[adarkplace]

Hi, I have been through a world of shit over the last few years and a few days ago i was diagnosed with BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER.

Does anyone have any experience of this, either directly or indirectly, how do you cope etc, and also do you have any experience with meds and cannabis to help with the symptoms.

Any help and experience on this is really appreciated.
ADP.

This post has been edited by adarkplace: 07 May 2012 - 04:40 PM

[dodgee5]

My wife has borderline personality disorder. She takes several meds to help treat the symptoms.

She also smokes cannabis daily. I firmly believe it helps her no ends.

Your extremely lucky to even get a diagnosis in this country, in the US, BPD is far more recognised and accepted.

She's busy with kids at the mo but as soon as i get a chance to speak to her about it i will pm you some sites/links that would be worth you looking at.

Atb Dodgee

[them]

adarkplace, on 07 May 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Hi, I have been through a world of shit over the last few years and a few days ago i was diagnosed with BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER.

Does anyone have any experience of this, either directly or indirectly, how do you cope etc, and also do you have any experience with meds and cannabis to help with the symptoms.

Any help and experience on this is really appreciated.
ADP.

It's your personality and if you feel that there are aspects you would like to see improved in the future then change your focus and take control of the ride

Remember not to forget that.

Are you in the UK? If so I may have a worthy contact for you.

[wildbill]

I used to use a website called bpdfamily dot com to try & understand about personality disorders. Thought it was pretty good tbh, especially the message boards.

Hope it is of some help.

This post has been edited by b.wild: 07 May 2012 - 05:48 PM

[Fat Charlie]

Yeah my mum has BPD. I suspect I've got it too.

I think the term is far too broad. I'm inclined to think a lot of people with MH issues get labelled with this because the shrinks don't have the recources or time, or inclination, to accurately pinpoint peoples' problems, so they throw their hands up and diagnose BPD.

So much of psychiatry just seems like inspired guesswork to me.

Who in this world isn't a bit twisted and fucked up?

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) can work wonders, it's essentially examining your patterns of thought and confronting them, training your brain to recognise and question cycles of negativity.

You have to work at it, it can be fucking hard to break down thought habits you've been stuck in your whole life, but it really does work.

[M.M]

Mad as a hat me,

[LemonValleyKush]

I will be honest and i mean no disrespect to you man, but i feel psychiatrists are all too quick to diagnose mental health disorders and put these people on meds, unfortunately the meds they supply are in fact dangerous and in my opinion should be avoided, here is a little documentary that you might find interesting about Pharma, it is called "Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging"



I'd recommend lots of exercise and a healthy diet. If you feel no improvement from doing that then research for natural alternatives. All the best though mate and stay strong.

-LemonValleyKush-

[Eddiesilence]

LemonValleyKush, on 08 May 2012 - 02:30 AM, said:

I will be honest and i mean no disrespect to you man, but i feel psychiatrists are all too quick to diagnose mental health disorders and put these people on meds, unfortunately the meds they supply are in fact dangerous and in my opinion should be avoided, here is a little documentary that you might find interesting about Pharma, it is called "Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging"

With respect Lem, that video isn't information, it's scientology propaganda.

e2a: Psychology and psychiatry aren't a hoax, psychiatric illnesses aren't fictitious, and many psychiatric drugs aren't only effective, but they can also save lives. Scientology denies all of these facts, and instead promotes the idea that all mental illnesses are myths; adding that the real solution to people acting them out is an extremely expensive course of scientology processing.

It's a better idea to find out what psychology is from another source than a pseudo-therapy scam-cult like scientology; but suffice it to say that I suffer from very real depression. Without my antidepressants I'd be several feet deeper than I am right now, whether there's a big pharma conspiracy or not.

This post has been edited by Eddiesilence: 08 May 2012 - 02:47 AM

[LemonValleyKush]

Sorry to hear that man, and i'm certainly no scientologist but i just use the concept of nature, everyone gets depressed from time to time and i believe if you can't seem to feel happier it may be to do more with diet and environment that brain chemistry, as i say im not in any way a scientologist and have no idea what they stand for but it's common knowledge that big pharma companies repackage the same chemical under a different brand name and say it is for a different ailment, also a fair share of the drugs they pump out have been questioned by the FDA and have had their research performed by the drug company themselves rather than the FDA.

Fun fact for you, the 3rd killer in the USA is medication (one of many sources http://www.lifechiro...trogenesis.html) . It makes perfect sense to me, i had a girlfriend who suffered from "serotonin imbalance" of course they can't prove that, they can't say look "here there is not enough serotonin and here there is too much". Anyway she depended on these drugs and if she didn't take one for a day she would go nuts! but with a bit of persuasion i asked her to quit for a week and replace with generous amounts of exercise and a healthy diet, needless to say by the end of the week she was feeling much better and felt less urge to take these drugs, as far as i know she has never gone back and always said she felt miles better for it.

I'm not here trying to knock you and say your faking it, im here to say there are far better ways to treat these depressive states, you are who you are, but if you do feel down all the time, eat lots of vegetables, work out in any free time and find hobbies you can focus your energy on. I hope this clears up what i meant in my original post.

-LVK-

This post has been edited by LemonValleyKush: 08 May 2012 - 03:30 AM

[Eddiesilence]

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Fun fact for you, the 3rd killer in the USA is medication (one of many sources http://www.lifechiro...trogenesis.html) .

