[philly]

Ok looking for a little help.
Have just made up a batch of bho[3 gramms].
Now I have put this into 15 gramms of hemp oil[good oil].
This was then put in the airing cupboard on the zone valve. The temps around 35c. It has blended real well.
Now the question is do I need to heat this any more[decarbrolate]or should i just leave it in the airing cupboard for a few days?
Hope someone can help.
Philly.

[jason24msc]

I found this,

http://www.freepaten...om/7344736.html

Of particular interest are the parts where it says:

"The decarboxylation procedure is generally carried out within the preparation of the starting material or botanical raw material (BRM), prior to the initiation of the extraction process." and "The heating was performed in an oven with forced air circulation."

It also says:

"Therefore laboratory studies demonstrate the optimum conditions for the decarboxylation of: Chemovar producing primarily THC to minimise CBN formation, is 1 to 2 hours at 105° C. or 1 hour at 120° C."

I Think that putting the extract into oil stops the plant extract from being exposed to the air, which is a vital part of the decarboxylation process at whatever temperature it will work at. The reason is because decarboxylation requires oxygen(O₂) to break the COOH group on THCA into CO₂ and H₂O. Oil tends to form protective bubbles around smaller molecules, oil molecules are long and can stick together and are generally unreactive.

This post has been edited by jason24msc: 19 May 2012 - 11:43 AM

[Graywolf]

It needs to be decarboxylated to be orally active.

I would put it in a pot of 250F oil until the small bubbles suddenly drop off, which is about the 70% decarboxylation point. See attached, courtesy of Jump.

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[jason24msc]

Graywolf, on 19 May 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

It needs to be decarboxylated to be orally active.

I would put it in a pot of 250F oil until the small bubbles suddenly drop off, which is about the 70% decarboxylation point. See attached, courtesy of Jump.

I'm sure this is the graph you mean Graywolf.. http://greenirie.com...boxylation2.gif

This post has been edited by jason24msc: 19 May 2012 - 12:12 PM

[philly]

Ok guys thanks for the replys.
But I don't understand any of it. Sorry.

Ok so I did a butane extraction. The extract I got was frozen.
I put the frozen lump 3 gramms in the hemp seed oil 15 gramms. This has been sat in the airing cupboard for three days.[temps 35-40c].

Now can this mix still be decobrolated? Or is it already?

Was I supposedto heat the extract 1st.
Philly.

[philly]

Ok. Bin havin a read around the net.
It seems that good cured bud. Which I have used[10 week cure]should be well decarbrolated already.
Any thoughts on this.
Oh by the way. The infusion I have made is for the treatment of a skin condition I can't get rid of.
I have put some of the oil I have made in a small tincture bottle.
This I stood in a small glass placed in a pan of water. I left this to simmer[small bubbles did come to the top.
Philly

[Graywolf]

jason24msc, on 19 May 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Graywolf, on 19 May 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

It needs to be decarboxylated to be orally active.

I would put it in a pot of 250F oil until the small bubbles suddenly drop off, which is about the 70% decarboxylation point. See attached, courtesy of Jump.

I'm sure this is the graph you mean Graywolf.. http://greenirie.com...boxylation2.gif

Nice graph bro! Here is another one!

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[Graywolf]

philly, on 19 May 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

Ok guys thanks for the replys.
But I don't understand any of it. Sorry.

Ok so I did a butane extraction. The extract I got was frozen.
I put the frozen lump 3 gramms in the hemp seed oil 15 gramms. This has been sat in the airing cupboard for three days.[temps 35-40c].

Now can this mix still be decobrolated? Or is it already?

Was I supposedto heat the extract 1st.
Philly.

If you will heat it to 82C/180F,it will readily mix together.

It in unlikely that it is fully decarboxylated at 10 weeks. If you stick it in a 121C/250F hot oil bath until the CO2 bubbles suddenly break off, you will be at the peak of the 70% curves shown on the previous graph. When it is bubble free, it is fully decarboxylated.

[philly]

Thanks for the graph graywolf.
I did stand my pot of oil in a sause pan of heavy simmering water.
I did see bubbles. I heated until they stopped.
This took around 45 mins.
Hopefully this has worked.
Philly.

[Freda Weed]

Graywolf, on 19 May 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

It needs to be decarboxylated to be orally active.

But it will have bonded with the fat molucules in the hemp seed oil by now, that will make it orally active also.

Sounds like you did good OP, but maybe could have done with a little more purging (freezing heating etc) to get rid of any miniscule chemical residue.

You can just heat it on a pan over a low heat for a while to get rid of anything thats left but you dont really need to worry that much. Heating to a given point that graywolf may have mentioned will decarboxilate it by cooking but how do you measure that in a frying pan. Too hot and you might lose some?

I'd just err on the side of caution, heat through on the lowest heat you can for a decent time just in case, and enjoy.

It will still blow your doors off and or have the medical benefit you are looking for.

Peace

Freda

[Mark30g]

philly, on 19 May 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

Ok looking for a little help.
Have just made up a batch of bho[3 gramms].
Now I have put this into 15 gramms of hemp oil[good oil].
This was then put in the airing cupboard on the zone valve. The temps around 35c. It has blended real well.
Now the question is do I need to heat this any more[decarbrolate]or should i just leave it in the airing cupboard for a few days?
Hope someone can help.
Philly.

Hey Philly, I would have a clue m8 but i would imagine that airing it should be fine and if left for a few day my thoughts would be that it would cure it some more making it smoother. Bit like i said earlier i am not familiar on how to make it but will be learning as id love to try to make it even just to say yes i tried it and if it works ill make more . Here is http://cannabisni.co...by-rick-simpson a link and if not just Google curing hemp oil. Hope it helps and the other thing i was going to say is how much weed you had to use to get the 3gs of bho. Thanks dude keep em green