, all seeds look alike. How could anyone tell which are viable, which are not? How could anyone be expected to count, let alone validate, tens of thousands of seeds? Utterly impractical, maybe impossible.
Yet Shanti has consistently replaced seeds that have failed to germ. This puts him ahead of most seedbanks IME. In fact, reading this thread has made me realise just how far in front of the field Shanti is when it comes to standing by his stock. Top man, top product?

Within 4 days of PM'in Shanti I'd recieved a pack of SSH in the post.
I popped half a pack and grew out 5 pretty ladies that now ave pride of place in me stash, i'm lookin
forward to poppin the rest in a month or so..

nice dreams what are you talking about whose putting anyone down i have not mentioned or moaned about shanti at all but for the price i paid to have none pop what you expecting smiles and laughs ive been in contact with him for the past 2 months and he is a true gent as i knew he was and is and will be getting a new lot sent im more than intitled to post what happened and as you will notice with no reference to shanti at all so why the attitude and who the hell is putting him down all im saying is there should be some quality cntrol i know its very hard to do with seeds but it seems a common problem with med man just stating facts not blaming anyone at all

Sorry to hear about everyones troubles On the other hand I'm glad to see no complants about SSH, hehe. Waiting on mine to poke out within the next few days (soaked them for 24 hours and put them in rapid rooters last night).

Also, I already had a good picture in my mind of Shanti and MNS in general... The fact that he's actually here reading and responding to posts about his strains, correcting problems does say a lot. Much respect SB!

Hope everyone gets their probs settled, those are some mighty fine looking strains. Would be a shame to not be able to grow them

GL!

I was reading on another site about germ rates with a different breeders strains (Very famous!)

Any how none of the seeds sprouted so the lad E mailed the breeder telling him the crack

The guy sends one E mail back saying


''Yeah them seeds are getting old now''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No replacement nothing

FFS can you believe that

Yeah man that is BS. Was that Arjan? ... I've heard the guy is an ass. Could be wrong though.

Na wasn't arjan, think famous loves guano begins with an S

could it be the famous dj _hort??? Didn't know he loves shit...

Well i got a packet of Mr Nice G13 x Skunk and 18/20 popped i think or maybe 17/20 cant quite remember, the 2 that didnt pop tho were kind of damaged like cracked already so i didn't think they would pop anyway.

I just flung them in a glass of warm water for 24hrs and more than half had tap roots so planted them in pots with some moist light-mix and they were up in a couple of days

Its was my 1st experience with Mr Nice seeds and i was nervous due to this thread but they were fine and i'll defo be trying other strains from them in th future

Do they still come in those shite paper envelopes?

Name and shame Electric man 2; name and shame.
I think I know who you mean.......and I'm surprised, very surprised

was it concerning somaones free tibet seeds?


Ooops bad spelling

Glass of water, seeds in, cling film ontop. Put in box. Put box in cupboard where temp is 60-80 degrees F. So long as temps kept in that range, 100 prsecetnt success rate should follow.

yep, but the g13 is a limited edition, they come in a much better little screw top vial thing.

What makes laugh is the talk of "original breeder packs", , its an envelope ffs, i could knock up an exact copy in 12 minutes.

I think the germination problem with Mr Nice were due to them being rushed out tbh, my g13 skunk are fine too, but they werent part of the first release, and there doesnt seem to be many complaints about the new batches.

e2a: just re-read that and it sounds like im slagging shanti but it isnt meant to, just thinking out loud, from my limited experience i can highly recomend Mr Nice seeds and from the reading ive done they are one of the seedbanks i'll be sticking to in future.

Anyone else think the guy looks like an LCA reject?

Hi All


I have been busy with new crops and just harvested a good few.Waiting for the new seed packets from the printers and feel most of you who felt unhappy with the paper envelops in yellow will be happy with the absolutely new resealable water-proof style I went for this time. No gimmics, not much reference to the seed inside except a name and will be contained inside a crush-proof plastic vial for extra assurances. Things will be ready for December 08, not all strains but a good few...the rest are now in rotation so should be expected every 3 months. Hope that helps all the best Sb

All i can say is shanti has been a proper up front dude with me,replaced my early queen seeds right away,just a shame the second packet only got me two out the whole packet!!.

I did start a diary on his site as well but im afraid that didnt work forme either!!(the site i mean,problems posting/logging in)...

good work tho shanti, ...keep it up,not saying i wouldnt try mr nice strains again.

hello,
germination rates are tricky for some and no problem for others from the same batch of seed,
not necessarily due to grower error,
like all liveing things
there is a difference in each one.
even when all seed germinates and grows,
some plants thrive and others dont
even when both live in the same environement.

Shantibaba has sent me countless different seed varieties.
some very old,some fresh...

I found out fast that when I use a heat mat and a high humidity dome along with fluroescent lighting...
I will achieve a very high 90% germination rate....
without the heat mat...50%-60% is average.
I learned this while working for a commercial greenhouse,starting tomatoe,pepper,melon,and all other seeds that he had me plant.

worth a read over again...
I found out fast that when I use a heat mat and a high humidity dome along with fluroescent lighting...
I will achieve a very high 90% germination rate....
without the heat mat...50%-60% is average.

Mr.Nice is a High Quality Co.

hi all.

are people still having trouble with non-germinating mr nice seeds?? as i noticed this thread is way over a year old now. was the reason not found & the problem sorted?

my story;
i too had germination problems [see my posts] & shantibaba sorted it like a pro. unlike GREENHOUSE SEEDS who didnt even bother to reply to my email when i had problems with their seeds-wankbags! ps. i have never had germ problems except with the seeds mentioned here. im not a serial complainer .

anyways i have just finished my 1st mr nice spice grow. which were grown with replacement seeds from the delightful shatibaba. allreplacement seeds popped & 13 out of 15 grew into plants. out of those i got 8 females. a pic of some dried spice bud below.

Click to view attachment

to be honest. this weed is one of the best ive ever smoked. so thank you shantibaba. if the germination problems are sorted i would highly recommend mr spice seeds. oh & the customer service from shantibaba was second to none. despite the problems, mr nice is the best seed co ive dealt with. the rest dont give a fuck, as long as they get your money!!

peace all, n stop slagging mr nice off you c**ts
wigster70

I dunno what to say , there maybe all diffrent reasons as to why , but if they are replaced then all is well ...just my 2p
p.s think your doing the world a favour shanti , keep it up m8 & all the best for the future

Easy all

WOW. Thats 0 out 17 Shark Shock seeds popping for me.
I've no doubt that the majority of MNS are as good as the best out there. But this has gotta be the worst batch of seeds ever. I'd have been happy with just a few popping. But after 2 weeks trying the best way i know how. Nothing
Been looking online and it seems SS is out of stock at most seed banks, a recall perhaps???
Whats worse for me though is, i'm not gonna buy MNS again until i know there Kosher. Oh well.
Fingers crossed Shantibaba might pop in and fix it for me.
What are my chances peeps?

Peace

hello peep's,
and Addicted. Visit Shanti's site and PM him MNS forum and or PM him here?. He stands over his products big time and has first class customer service. He recently said the same in another thread here on uk420?.

Your chances, send him all details if poss copy and paste your email receipt of / from purchase and your germ method etc.

And give him a chance to reply he is a bizzzzzzzzy dude at the mo!.

have faith!.


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Aye cheers mate.

All done and dusted, the replacements are in the post.

sorry Dimebags,
for me calling you addicted ff's .
Just finished a fat one of medman hee hee!.

Glad you got sorted!.


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