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#1 bongme

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:29 PM

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Cannabis warning to landlords

Friday 19 April 2013

Landlords who let out residential properties across Derbyshire are being urged by police to check they are not being used to grow cannabis.


Rented homes can be used by tenants to grow the drug, often causing extensive damage.

Landlords could also face prosecution if they do not carry out checks to ensure their homes are not being used to produce cannabis.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

That changes things somewhat if a Landlord get prosecuted for not detecting ganja growers at their rental, suddenly you have another factor to calculate in. :angry:

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:17 PM

I don't believe that it is the duty of a landlord to do anything other than make sure the property is habitable and collect the rent.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:56 PM

I don't believe that it is the duty of a landlord to do anything other than make sure the property is habitable and collect the rent.


They don't even have the right to enter the property without a court order.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

They don't even have the right to enter the property without a court order.

Yes they do, it's in your tenancy agreement but they have to give you notice first and can't just turn up unannounced
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:11 PM

they really do want us to become a nation of grasses don't they
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

Very reminiscent of "Stazi" tactics all this... :(

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:06 PM

A few years back all the residents on the estate I live in received a glossy card through the letterbox stating that in the interests of community spirit we would all be receiving a vist from either a policeman to do a free security check or a fireman to do a free safety check on our properties , no sign of firemen but for an entire week we had every dibble within a 10 mile radius knock on every single front door on the estate enquiring if there was anything the residents thought suspicious or wanted investigating! Shortly afterwards there were a series of raids on properties and quite a few people busted for serving up, an undercover in the open grass up your neighbours campaign if ever there was one !
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:04 PM

Yes they do, it's in your tenancy agreement but they have to give you notice first and can't just turn up unannounced


Doesn't matter what is in your tenancy, you can refuse entry to your home, period. Read up on your rights.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:12 PM

That changes things somewhat if a Landlord get prosecuted for not detecting ganja growers at their rental, suddenly you have another factor to calculate in. :angry:


There is no *obligation* on a landlord to monitor the activities of his tenants. In fact most landlords *really* would rather not know.

This sounds like the police trying to make up the law as they go along. It's a shame some judge doesn't bitchslap them in public - it would be for their own good - otherwise they'll look like complete idiots in court.

Of course if the government wanted to change the law, so that a landlord[1] is responsible for their tenants - even if they were unaware - then I am sure there will be no negative effect on the UK housing crisis.

[1]Be interesting if the landlord is a council, or housing association ...
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:17 PM

All non-sence and scaremongering. They know everyone is growing and there is naff all they can do about it.

All they can do is scare people. And this is nothing more than a scare tactic.


A Landlord COULD get done if he had knowledge of it. But proving knowledge is absolutely impossible.



Nothing to see here. Continue growing gentlemen. :trumpet:

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:28 PM

A Landlord COULD get done if he had knowledge of it. But proving knowledge is absolutely impossible.


not necessarily. If the police had surveillance which showed a landlord going into a tenants house several times a week (for example), and when they busted the grow, they discovered it was in the hall - then it would be very hard to argue you knew nothing about it, and hence the accusation that you were involved is harder to shake.

However, as I said earlier, this is all theatre. Do you really think any government - and a Tory one at that - would actually do anything that might cause a house price slump ?
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:51 PM

Yeah I understand Jimmy so I stand corrected on that one. But your example implies that the landlord was pretty much in on it.

I think they're implying that landlords will go down if tenants use their properties for illegal activity with their knowledge or not. Which is absolute claptrap. Thats like a car hire company getting points from their customers speeding in the vehicles they rent out.

You hit the nail on the head - all theatre.

All they can do is scare people enough to stop them making the initial decision to buy a lamp and get going.

Its a shit tactic - but sadly it does work.

I remember my first grow about 11 or 12 years ago. A kit bought from Basement Lighting (remember them?). It was terrifying. By my third or fourth grow - I'd forgot i was even doing anything illegal. By my 10th grow I was MUCH more concerned about being robbed than being busted.

Fear is a powerful tool.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:01 PM

They don't even have the right to enter the property without a court order.



Doesn't matter what is in your tenancy, you can refuse entry to your home, period. Read up on your rights.


As much as I'd like it to be true, It isnt.

Landlord's have a legal right to access their private rented Property, But they do have to give 24 hours notice* ,Never been in a Council property so don't know about them.

* Unless they suspect there's an Emergency, Gas leak etc. Then they have immediate access.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

Yeah - I always found a way around that one.

My contract stated that I couldnt change the locks. But it didnt say anything about adding additional locks.


I just said I was concerned that previous tenants still had they keys - which they did. I spun them a yarn about how I ws robbed in those circumstances before and my family were threatened. Its a hard one for a landlord to argue.

Just add another lock and plead ignorance. If you're called up on it - then you know your landlord / agent have tried to enter without notice - at least then you know what you're dealing with and you can get out of there and look for somewhere else.

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