Firstly, that's not true. The 3rd killer in the US is 'chronic lower respiratory diseases'. (CDC, 2010 'Leading Causes of Death' www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm)

Secondly, you're evidencing a claim with a link to a chiropractic site. That's a bit reckless, in light of the Quackometer's verdict:

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This web site has more quackery than my village pond. It is full of scientific jargon that is out of place and probably doesn't know the meaning of any of the terms. It shows little or no critical thought and so should be treated with caution!

www.quackometer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifechiropractic.co.uk%2F

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I'm not here trying to knock you and say your faking it, im here to say there are far better ways to treat these depressive states, you are who you are, but if you do feel down all the time, eat lots of vegetables, work out in any free time and find hobbies you can focus your energy on.

Given that you're advising me on how to deal with clinical depression, I have to ask what qualifications and credentials permit you to give out psychotherapeutic advice in respect of diagnosed conditions?

Lemon, I hate to say that you're getting a bunch of nonsense from those scientologists and chiropractors. I'd recommend you becoming scientifically literate, because that will give you the tools to spot these fraudsters for what they are.

This post has been edited by Eddiesilence: 08 May 2012 - 03:53 AM

[LemonValleyKush]

I'm just giving my two cents man, and i have no qualifications, just experience with friends and girlfriends. I noticed they don't mention medical deaths anywhere on that link you sent me, and yet you see celebs dying left right and center from prescribed anti depressants, muscle relaxers and anti-psychotics. I am very scientifically minded but i also follow my instinct and my instinct tells me pumping synthetic pharmaceuticals into your body on a daily basis can not be healthy. Can i ask did you ever try improving your diet and increasing exercise, maybe reducing stressful situations where possible before you started taking these drugs? i'm genuinely interested because i feel this is a step a lot of people miss and just start taking all these prescriptions.

If you could explain to me the science behind anti-depressants im all ears and ready to learn, i've had a look myself but it seems there is little info out there. here is the best i could find Placebo vs Pharma
It comes to the conclusion that there is no black and white answer, and that placebo's were only slightly less effective than the real drug, now in my opinion why not just give the placebo and reduce the risks of side effects and possible fatal situations. Of course when you build a tolerance to the synthetic drugs they are giving you, what happens? thats right they up your dose, until you are ingesting dangerous amounts of synthetic material. All in all as i explained, from experience i have seen a great improvement in friends when they come off the drug or just choose to put themselves in a better environment with a healthier diet. I don't think either of us are right but if i myself were in that situation i'd exhaust every other option before resorting to lab made synthetics.

This post has been edited by LemonValleyKush: 08 May 2012 - 04:20 AM

[LemonValleyKush]

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Given that you're advising me on how to deal with clinical depression, I have to ask what qualifications and credentials permit you to give out psychotherapeutic advice in respect of diagnosed conditions?


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I'd just like to point you to the top of this page where he says any advice is welcome. i'm not telling him to do anything nor am i asking him to believe anything, it's up to his own judgement at the end of the day, and me providing him with experiences and things that worked well for my friends and family is a form of advice that can be taken however you like. The video just shows the number of people taking these pharmacueticals, and yet the demand for them is going up not down? surely if they are healing people you wouldn't need to take them daily and increase dosage to dangerous levels, that seems counterproductive to me, again i'm not saying they don't work, im just saying there are probably better more natural alternatives and they should be explored before relying on a drug to make you feel normal.

[Irrelevant]

Hi there.
I havent been diagnosed Bordeline, but ADHD and Bipolar II ( rapid cycling) instead.

The thing that helps me most : I asked my best mates and my girlfriend to tell me if I behave any differently.
This feedback is mybest help. I for one thing know I can be a bit moody or manic at times. I allow others to tell me so , this way i can take my steps: roll a cone, listen to some music or eat a bit to calm me down.
Meditation has been another great help.

Smoking cones only takes off the edge : it doesnt change my personality permanently.

[nibblebit]

Eddie is right to point out inaccuracies and bad sources of information, but Lemon's general direction has some truth too, many people abuse prescription drugs, ALL prescription drugs have side-effects, lots of side-effects.

There are also plenty of people on medication who have no problems at all, side-effects are, after all, only possibilities.

If i were you adarkplace, i would just try it and see. You are your best yardstick as far as judging whether or not taking a particular drug makes your life-quality better or worse.

You don't need our advice.

I was diagnosed with a mental psyndrome a while back and agreed to take Prozac. At first it made me happy, manically happy ! Then the positive effects lessened and the negative ones grew.

So last year i decided to dump it and use weed on a regular basis, because my condition and current life-stresses work together to cause physical symptoms as well.

For me it was a good thing to do, to dump the prescription drugs.

But i still value the meetings with my Psychiatrist


nibs.

[THC4METOO]

My missus has had BPD for a few years, after being told it was bi-polar II for several years previous to that (rapid cycling). She's spent time in clinics, and one of the best things she did during those times was exercise. It makes you feel better about yourself and takes your mind off things, but it was never going to fix her.

She spent years not wanting to take any medication but even with CBT and group meetings it just wasn't enough and she succumbed to taking mood stabilisers. Sometimes they make her a bit flat but it seems as if that's better than the manic ups and dark and deadly downs.

Smoking weed daily definitely helps her, but I doubt it would ever replace medication.

All the best with it fella, keep us informed.